CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #18

[Colorado303]

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[Layla123]

AB was wrong about the slowdown. Many of SW’s videos and posts were removed from her fb page a few days after the murders. I know I saw one where she said she couldn’t wait to get home to CW and the girls that she posted the night she returned from AZ. If you check out other groups, you’ll see them there.

 

[Allabouttrial]

AB was wrong about the slowdown. Many of SW’s videos and posts were removed from her fb page a few days after the murders. I know I saw one where she said she couldn’t wait to get home to CW and the girls that she posted the night she returned from AZ. If you check out other groups, you’ll see them there.

AB wrong!! Never.

 

[Layla123]

AB wrong!! Never.

I still think she’s worth watching, but watcher, beware.

 

[Colorado303]

AB was wrong about the slowdown. Many of SW’s videos and posts were removed from her fb page a few days after the murders. I know I saw one where she said she couldn’t wait to get home to CW and the girls that she posted the night she returned from AZ. If you check out other groups, you’ll see them there.

I was wondering about that. I’d heard a lot of them had been removed when they memorialized SW’s page. But assumed if I knew that then AB must surely have been aware of it to and wouldn’t base an entire episode on the slow down without vetting it first.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Backed up his truck to load his “tools”. Pathetic.

Why would he have had his tools in the house? His answer would have been interesting..

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

If C.W. could strangle his children, he would have no problem dumping them in oil. What’s the difference?

IMHO CW is capable of ANYTHING at all and that's one reason he should not be out loose roaming around in our society.

 

[Layla123]

I was wondering about that. I’d heard a lot of them had been removed when they memorialized SW’s page. But assumed if I knew that then AB must surely have been aware of it to and wouldn’t base an entire episode on the slow down without vetting it first.

Surprised me! I can’t say how many were removed, or compare month to month numbers, but I do know she said she couldn’t wait to see C.W. when she got home that night.

 

[Seattle1]

SW had her little girls with her, and the stay in
NC should have been a very happy time with the girls doing fun things with grandma, grandpa and the uncle. There should have been many things to capture on video and share on FB. JMO, I don't think this was a happy time for SW.

It is hard to say whether SW had confirmed an affair or affairs before she went to NC, but JMO, I don't think so. SW had told a friend or friends that CW wasn't being his normal, loving self and SW was starting to wonder if he was having an affair because of his attitude change. JMO.

SW's suspicions may have grown very serious when she got to NC. He may have been with AP and wasn't answering her calls and was slow to return calls, not calling her as frequently as normal, etc. JMO

A combination of attitude change and lack of accountability from their husband is enough to turn many wives into detectives. I tend to think SW discovered the affair or affairs when she was in NC. It appears the first any of SW's friends heard of a separation was when the beautician who worked with SW's mother mentioned it in an interview. JMO. I recall one of the very early interviews with N. In this interview, she said when she called CW when she was at the house on Monday, he started to tell her about a separation and that was the first she'd heard of that and it was out of context for what was going on at the moment, and she told him "you either will or won't work that out." Her only concern at that time was finding SW and the girls and making sure they were ok.

The one thing I've not seen mentioned is why CW went to NC for the last week. Was his trip to NC planned when SW made her plans for the trip or was it a last minute thing. Does anyone know?

Relative to SW suspicion of CW "cheating," there is evidence that SW spoke about this to their couples friend (Thayer) prior to her trip to NC. In an interview, AT cited SW commented about CW cheating, but later disclaimed with "he has no game." It doesn't follow that SW would bring this up unless it was on her mind. As to no posts on SM, I don't do FB but as of yesterday SW instagram was still open, and her last (excited) post was August 1, and the last video uploaded was a few days earlier of baby Cece bowling in NC. MOO

 

[BelleIsle]

All of that is completely nullified by his dumping of his clean little girls in filthy crude oil.

Yep. And by not attempting to resuscitate any of them, or call 911.

 

[Colorado303]

Shanann actually had two FB pages — before she was publically announced missing I saw them both. One was more Thrive related than the other. Did they just delete the one they dodn’t memorialize?

 

[molly1255]

Thank you, that's the way I remember it too, ambiguous. I wouldn't rule out that the Dr's office said she didn't show up, disclosure laws or no. If I called to see if my relative/friend had shown up for a doc appt for example, they would tell me yes or no, or if she was ready to be picked up. Giving out diagnoses is a lot different, but just saying she didn't show up, I say no big deal that they (may have) told her. Also we don't know if Shan'nan had left Nickole's name as a contact name.

It may be as you stated as advising whether someone showed up for an appointment or not is not protected health information.

We don't know if N contacted the Dr's office or if the Dr's office contacted N to advise SW did not make her appointment Monday morning. The doctor's office may have been worried because SW was in a high-risk pregnancy.

I'm wondering if perhaps SW put N down as her contact person and possibly even her HIPAA person? SW was suspicious CW was being unfaithful and she may have trusted N much more than she trusted CW as her pregnancy progressed. As things turned out, N was indeed worthy of SW's trust.

JMO

 

[PommyMommy]

Update on Dieter
Weeks After The Triple Murder of Shan'ann Watts and Her Daughters, Her Dog, Dieter, Finds a New Home

“He gets a little nervous here and there because he’s not used to … my chihuahua and her attitude lol,” Rzucek wrote in a comment. “He’s starting to figure out she’s all bark and no bite. Lol I even caught them playing together last night and she usually doesn’t like ‘new’ people or pets, hell anyone but me. Haha”

Rzucek wrote that his chihuahua understands that Dieter is in mourning for his loss:

“But its like she knows he’s sad. It's amazing how animals know certain things, but they do. My dogs have not left my side ever since this happened.”

 

[PommyMommy]

https://people.com/crime/shanann-watts-brother-speaks-colorado-triple-murders/

Shan’ann Watts‘ younger brother spoke out on Friday about the triple slaying of his pregnant sister and his two young nieces — and he expressed his gratitude to the community that has supported his family since the deaths last month.

“I wanted to take a minute and thank everyone who has helped us in every way possible,” Frankie Rzucek wrote on Facebook early Friday. “From best friends and family to people from all over THE WORLD.”

“Its truly an honor and a blessing to be a part of this family,” he continued. “Its an [indescribable] feeling when people all over the globe reach out just to send their condolences or be a listening ear.”

 

[molly1255]

I was reading a crime writer's blog that was linked here (Nick VDL, may I link it??) and there is a video clip from AB showing that there was a life insurance policy taken out by CW on Bella, the oldest child. Not saying that this was a motive but does anyone know who the beneficiary was and how much it was worth? Adding a MOO.

This was a spouse and child life benefit provided by his employer, and paid by CW through payroll deduction. The amount of coverage has not been released.

Since CW was paying the premium through payroll deduction, he is the beneficiary, unless he took steps to specifically name a different beneficiary.

 

[PhoneJockey]

I'm jumping ahead several pages here, so forgive me if I'm off topic when/where this lands.

Regarding Chris deactivating his Facebook page a week before the murders - this would have been when he was in NC or shortly before going there. I'm thinking that he'd been telling his mistress that he and Shanann were separated for the 5 weeks she was gone, and he did not want her to see that he was going to spend a week with her and the kids in NC - or, even if he told her he was going there, he didn't want her seeing tagged photos of them together and such.

Also, Shanann definitely wouldn't get a notification that he deactivated his account unless she had an app that would notify her of anyone on her friends list unfriending, deactivating or blocking her. I have such an app, but most people I talk to about it never knew it was something available.

It would be easy enough for her to realize it was gone when she tried to tag him and his name wouldn't appear, but Facebook itself doesn't give out notifications of these events.

Also, I do believe Shanann was running Chris Thrive account, a way to kind of double down with her work and branch out. The IG posts of his that we've seen do NOT sound like posts most guys make. I've known TONS of people who sell some type of MLM, but none of these have EVER been men. I know it's not unheard of, I just don't think it was likely he was actively doing it although he had a sales account in his name. Kind of like when there is a contest or raffle I want to win but I'm only allowed one entry, I'll also do an entry in my SO's name to double my chances. He worked a full time job outside of the home and did lots of running and other activities, I just don't see him having the time to devote to it in order to be successful, or even wanting to for that matter.

This post turned out a LOT longer than I intended, so I apologize again if it lands strangely in relation to the discussion at hand.

 

[RavenCC2020]

Agree. The salacious he loved to choke me during sex just doesn't sit right with me from a person that seems to be elated to tell any national media that story 3 weeks after a tripple murder. Jmo

Thats something no real respectful woman would want to shout to the world this quickly.

Sorry, I had to laugh when I read this, totally not slamming you here just laughed. Tinder is not an app that is well known for being frequented by respectful people LOL... I do believe it is mostly used for a quick hook up site although there are some exceptions. If true, I don't think CW was intending to find respectful women when he posted his profile there.

 

[Seattle1]

BARRED FROM TALKING......

7 Sept 2018
"...According to an arrest affidavit previously obtained by PEOPLE, Chris has claimed that he killed his wife in a “rage” after watching her strangle one of their daughters.

Authorities have said he was allegedly cheating on Shan’ann with a co-worker at the time she was killed.

Chris’ lawyer did not respond to PEOPLE’s requests for comment. However, according to a statement from the state’s public defender’s office, which is representing him, their attorneys are barred from discussing ongoing criminal cases. ..."
BBM

Weeks After The Triple Murder of Shan'ann Watts and Her Daughters, Her Dog, Dieter, Finds a New Home

"Barred" from discussing is strong language. Defense definitely wants a gag order. IMO...

 

[molly1255]

Or acknowledge that she had a doctors appt she’d surely mentioned to him.

I wonder if she did tell him about her doctor's appointment. For the last couple of days, I have been thinking the separation was just around the corner and they may only been communicating with one another about work schedules and the kids. IDK.

 

[Doghairrules]

CW’s Public Defender must have a pretty high opinion of himself if he thinks he’s going to be able to convince 12 jurors that Shanann Watts strangled her children.

But he just needs to convince 1, right?