Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #19

[Bill Carson]

We have nothing to verify that there was a door from the garage to the outside of the garage. From what was said, it was an indoor from the house door to the garage. Just want to make sure that folks understand when you said there is a side door from the garage... that that is in your opinion and not a fact.

Moo

Perhaps you have such a link to make it a fact or somebody else?

From the pictures of the side of the house that are shown at this link, it does not appear that this house had a door from the garage to the backyard. Some houses have them, some don't.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2905-Saratoga-Trl-Frederick-CO-80516/104119339_zpid/

 

[pocketaccent]

I wonder who is taking care of SW and CW house now that it is empty? Sounds eerie to me.

The empty house tells a story:

CW took away lives of Shanann, Bella, CeCe, and Nico, for his freedom but then he didn't get to enjoy not even one day of freedom he dreamt of. The day he killed his beautiful family, LE was there in his house. The next day, LE was there again with scent dogs. The next day, LE came back again, confiscated his trash can.

Now the house sits empty. He never got to enjoy the freedom from his family. Good.

 

[gitana1]

We have nothing to verify that there was a door from the garage to the outside of the garage. From what was said, it was an indoor from the house door to the garage. Just want to make sure that folks understand when you said there is a side door from the garage... that that is in your opinion and not a fact.

Moo

Perhaps you have such a link to make it a fact or somebody else?

CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #18

CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #18

 

[nwmouse]

I do not believe this as I think he premeditated it. But let us say that she killed the kids because she did not want him to have them. To have his gf have a part of raising them.

What I get stuck on is the putting of them in oil tanks.And of course, not helping the girls by seeing if they can be helped. It does not add up

It doesn't add up because CW was a sloppy planner who thought he could get away with murder. He never bothered to strategize, organize, pre-plan what to say to the media/cops etc.

 

[Whiteorchids]

I do not believe this as I think he premeditated it. But let us say that she killed the kids because she did not want him to have them. To have his gf have a part of raising them.

What I get stuck on is the putting of them in oil tanks.And of course, not helping the girls by seeing if they can be helped. It does not add up

I agree with this, putting the girls in that gross crude oil makes him look as guilty as heck. IMHO

 

[Inthedetails]

I agree with this, putting the girls in that gross crude oil makes him look as guilty as heck. IMHO

Yep.

jmo

 

[Bill Carson]

From the pictures of the side of the house that are shown at this link, it does not appear that this house had a door from the garage to the backyard. Some houses have them, some don't.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2905-Saratoga-Trl-Frederick-CO-80516/104119339_zpid/

I'm going to try to link the pictures themselves. The Watts home is the brown home on the right.

 

[Seattle1]

I keep reading this (not here!!!) that Chris confessed to killing his wife and children, and that is not true, He confessed to killing Shanann, but was "charged" with all their murders. Even some media has it wrong!! I believe he killed them all, but it sure is confusing out there!

Uploaded the Arrest Affidavit a couple pages back for reference! It's true that CW only confessed to 1 murder but who wouldn't be confused: It's really hard to understand that the same person confessing of submerging his babies in a dirty, toxic, oil tank, is not the same person that murdered them. MOO...

 

[SausagePizza]

whoever killed the daughters? it was CW that for sure killed SW and was part of the childrens murder's when he placed his little girls in the tanks. He must have been out of his mind. Bad guys do that kind of stuff.

 

[PommyMommy]

From the pictures of the side of the house that are shown at this link, it does not appear that this house had a door from the garage to the backyard. Some houses have them, some don't.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2905-Saratoga-Trl-Frederick-CO-80516/104119339_zpid/

Oh my goodness, it sure doesn't. Does anyone have a clear picture or video that shows the entire left (garage) side of the home?

 

[cottonweaver]

I'm going to try to link the pictures themselves. The Watts home is the brown home on the right.

Thankyou
Never seen those photos at that angle before.

 

[Allabouttrial]

whoever killed the daughters? it was CW that for sure killed SW and was part of the childrens murder's when he placed his little girls in the tanks. He must have been out of his mind. Bad guys do that kind of stuff.

Out of his mind previously, or just that night do you think?

 

[gitana1]

Oh my goodness, it sure doesn't. Does anyone have a clear picture or video that shows the entire left (garage) side of the home?

We wouldn't be able to tell without seeing the whole side of the house where the garage would fit.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

His story never changed once he confessed. They waited 5 full days to release the affidavit. The media went rampant with headline saying a source says he confessed to all 3. Never did that happen.

Oops, am I walking in on a previous conversation. I'll have to go back in threats to see what's going on. But just address this one...

Yes, for those who us who follow trials, once somebody confesses and they get a lawyer, their story does not change until they go to trial or unless they're like Jodi Arias and they want to go on the news afterwards. So I'm not sure what that is about that you're making a point of?

It is absolutely positively normal that the story does not change after somebody confesses once they get a lawyer. Until they do it at trial, or they (defense minions)try to do it in the media with bringing a bunch of hysterical silly stuff into the mainstream media like roy cronk/male AP'S for chris etc..(. moot point)

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

I remember that conversation. He would be in control of the house once the police give it up, because he's the living owner. Charged or not. This exact scenario came up in the scott peterson case.

He had control so he sent his family to take care of things. It became a very sad thing. Her family just wanted a couple of things to remember her and the baby by. Her rocking chair. The crib. Some of her personal items. Her journals. Her wedding dress.

His family came rushing over screeching about how they were stealing. It was the saddest thing. They didn't want to even let her family take a thing of hers. Earlier, his family had carted away a ton of stuff.

Ultimately it was determined, however, that her estate owned half the house.

Scott, Laci Peterson families argue at home

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sf...eaks-in-at-Laci-s-house-Husband-s-2613925.php

I hope nothing like that happens in this case.

Just evil, despicable people. The apple sure didn't roll far from THAT tree.

 

[nwmouse]

whoever killed the daughters? it was CW that for sure killed SW and was part of the childrens murder's when he placed his little girls in the tanks. He must have been out of his mind. Bad guys do that kind of stuff.

I don't think CW was out of his mind. I think he's a cold, calculating killer who concocted a lousy plan and got nailed. MOO!

 

[Seattle1]

Confirming family home has a fence and gate beside the garage wall.

 

[idfinch]

Trinket78, thank you for being here. I understand your hesitation and fear, especially since you know them both but seem to be on CW’s side. This is a safe place. No “outing” of any kind is permitted, nor do you have to answer questions about how you know them or who you are. It’s also victim friendly, and SW and the kids are gone, so people feel strongly. Threads are moderated regularly.

I do have questions.

If your first thought was “what did she do” and imply she was the narcissist and controlling spouse, and she was well aware he wanted to separate before that night, WHY do you think she would snap then? Why attack her children instead of him? Why not go after the man causing it all in her mind?

And if this did happen and she turned into a psychotic child killer, why would he not push her off Cece and call 911 to try to save the kids and have her arrested? That would’ve given him his freedom and his kids justice. Why would he worry about protecting himself, or her reputation, either one? Do you feel like they could both turn murderous and have no concern for their children at the same time?

Why do you feel he felt it was a better option to kill her and then dump the babies in the oil tanks than go to authorities? Why and how do you feel that he was able to be so composed and happy in multiple interviews if he had just seen his wife murder his children? I’d think the grief would be etched on his face and visible by the couple he stayed with, which they said it was not.

Thank you for any insight you can offer.

 

[GrilledCheezy]

Anybody can tell a good story when they're the only one telling it...

This needs to be printed on a T-shirt!

 

[Sark06]

If and for me it's a very big IF SW strangled the girls, CW could've tried CPR or called for medical assistance, tried to take the children to hospital, taking the time to strangle SW was wasting vital time he could have used to save his babies, these are the babies he is saying he killed for? If SW was the narcissist and CW was living the life of a hen pecked controlled hubby who had to look elsewhere where did his send a of wright and wrong go? If his version is to be believed surely you would call for help thinking that the horror of what SW had done justified the retaliation? If he had any decency he would have been drowning in grief not self preservation