CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #12

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I have no idea why I just got the thought to look up the stock price. But I did. your comment made me think what has this done to their stock price.

Sorry if this has already been asked and answered ( am going backwards thru the thread)

Have you looked at the MLM stocks at all? Would be interested.
 
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Male AP says he is "good friends" with JLR (Jonathan Lee Riches) on SM. So I think we can file this away as he's full of pewp.
 
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Male AP says he is "good friends" with JLR (Jonathan Lee Riches) on SM. So I think we can file this away as he's full of pewp.
The ex-prisoner, lawsuit dude?
 
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If this was the case though wouldn't they tell him not to be screaming about the affair all over SM and not going on TV to talk about it? We haven't heard a peep from the AP that is a co-worker and im guessing that's probably why.
IMO
Also because law enforcement would advise a person that came forward probably not to at this point . All potential witnesses have become silent .
 
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I appreciate everyone hanging in there with me. After looking at all the facts, it’s clear to me that he killed them all, likely the girls before she returned home.

Has your account been hacked Dadvocate? :D
 
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This thread has so many twists & turns I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. LOL
 
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If this was the case though wouldn't they tell him not to be screaming about the affair all over SM and not going on TV to talk about it? We haven't heard a peep from the AP that is a co-worker and im guessing that's probably why.
I don't know but the actual evidence would be the data on the phone. My friends case has not gone to court yet and several of us know but we do not know where the photos were taken and when and why she took them.
When he was arrested she remembered seeing him and looked through her photos but she had told a few people that she thought she had him on her phone, before she contacted police.
 
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IMO
Also because law enforcement would advise a person that came forward probably not to at this point . All potential witnesses have become silent .
True, but what about the neighbours?
 
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You have been completely dug in since the beginning, i am very surprised. What changed your mind? Just taking a step back and looking at all the facts again?

Yes. I’m a father of three girls and I could never imagine hurting them. I wanted to believe CW didn’t hurt them. But I can’t anymore.
 
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What changed your mind?
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I appreciate everyone hanging in there with me. After looking at all the facts, it’s clear to me that he killed them all, likely the girls before she returned home.

Look, I don't know if you were really playing the devil's advocate game, as you suggested early on when you apologized for "ruffling feathers" or if you're just messing with us now, but I find your actions highly inappropriate and disrespectful. Not trying to be rude, just honest.

The problem is that you were so far "out there", using proof like "her eyes" and stuff for your "defense." There is a REAL conversation about his guilt (or lack thereof) to be had here. I usually hover on the fence myself until the trial rolls around. There is a slight chance(and when I say slight, I mean slenderman versus a sumo wrestler) that his story is true. Stranger things have happened. I truly DO believe in the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing. Because of that, I think we truly could have had an intelligent conversation here about his defense and what "might" have occurred. I like playing devil's advocate as well and looking at things from both sides of the crime. I think we should all do that from time to time because things aren't always as they seem.

There's a way of doing that without being disrespectful, however. So many people got to where they were using the "ignore" button that it was becoming difficult to have a conversation with anyone. I, personally, got to the point where arguments were becoming so outlandish and backed by zero logic that I couldn't even seriously entertain the idea of him being anything but guilty-and that's not good. We really DO need to look not only at this case but ALL cases with unemotional eyes. (Which, I know, is nearly impossible to do when children's deaths are at hand.)

Boards where everyone agrees are boring because they become echo chambers. But unlike many crime TV shows out there, this isn't entertainment; these are real people's lives. :-( Real children died in this story-we're not going to see them next week on a CSI rerun.

I really want to be respectful of everyone's opinions and ideas. I'm not telling anyone how to post. If you're here for an actual dialoug about this case, though, IMO there's a certain amount of seriousness and respect that we have to pay not only each other but the actual victims and the peripheral victims themselves.
 
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You got it.
Well, I was actually going to watch the HLN video until you told me that! Glad you saved me some time. I only caught the very end of it before he hung up. :rolleyes:

This thread has so many twists & turns I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. LOL
I was just thinking the same.
 
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Look, I don't know if you were really playing the devil's advocate game, as you suggested early on when you apologized for "ruffling feathers" or if you're just messing with us now, but I find your actions highly inappropriate and disrespectful. Not trying to be rude, just honest.

The problem is that you were so far "out there", using proof like "her eyes" and stuff for your "defense." There is a REAL conversation about his guilt (or lack thereof) to be had here. I usually hover on the fence myself until the trial rolls around. There is a slight chance(and when I say slight, I mean slenderman versus a sumo wrestler) that his story is true. Stranger things have happened. I truly DO believe in the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing. Because of that, I think we truly could have had an intelligent conversation here about his defense and what "might" have occurred. I like playing devil's advocate as well and looking at things from both sides of the crime. I think we should all do that from time to time because things aren't always as they seem.

There's a way of doing that without being disrespectful, however. So many people got to where they were using the "ignore" button that it was becoming difficult to have a conversation with anyone. I, personally, got to the point where arguments were becoming so outlandish and backed by zero logic that I couldn't even seriously entertain the idea of him being anything but guilty-and that's not good. We really DO need to look not only at this case but ALL cases with unemotional eyes. (Which, I know, is nearly impossible to do when children's deaths are at hand.)

Boards where everyone agrees are boring because they become echo chambers. But unlike many crime TV shows out there, this isn't entertainment; these are real people's lives. :-( Real children died in this story-we're not going to see them next week on a CSI rerun.

I really want to be respectful of everyone's opinions and ideas. I'm not telling anyone how to post. If you're here for an actual dialoug about this case, though, IMO there's a certain amount of seriousness and respect that we have to pay not only each other but the actual victims and the peripheral victims themselves.
 

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I’m thinking, if CW did, indeed, have an active dating app life, that certainly would provide an explanation for deleting his FB account, He wouldn’t want any potential suitors to see his family life as presented on Shanann’s FB page. It would also provide insight into his frame of mind and motive. Anybody have any dating apps who can search him out? That would be interesting.
 
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I appreciate everyone hanging in there with me. After looking at all the facts, it’s clear to me that he killed them all, likely the girls before she returned home.
Who are you and what have you done to DAdvocate?
 
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