CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #18

[BUF]

Every single time I read that, about the kids, my gut clinches! I hope the prosecution shows lots of photos of those precious little girls so that the jury gets to know them!

I can almost guarantee that they will have large photos on easels during the opening and they will get them up whenever given a chance.

And they will be pointing to him, telling the jurors how he disposed of them as those easels are up.

 

[nwmouse]

Since he accused SW of strangling them, I think he strangled them.

I think its likely.

 

[barcode]

Just a quick question, I know there was a lot of speculation as to whether CW was gay and if his lover was gay but people mag says his affair is with a female, which is right?

 

[MassGuy]

Just a quick question, I know there was a lot of speculation as to whether CW was gay and if his lover was gay but people mag says his affair is with a female, which is right?

Correct. That co worker that he was reportedly having an affair with, was female. She is cooperating, according to their reporting.

 

[Barb Wire]

Chris Watts, the man accused of killing his pregnant wife and two young daughters, is under suicide watch in jail — and is under constant surveillance to ensure that he doesn’t harm himself.

A source at the Weld County Jail confirmed to HLN’s Crime & Justice with Ashleigh Banfield that the 33-year-old murder defendant is under “Close Watch Protocol” — a technical name for suicide watch. PEOPLE has independently confirmed the report.<snip>

Triple Murder Suspect Chris Watts Is Under Suicide Watch in Jail: Sources

 

[Thepoet]

Just a quick question, I know there was a lot of speculation as to whether CW was gay and if his lover was gay but people mag says his affair is with a female, which is right?

The original AP discovered by the police is female and a co-worker. The gay lover and gay/bi speculation is, so far, just speculation.

Sorry, missed the response by MassGuy.

 

[dirtdigger]

TB might have removed a tighter shot where the words FENTANYL was clearly seen on a patch.
Here is the Fentanyl patch somewhat covered by his tee shirt. It's the clear thing on left arm.

I see saran wrap on his left arm around a tattoo. It is common practice to do so right after getting a tattoo done. At least that's what my tattoo artist recommends.

 

[nwmouse]

TB might have removed a tighter shot where the words FENTANYL was clearly seen on a patch.
Here is the Fentanyl patch somewhat covered by his tee shirt. It's the clear thing on left arm.

Do we know it was Fentanyl and not something else that he pretended was Fentanyl in order to be "cool"? I don't even know how someone would procure a patch unless it was r/x'd after surgery or for something like cancer. My cat had a Fentanyl patch when he had to have jaw and dental surgery, and it was wrapped around his leg for a week. It was a clear patch but didn't have the words "Fentanyl" on.

 

[nwmouse]

Just a quick question, I know there was a lot of speculation as to whether CW was gay and if his lover was gay but people mag says his affair is with a female, which is right?

Allegedly: CW allegedly had a male encounter and this male phoned into AB's show. It appears CW may have been experimenting with both sexes although at this time its all "alleged". His affair is with a female co-worker afaik. MOO!!

 

[Shekkiec]

I’m watch AB and she is mentioning the lack of posting SW did in August . She keeps emphasing there is nothing from Chris on there . He deactivated is fb right? I thought her social media had been censored by LE or family member am I wrong ?

 

[Davia18]

I’m watch AB and she is mentioning the lack of posting SW did in August . She keeps emphasing there is nothing from Chris on there . He deactivated is fb right? I thought her social media had been censored by LE or family member am I wrong ?

Your correct. I looked at SW fb when she very first went missing and lots was removed. People were posting all kinds of comments on all her latest post and they are gone now once it was made a legacy account. Chris deactivated his fb a week pre the murders and I have not found his instagram.

 

[Bill Carson]

I’m watch AB and she is mentioning the lack of posting SW did in August . She keeps emphasing there is nothing from Chris on there . He deactivated is fb right? I thought her social media had been censored by LE or family member am I wrong ?

IMHO, SW was posting CW's SM content. The fact that the SM was taken down the week before indicates to me that SW had decided that she and CW were going to separate (as corroborated by the person at SW's mother's salon), and that she wasn't going to be selling Thrive in CW's name any more.

 

[Mo Thuairim]

I’m watch AB and she is mentioning the lack of posting SW did in August . She keeps emphasing there is nothing from Chris on there . He deactivated is fb right? I thought her social media had been censored by LE or family member am I wrong ?

You're right on both counts. He deactivated his account and her family made some of her recent posts private.

 

[molly1255]

For MerryB and PommyMommy,

Since I hate to give any diagnosis without formal assessment, I can comfortable say that I don’t really see signs of narcissism. I more so see signs of someone who is knowingly telling a lie and is hoping he is telling it convincingly enough for it to be believed.

There are many different cues I picked up on while watching the interview. Subtle moments where C.W. appeared to suppress a smile or smirk, others where he appeared to be thinking more than would be reasonable for facts that should have been readily available. There were other little ‘tells” but overall:

I would have to say that there is nothing overtly present to suggest extreme emotional disturbance but that is only assessed by viewing the video interviews and reading what he has publicly stated. There is no possible (nor legal) way I could offer an actual diagnosis without having performed an actual evaluation on C.W. for myself.

Please feel free to ask any questions!

Thank you. Would you be able to tell us what kind or kinds of mental health issues are typically involved in cases such as this?

 

[Deleted member 117120]

This is the message I received when I knew I had a friend with a deactivated account.

This account has been deactivated. Only you can see ******** on your friends list. You have the option to unfriend ********.[/QUOTE

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Then when CW deleted his Facebook account the week before the murders then absolutely SW would have received a message alert through her Facebook account promptly. And I am certain that SW had her Facebook account linked to her cell phone because that was her main avenue for sales for Thrive. Did SW get that notification while in NC or when she returned home from NC or while she was in AZ with Thrive group?
It has become very clear to me that SW was aware of many issues going on with CW then we originally thought

 

[LovesChocolate]

LE had a two day lead on the investigation, and everything fell into place. LE and maybe NAU started going door to door to make sure SW not at neighbors since it appeared she and the girls were on foot and maybe close to home. I also believe the neighbor's camera footage came into play right away. CW gave the first investigator one timeline, and by the time the second officer arrived, CW must have seen and/or gotten word about the neighbors camera and timestamps because he suddenly began quoting exact times such as SW arrived home at 1:48AM, and he left for work at 5:27AM. These were camera recorded times, not his memory! I believe LE went direct to Anadarko on Monday, and I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't know about co-worker AP by Monday evening. Good chance CW had company cell phone and LE would have had immediate access to his phone/gps records versus waiting on warrant for CW phone. I'm still shocked how quickly this went down as CW was on his way home to meet LE around noon Monday, and voluntarily at the police station around noon Weds, never to leave again. MOO

BBM - thank you; I didn't know those details, and now everything makes more sense to me. If NAU told police about the video and the fact that they don't show SW ever leaving the house, that makes sense LE reacted so quickly. NAU is an amazing friend indeed. Her attention and diligence to her friend has only made me realize how easily I could go missing and other than my job, literally no one would notice.

Annnnd...I can't keep up with all the posts. Whew!

 

[BingoBongo]

Respectfully disagree if you mean the stories about the AP's. I think CW was sick of married life with kids and wanted to be free to pursue sex without any parental responsibilities, time or money wise. So his sex addiction and affairs are at the root of his motive to murder his family, imo.

As far as I have found, the only reliable and LE provided validation of an AP is the woman he worked with.

I have seen no validation for any others, and by validation I mean LE validation, not AB or Radar On-line, Daily Mail, or SM rumors. We DO NOT KNOW that he has a sex addiction, we only know what has been rumored. He may have (and I wouldn't doubt it....), but until we know for sure, it's speculation, and some are treating speculation as fact.

Get's very confusing.

 

[BingoBongo]

People do eat after having sex. Those are supposed to be very delicious sandwiches. lol.

A blind date thought he'd impress me by driving me up to the real Beverly Hills mansion used in the TV series "The Beverly Hillbillies" as being the Clampetts mansion. There was no 2nd date.

LOLO! I think we may have dated the same man, once!

 

[BingoBongo]

Hate to say it, but this woman posted about her Tinder dates (not the choking part) on online forums a while ago. If it the DM woman is the same woman...

Links?

 

[Seattle1]

I’m watch AB and she is mentioning the lack of posting SW did in August . She keeps emphasing there is nothing from Chris on there . He deactivated is fb right? I thought her social media had been censored by LE or family member am I wrong ?

CW said to have deleted/deactivated his FB a month before murders so that would explain no activity in August for AB. I believe SW social media accounts Instagram, FB, etc. are still open as before (not censored) except FB has been memorialized.