CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #18

[Thepoet]

But that was only one of the areas he worked in. Those vats are scattered around everywhere. This one was on a ranch not owned by the company.

LE obviously had reason to believe something bad had happened and CW was involved. That led them to fly drones over certain areas. I believe LE saw/heard something during wellness check and launched an immediate investigation!

But that was only one of the areas he worked in. Those vats are scattered around everywhere. This one was on a ranch not owned by the company.

 

[dgfred]

He should have used those bed sheets in the trash to haul her stuff away too... she could not have just left without her keys/purse/etc no matter his stupid story.

 

[Thepoet]

Good morning,
Someone posted a pic IIRC of a tank camera set up. It was not the tank(s) that CW used.
I looked at the video ago of the fly over of CERVI319 and I do not see an on-site camera. Perhaps someone will find it.
It would be great if the same news station would do a fly over to determine if there is an on-site camera.
I wonder if we will ever know whether the camera (if it is there) was turned off.

Thanks. I've seen several photos and not sure which, if any were the actual tanks. I'm sure it'll come out at the trial.

 

[The Saint]

Can anyone please tell me if there's a way of bookmarking the full Watts forum of threads? I have to go through multiple steps each time I try to see the latest:
WS front page> scroll down to find Watts foremwhich only shows last thread page number< click on last page and then move backwwards from there (having to click on the last page or first page to access the previous threads.

I seem to rememember with the old software, you could see a main forum with all of the thread numbers visible at once.

TIA

 

[Thepoet]

He should have used those bed sheets in the trash to haul her stuff away too... she could not have just left without her keys/purse/etc no matter his stupid story.

What he should have done was use the sheet to hang himself BEFORE he did anything else!

 

[dgfred]

I am still having a hard time figuring out where the doors on those tanks are located. There is a ladder leading to the top... but no doors visable on top. I wonder if the door is on the side a little lower than the top.

 

[Thepoet]

Can anyone please tell me if there's a way of bookmarking the full Watts forum of threads? I have to go through multiple steps each time I try to see the latest:
WS front page> scroll down to find Watts foremwhich only shows last thread page number< click on last page and then move backwwards from there (having to click on the last page or first page to access the previous threads.

I seem to rememember with the old software, you could see a main forum with all of the thread numbers visible at once.

TIA

At the very top, in the masthead, click "new posts". Took me a while to figure that one out. I was doing the same as you,

 

[Thepoet]

I am still having a hard time figuring out where the doors on those tanks are located. There is a ladder leading to the top... but no doors visable on top. I wonder if the door is on the side a little lower than the top.

It's on the top. Looks like a big porthole, if I'm correct. With big bolts on it!

 

[PommyMommy]

Good morning,
Someone posted a pic IIRC of a tank camera set up. It was not the tank(s) that CW used.
I looked at the video ago of the fly over of CERVI319 and I do not see an on-site camera. Perhaps someone will find it.
It would be great if the same news station would do a fly over to determine if there is an on-site camera.
I wonder if we will ever know whether the camera (if it is there) was turned off.

I looked at the CERVI 319 site photos for cameras too. I wasn't able to determine if there were cameras but when I have time, I hope to find some better pictures and check again.

ETA: Good morning to you too!

 

[Thepoet]

I also wonder how they knew to fly a drone over this particular. There are a lot of well sites throughout this part of Colorado; so why this one?
Also, there are a lot of mountains where he could have tossed them.
IMO, LE had to have had something to take them to that well site. I do not feel that it was a random drone fly over.

If you look at the facts and the timeline; LE must have seen/heard something during the wellness check, that made them believe something, bad had happened and CW was responsible. They than began an investigation in ernest! Information from Anadarko, maybe cell phone, would have led them to the approximate area and then they played CW like a Stradivarius!

 

[Davia18]

I looked at the CERVI 319 site photos for cameras too. I wasn't able to determine if there were cameras but when I have time, I hope to find some better pictures and check again.

Wonder what those white signs say. Wonder if says something like no trespassing and that there are cameras.

 

[msphilosopher]

It seems false to me . I obviously know he cheated however there are some people that try to gain attention to themselves by lying in every case. Absolutely zero proof or evidence only hearsay thus far . So I would think no . Give us evidence

I agree, many people falsely insert themselves into cases. Usually two reasons for this.... personal attention or to stir the pot.

Since it appears the article did not name the woman, I'm guessing she wanted to remain anonymous (for obvious reasons). To me, this rules out an personal attention seeker.

Could be someone trying to stir the pot. If it's true, I wish they just contacted LE.

Still wondering IF she testifies IF this could contribute towards evidence of premeditation... doubtful probably.

 

[Thepoet]

Legal eagles; in Colorado, if a plea agreement is reached, will CW have to allocute? I believe it's mandatory in many states. Thanks!

 

[Seattle1]

I wonder what it was that made them so quickly find her body, though.

Immediate cooperation with Anadarko for drone use, and the clandestine grave at the pad site would stand out.

 

[The Saint]

The thread was locked when I saw that
@Jennifer17 asked why CW would have gone downstairs --- he could have gotten water from the bathroom taps.
My asweris that he could have been grabbing something from the fridge or
I think it's possible that the Watts had a bottle water dispenser in the kitchen only.

I don't know how close fracking sites are to their housing tract but there were so many fracking tanks all over by the Roggen ranch tanks where the bodies were found.

Fracking can contaminate water making it dangerous to drink and also flammable.

The couple who videotaped their search for the crime scene tanks stopped at gas station where the toilets were locked. The owner of the gas station said that they were on well water and the toilet water now stunk. He closed down the toilets.

 

[NuttMegg]

Can anyone please tell me if there's a way of bookmarking the full Watts forum of threads? I have to go through multiple steps each time I try to see the latest:
WS front page> scroll down to find Watts foremwhich only shows last thread page number< click on last page and then move backwwards from there (having to click on the last page or first page to access the previous threads.

I seem to rememember with the old software, you could see a main forum with all of the thread numbers visible at once.

TIA

Does this work? CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #18

 

[dgfred]

It's on the top. Looks like a big porthole, if I'm correct. With big bolts on it!

I think there may be more or another one.

 

[The Saint]

Immediate cooperation with Anadarko for drone use, and the clandestine grave at the pad site would stand out.

Speaking of drones... a drone spotted the bed sheet near SW's shallow grave.

If SW were attacked by CW while she was on the bed. It seems like the easiest way to
move her dead body would be to wrap her in the bedsheet. I don't think her body would fit totally in a garbage bag like the little girls.

CW could have used two garbage bags but I think her body would have been wrapped in the sheet first.

It's possibe that wild animals started to dig up SW's body and that's how the sheet got pulled away from her shallow grave.

 

[Seattle1]

The only reason I’m thinking not is why hide the girls in tank to cover scent if you throw her in a shallow grave the scent would be horrendous . Not trying to be disrespectful . We can’t have both arguements. But if he did dig graves then no way oil tanks were to hide scent . So why then are kids in tank ?

I believe the grave was intended to be temporary. CW did not want any of them found. Used the tanks because they were accessible, to destroy evidence, and delay finding decomposed remains. MOO

 

[PommyMommy]

thank you! (I've been reading these forums for weeks, but finally decided to join because I had too many questions!)
I figured it was probably brought up at some time, but possibly a page I missed! Our monitor is 3 years old, has wifi capability and connects the recordings to our phone. Just thinking that with all the other modern conveniences they had, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a fancier monitor that did the same thing!

I don't think we know the model or exact capabilities of the monitor, but I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong about that. AB demonstrated what is supposed to be (IIRC) the same system they had. It's just 3 minutes long and worth watching, IMO.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=280073522825085