CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #12

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  • #601
He can't prevent LE from entering quickly... with him or without him will not change what is there or what they will see. Even if he gets there and is with them... he can't hide or move anything. So I am thinking it didn't work.

Most Law Enforcement Officers these days, have body cameras that are activated as soon as they get to a call. So everything the officer saw and said in addition to Nicole and him, is going to be on audio and visual if they were in the scene. In my opinion.
 
  • #602
He can't prevent LE from entering quickly... with him or without him will not change what is there or what they will see. Even if he gets there and is with them... he can't hide or move anything. So I am thinking it didn't work.

Most Law Enforcement Officers these days, have body cameras that are activated as soon as they get to a call. So everything the officer saw and said in addition to Nicole and him, is going to be on audio and visual if they were in the scene. In my opinion.
 
  • #603
I think the opposite happened. I think she was the one to witness him strangling her daughters. I believe he waited until she came home to strangle the kids in front of her to have her feeling helpless and not in control and him the one in control. Her daughters were her life. There is no way she would do anything to hurt them. I also believe she tried to fight him off the daughters. He then strangled her. Moo
Yes. That's why he hid her phone in the seat cushions.
 
  • #604
I'm about to do what I hate seeing others do-post a link when it's probably already been discussed. Has anyone mentioned this article that came out this evening? I'm very slowly catching up on today's posts but I have a dozen or more pages to go.


"“There is absolutely no evidence that she killed her children,” the source tells PEOPLE in this week’s issue. “None at all. And there is physical evidence to tie him to their murders. Strangulation is a very personal way to kill someone, with a lot of physical contact. Just based on the preliminary evidence, everything is consistent with him killing them all.”"

'Absolutely No Evidence' Shan'ann Watts Killed Her Daughters: Police Source
Wondering if it is stomach content myself . It could prove they died before she was home thus eliminating her as a suspect .
 
  • #605
I'm going to go out on a ledge here and say that by "thing", they meant story and not referencing the person as a "thing.". As in, "Did this gay or bi story just come out?" I'll give the poster the benefit of the doubt. It made me pause, too, though.

Yes, I edited my initial post after re-reading.
 
  • #606
Yeah I find it interesting how much he was all over SM about it then goes incognito on TV.

Do we know this is the same guy who was drawing attention to himself on SM? I'm wondering, as at least the way AB presented it, they were protecting this guy's identity, as if he didn't want anyone to know who he was. Not that I consider AB to be a real journalist. It's all about sensationalism, ratings and advertising dollars, IMO.

IDK. Sometimes where there's smoke, there's fire. LE only stated he was involved in an active affair. They didn't say if AP was male or female.
 
  • #607
Maybe if he was all over SM he could have been one of our posters here in this thread as well, who has recently gone quiet....
These high profile cases unfortunately, ring the dinner bell for the squirrels & all you get are nuts!
 
  • #608
I just can’t get the picture of him hugging himself out of my mind. Such a weird, insecure gesture. Could he be schizophrenic or something? Although I guess insecurity can be a big motivator for multiple affairs. But multiple people aren’t often attracted to someone who is super insecure...are they?
Good question. I just don't know, for sure. It may attract other insecure people? Maybe?
 
  • #609
The original point was if it’s normal for husbands not to attend maternity appointments :)

Lol - on the shame!
My husband came when I was having an ultrasound & things of that nature, but he didn’t go to every one. Not that he didn’t care or I didn’t want him there it’s just hard with work, kids.... you know just living life. :)
 
  • #610
HLN "alleged lover" story matches story recently posted on SM nearly to the last detail.

I am trying to wrap my head around the whole thing.

If its just a freaky person trying to get their rocks off by getting involved in this huge high profile case then I suppose they are getting what they wanted to some extent.

But they take a great risk in doing so... because undoubtedly if HLN could get in touch so could the police.

I would tend to think that someone who really had an affair with CW at this point would lawyer up and follow the lawyer's advice..
 
  • #611
(O/T, Interesting how similar discussions come up in different threads..referring to A and L)
Yet C.W. talks in a video of taking off the day of & day after the Metallica concert..... he missed the 1st ultrasound for # 3 also... hmmm it’s almost like he didn’t want anothet kid.
 
  • #612
My husband just brought up an interesting idea, was CW having problems at work? Maybe even close to being fired? That would definitely cause some pressure.

Not an excuse for killing his family, but an important part of the puzzle, potentially.
 
  • #613
I'm about to do what I hate seeing others do-post a link when it's probably already been discussed. Has anyone mentioned this article that came out this evening? I'm very slowly catching up on today's posts but I have a dozen or more pages to go.


"“There is absolutely no evidence that she killed her children,” the source tells PEOPLE in this week’s issue. “None at all. And there is physical evidence to tie him to their murders. Strangulation is a very personal way to kill someone, with a lot of physical contact. Just based on the preliminary evidence, everything is consistent with him killing them all.”"

'Absolutely No Evidence' Shan'ann Watts Killed Her Daughters: Police Source
It was quite a relief to read this and to understand That law enforcement has physical evidence showing Chris Watts is responsible for these murders.
 
  • #614
I'm about to do what I hate seeing others do-post a link when it's probably already been discussed. Has anyone mentioned this article that came out this evening? I'm very slowly catching up on today's posts but I have a dozen or more pages to go.


"“There is absolutely no evidence that she killed her children,” the source tells PEOPLE in this week’s issue. “None at all. And there is physical evidence to tie him to their murders. Strangulation is a very personal way to kill someone, with a lot of physical contact. Just based on the preliminary evidence, everything is consistent with him killing them all.”"

'Absolutely No Evidence' Shan'ann Watts Killed Her Daughters: Police Source

Do we know that the girls were strangled? I've not seen that mentioned other than his claim he saw SW strangling one of them.
 
  • #615
Interesting. NU had a key??

Yep! Or knew where a key was hidden by the front door? Both ways, interesting. That must have been a very good friend.
 
  • #616
HLN "alleged lover" story matches story recently posted on SM nearly to the last detail.

I am trying to wrap my head around the whole thing.

If its just a freaky person trying to get their rocks off by getting involved in this huge high profile case then I suppose they are getting what they wanted to some extent.

But they take a great risk in doing so... because undoubtedly if HLN could get in touch so could the police.

I would tend to think that someone who really had an affair with CW at this point would lawyer up and follow the lawyer's advice..
HLN "alleged lover" story matches story recently posted on SM nearly to the last detail.

I am trying to wrap my head around the whole thing.

If its just a freaky person trying to get their rocks off by getting involved in this huge high profile case then I suppose they are getting what they wanted to some extent.

But they take a great risk in doing so... because undoubtedly if HLN could get in touch so could the police.

I would tend to think that someone who really had an affair with CW at this point would lawyer up and follow the lawyer's advice..
 
  • #617
HLN "alleged lover" story matches story recently posted on SM nearly to the last detail.

I am trying to wrap my head around the whole thing.

If its just a freaky person trying to get their rocks off by getting involved in this huge high profile case then I suppose they are getting what they wanted to some extent.

But they take a great risk in doing so... because undoubtedly if HLN could get in touch so could the police.

I would tend to think that someone who really had an affair with CW at this point would lawyer up and follow the lawyer's advice..
I don’t think this guy’s elevator reaches the top floor.
 
  • #618
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HLN "alleged lover" story matches story recently posted on SM nearly to the last detail.

I am trying to wrap my head around the whole thing.

If its just a freaky person trying to get their rocks off by getting involved in this huge high profile case then I suppose they are getting what they wanted to some extent.

But they take a great risk in doing so... because undoubtedly if HLN could get in touch so could the police.

I would tend to think that someone who really had an affair with CW at this point would lawyer up and follow the lawyer's advice..
 
  • #620
Yes, I know all that. Thanks. I was stating it really didn't matter how they got in... nothing would be able to be changed/moved/etc.

Think about this too... he says garage door control broken. How did he leave the house that morning and shut it? The back door... think cameras will prove otherwise?

Yes, Axom body camera of police in addition to doorbell and neighbors...
 
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