CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #17

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I'm way out of touch on paying mortgages, but how can someone get a 400,000$ house for only 8k down? Is that some sort of government deal? ? One of my nephews got into a decent but less expensive house with nothing down, but he is a veteran.

In some counties in Colorado there are non-profit groups that provide downpayment assistance based upon income. This would be another reason CW might apply for the home in his sole name---so SW's income wouldn't be counted for the downpayment assistance.

Essentially, from what I know, the downpayment is added as a sort of second lien on the home, and it has to be repaid back when the house is sold.

Down-Payment Assistance Program | Colorado Housing Assistance Corporation
 
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I wonder if the oil would show indented impressions on the skin. Like would it set and show an indented pattern like hands or rope or belt once you wash most of the excessive oil off first and then let the rest dry.
 
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Ha Merryb, this is interesting. So do you think that SW was aware of CW's AP's BEFORE she got pregnant and tried to get remove AP's with the pregnancy video? If I were an AP and found out the guy I was involved with had lied all along I'd be pretty furious. Maybe this was SW's way of telling the AP's in CW's life to take a hike?

Perhaps. IMO she only knew about the co-worker, as did many others. If all of the other stuff is true, I don’t think she had any idea.
MOO
 
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Wow! I asked my husband and he said the same thing!
This makes me think CW didn't have many male friends. Seems like males can see through his façade.
 
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It had occurred to me that the choking of SW by CW may have been during sex, but I hadn't mentioned it. Wouldn't that be sick if he was aroused by that sort of thing!
He's sick for murdering his pregnant wife and unborn child and we also know he's most likely lying about SW strangling the little girls. So I would NOT put anything past this monster in terms of sexual deviance including cutting off the air supply to a sexual partner. Maybe he got a thrill of out 'pretend' strangulation during sex and used this method to dispose of the wife and kids who stood in his way to his self-gratification. Do we know if he watched a lot of abusive online 🤬🤬🤬🤬? MOOOOOOOO!
 
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This makes me think CW didn't have many male friends. Seems like males can see through his façade.
Yeah, classic lone wolf.
 
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I think this trial is going to be as sensational as the Jodi Arias trial. It will be interesting to see what the computer forensics and blood analysis will reveal.
 
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Can you update us with a summary of anything that is new & corroborated?

So far

They had an attorney on at the beginning who has worked for the CO prosecutors office and she said they are very aggressive and she wouldn't be surprised if they pursue the death penalty.
There might be cameras on the oil tanks.
 
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I think this trial is going to be as sensational as the Jodi Arias trial. It will be interesting to see what the computer forensics and blood analysis will reveal.
That's providing they're allowed to stream it!
 
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I think that something was afoot a week before the murders when he deactivated his Facebook page.

You have to wonder if AP or any friend posted something about the affair.....?
 
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Whilst it's great to have something new, rather than often having to regurgitate the old thread contents, some concerns about this link:
- she didn't mention that she offered her intell to LE when she found out about his crimes;
- why no Tinder profile, chats from her history or other digital record. They could show those even though she wants her ID hidden;
- he "took her out on dates" initially but again, she might have something to corroborate that;
- coincidence re strangulation..... Hmmm;
- very different account from HLN mystery guy re CW's style.

Were any dates given - can't read the RO original link over here
 
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This is the Le-Vel rewards plan:
https://cdn.le-vel.com/en/Documents/RewardsPlan.pdf
Every Brand Promoter can earn 20% on the BV of their personal customers' web orders. As a Qualified & Active Promoter, you will also earn a percentage of the Customer web orders generated by Promoters in your Sponsorship Tree - down an additional 3 Levels - helping to build your residual income. BV from Customer web orders is imported at 50% of Retail Price.
Retail Sales
Retail BV Imported at 50% Amount of Retail BV
Personal Customers 20%
Level 1 Customers 12%
Level 2 Customers 4%
Level 3 Customers 4%
SW was at the 80K VIP (monthly sales) level, so it looks like she would have received team bonuses of 4% for level 4 and 5 sales as well, along with other bonuses.

SW's verified friend isalybra stated in a previous thread that SW was very successful with April sales of about 130K and well on her way to her 200K VIP goal. If I understand the Le-Vel lingo for her commissions correctly, that looks like really good money.

With the booming economy in CO and oil industry recovery, CW was probably getting really good raises and bonuses too since their 2015 bankruptcy.

That's why I'm not convinced that financial strain contributed to his motive. Although it is hard to understand why they would be delinquent on their HOA dues.
 
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They had an attorney on at the beginning who has worked for the CO prosecutors office and she said they are very aggressive and she wouldn't be surprised if they pursue the death penalty.
There might be cameras on the oil tanks.
If there are cameras on the oil tanks its going to help the prosecution.
 
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