CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #13

[KALI]

I lost all respect for this woman And her Mother many, many moons ago.
What I see with the two of them is $$$ signs in their motives and actions.
I do give them credit for passing their bar degrees- however what they have both chosen to do with their lives, from what I see, makes me ill.
That's all.

She keeps saying OMG that is SO SAD when the girls were on the bed with Chris singing Christmas carols. SO SAD. So she says OK let's watch it again.

 

[Jennifer17]

In front of other health care professionals doesn’t bother me since I know they can likely access my records anyway. But I don’t think it’s cool for a doctor to discuss patients tests results around other patients.

Nurses can only access medical records that have to do with the patients under their care and if the records have any bearing on that care.
These doctors were discussing cases from their private practices which we would not have or should have any access to.
I remember one where they were discussing an allegation of sexual abuse, names and all.

 

[bears10]

Nurses can only access medical records that have to do with the patients under their care and if the records have any bearing on that care.
These doctors were discussing cases from their private practices which we would not have or should have any access to.
I remember one where they were discussing an allegation of sexual abuse, names and all.

Right and I wouldn’t care if my nurses accessed my medical records. Which is what I meant by healthcare professionals. I would care if they talked about it loudly enough for strangers to hear. We have privacy laws for a reason. I’m sorry you were around such unethical doctors.

 

[LeeAnnB]

The photo on that instagram account showing all the clothes WITH THE TAGS STILL ON THEM!! I've seen that in two people who were manic at the time, and buying everything, and I've seen it with a hoarder.

These are clothes that are for sale.

 

[Jacquie1]

Me too.

Before 2016!

 

[glassheater]

My mother in law, an aunt by marriage, a childhood friend and a couple opposing parties. It's a very rare condition according to a psychologist I spoke to about it so the fact that I have so many people in my life with it is unusual.

It's horrific. Gaslighting. "I never did or said that." It's ALWAYS everyone else's fault. Alternately idoiolizing and then totally hating the same person. Constant rages. Paranoia. Extreme selfishness. Inability to maintain any relationship of any kind. The boundary crossing is intense.

Having a beautiful closet is not a symptom. But that disorder is so horrible, it's not something to lightly diagnose a murder victim with when there is zero indication.

BPD usually comes from being very emotionally neglected and/or seriously abused. ALL the people I know with it had parents who were either absent or showed them no love. It's very, very sad.

It's a curse to them and not their fault but people with this condition are some of the most unpleasant, horrible people be around.

They have an incredible fear of abandonment but they are so horrible that invariably they end up alone.

It's caused a lot of pain in my life having to deal with it. I had to step in and help raise my brother in laws as a result. Despite our intervention and efforts to help the kids, all three ended up with serious problems and an inability to cope with life because their mother is so completely insane. She destroyed them.

I feel for you, Gitana. My Mom had this condition and ultimately died young from suicide ( also a common result from this condition). It’s not easy and I think I’ll always have issues to deal with because of dealing with her. She really did live a tortured life trapped in her own mind, and we lived a tortured existence with her.

 

[HammyG]

Does it give a date she registered ?

Not that I can tell. Just that there's 6 months to go. "Arrival date February 1, 2019"

Amazon: Baby Registry

 

[Karinna]

Yes, she doesn't appear as "up" as in most pics of her. Still beautiful tho!

I think after watching the video that was posted upthread, Shanann speaks to the positivity and negativity in her life.
I feel she had some sadness in her past and she had since had people in her life that helped her overcome some of the more negative issues she had dealt with. She did repeatedly thank them by name for what they did to help her in that regard, and IMO build up her self esteem to become a more positive person, and to venture into new territory she may have felt ambivalent about before. The "Yes" you can do this type of courage.
A beautiful young woman, trying to do the best she could, as a mother, friend & wife.
And may her beautiful soul and that of her babies rest peacefully.

 

[MCDRAW]

Sure but couldn’t he disable the alerts without her knowing? JMO

Ours is an app that we have on our phones. I'm not sure about other alarms but ours couldn't be disabled without having access to the phone.

 

[Deleted member 117120]

Side note and not too important:
The friends of CW and SW, The Thayers, who did the husband and wife interview in the park, as it turns out his wife was wearing a Lularoe orange shirt in the interview as well. I recognize the pattern and color as I have some Lularoe items myself. So perhaps SW sold Lularoe or vise a versa as is often the case with friends selling to one another.

Update: I checked Lularoe website and could not locate a SW as a retailer so I don't think SW was selling the product. Also googled the two together and nothing came up noteworthy.

 

[Jacquie1]

I wonder when CW got his back tattoo?

The “lover” showed a photo of “C.W.’s back” without a tattoo.
The “lover” says their fling ended last June (2017)

CW had the tattoo prior to August 2016.

Busted!

 

[MyBelle]

My mother in law, an aunt by marriage, a childhood friend and a couple opposing parties. It's a very rare condition according to a psychologist I spoke to about it so the fact that I have so many people in my life with it is unusual.

It's horrific. Gaslighting. "I never did or said that." It's ALWAYS everyone else's fault. Alternately idoiolizing and then totally hating the same person. Constant rages. Paranoia. Extreme selfishness. Inability to maintain any relationship of any kind. The boundary crossing is intense.

Having a beautiful closet is not a symptom. But that disorder is so horrible, it's not something to lightly diagnose a murder victim with when there is zero indication.

BPD usually comes from being very emotionally neglected and/or seriously abused. ALL the people I know with it had parents who were either absent or showed them no love. It's very, very sad.

It's a curse to them and not their fault but people with this condition are some of the most unpleasant, horrible people be around.

They have an incredible fear of abandonment but they are so horrible that invariably they end up alone.

It's caused a lot of pain in my life having to deal with it. I had to step in and help raise my brother in laws as a result. Despite our intervention and efforts to help the kids, all three ended up with serious problems and an inability to cope with life because their mother is so completely insane. She destroyed them.

We've heard nothing about the household where CW grew up. You mention gaslighting and I think that absolutely went on in this household and the one doing it was CW. Was he just repeating the dysfunction in which he was raised or does he have a mental illness. My guess is it could be both. Blaming SW for the girls' murder is just another version of gaslighting.

 

[KALI]

A "Sourse" Has claimed.
We have heard this doodoo from so many "reporters" that we don't even question it anymore. It is put out as fact, and millions buy it. Hook, line and sinker.
In many ways, the Media has all become Rag Papers that we used to laugh at years ago.
For me, backed up investigated facts are what I want to read.

Yeah, and it also says this: “A source close the investigation tells PEOPLE that Chris has had relationships with both men and women outside of his marriage. PEOPLE could not immediately reach the man who spoke to HLN on Wednesday.”

To believe or not to believe, that is the question.

 

[mtnlites]

Before 2016!

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That guy just keeps losing credibility with me. His tattoo is pretty big and it def wasn't there in that tweet.

 

[KathrynL]

Common practice for journalists to trawl SM these days. I and others I know have had press DM us for info & links to profile sites when it's a high profile case.

This is very true, I agree that media leans heavily on SM these days, especially Twitter. I retained my digital subscription to the Denver Post after I left Denver, and many articles are based on quoted tweets from LE, with no other information. I consider it lazy journalism, and not worth a headline or my time. Back in the old days, I took a journalism course in high school. That instructor would be mortified at what passes as journalism now. imo

PS, I'm really behind here. Have to attend to life here and again.

 

[bluesneakers]

That guy just keeps losing credibility with me. His tattoo is pretty big and it def wasn't there in that tweet.

Who tweeted the pic? Do we know for sure it came from his account?

 

[Jennifer17]

A "Sourse" Has claimed.
We have heard this doodoo from so many "reporters" that we don't even question it anymore. It is put out as fact, and millions buy it. Hook, line and sinker.
In many ways, the Media has all become Rag Papers that we used to laugh at years ago.
For me, backed up investigated facts are what I want to read.

Then you could read the affidavit. You could believe the LE charges against him.
Any father who throws his little girls bodies in crude oil vats is fair game.
I would believe anything about him after he desecrated them like that.

 

[Shekkiec]

Can your dad disable on his own your ability to virtually drop in?

He can’t because he doesn’t have the ap device control on his phone . We have his linked to my amazon account . So I have all the device control settings on my amazon fire and enable the drop on from there . I have an I phone so I use the tablet which also can be a mobile camera for him to see me . It’s kinda hard to explain but here is a link How to Use Amazon Alexa’s Drop In Feature

 

[Bluefield]

What’s with people trying to make out that Shanann had issues? Good grief. Everybody has issues. She seems like she was a pretty normal woman, doing the best she can, being the best mom and wife she could, like anyone else.

I realize we are sleuthing on here, but sometimes some of the posts sound more like stalking, almost, with how closely some are scrutinizing the house and stuff.

Don’t come scrutinize my house. I suck at housecleaning, and I have all boys (and a husband) who also suck at housecleaning and two dogs who definitely suck at housecleaning. I’m sure it’s a disorder of some sort. Ha.

Hahaha! Your last paragraph cracked me up! That was great.

 

[MassGuy]

This is very true, I agree that media leans heavily on SM these days, especially Twitter. I retained my digital subscription to the Denver Post after I left Denver, and many articles are based on quoted tweets from LE, with no other information. I consider it lazy journalism, and not worth a headline or my time. Back in the old days, I took a journalism course in high school. That instructor would be mortified at what passes as journalism now. imo

PS, I'm really behind here. Have to attend to life here and again.

With the proliferation of the internet, there are just so many sources of information, that local newspapers are dying.

They can’t compete with the big national organizations, and their content has struggled. They’ve had to cutback on original reporting and source news from wire services.

It hasn’t helped that national news has been replaced by opinion pieces and “talking heads.” It’s not necessarily being “lazy,” rather it is few reporters in which to do actual reporting (on the local level).

It also doesn’t help that with instant news, being first to report something, is a big deal. Unfortunately, this comes at the expense of facts.