Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #22

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  • #781
Your last point is key for me here. You could potentially have hours of lies captured on tape. We’d see him deny knowing where his family was, then ultimately pointing out exactly where he put them, after being confronted with the drone images of that bedsheet, and what appeared to be disturbed earth. A jury will likely not respond well to this.
CW does really seem to be a major screw up, doesn't he? Yes, many things went against him; late flight, NAU, etc., but he has made a lot of mistakes! Karma?
 
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CW does really seem to be a major screw up, doesn't he? Yes, many things went against him; late flight, NAU, etc., but he has made a lot of mistakes! Karma?
You might call it “poetic justice.”
 
  • #783
I was referring to the different environments of the oil versus being buried in the ground.
OK, I was thinking maybe the tanks were different.
 
  • #784
part of the reason that I became a lawyer in a rural area was the influence of To Kill a Mockingbird and the ideal of Atticus Finch.

SBM
Great post - thank you! One of my all time favorite books!
 
  • #785
Imo only, I would think regardless he’s still going to do time in prison for murdering his wife and terminating the pregnancy in the process, his unborn child. No matter how anyone looks at it.
And disposing of their bodies.
 
  • #786
Is it known that the 2 tanks had different temps? I think it was posted here that they are "unheated", but they would have a heat all of their own, or the product would be very thick, I'd guess. Crude is pretty warmed up when being transported through pipelines, IIRC. Somewhere else it said they were under "ambient pressure". I don't know, I still wonder why he put them in different tanks, could be 1) setting off sensors with too much displacement of oil, ie rise in oil level, 2) knowing that after they slowly decompose (?) they will be less likely to clog filters in 2 different tanks. Has anyone heard whether or not he had any kind of line on them to possibly yank them out for reburial when things calmed down. ie tied to the stairs? (no I haven't heard that, just wondering)
I did read in the affidavit that they had to retrieve the girls by draining the tanks and taking them out from the bottom.
 
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I did read in the affidavit that they had to retrieve the girls by draining the tanks and taking them out from the bottom.
Wow, I missed that. Really sad.
 
  • #789
I did read in the affidavit that they had to retrieve the girls by draining the tanks and taking them out from the bottom.
How heartbreaking.
 
  • #790
No, IMO, I don't think PD's would get as "creative" as private attorneys.

I'm not a big court-watcher, but one thing to keep in mind that the OJ case was a Hollywood case, with a Hollywood defendant, and Hollywood lawyers. (And a weak judge, btw.) I wouldn't use that case as an example of real life.

Other court-watchers, feel free to give us your opinions.
I wouldn't use any high profile case as a good example because they were convicted in the court of public opinion by prosecutors. I was appalled at the circus atmosphere of those trials. JMO
 
  • #791
I did read in the affidavit that they had to retrieve the girls by draining the tanks and taking them out from the bottom.
The poor people who had that job.
 
  • #792
I did read in the affidavit that they had to retrieve the girls by draining the tanks and taking them out from the bottom.


That's so disturbing. I'll never get the images of that out of my head. (The images my mind made in the first place--of course) like I said yesterday it's the stuff of nightmares. I really would love to know his thought process with that.
 
  • #793
Not on the tanks though, and perhaps on other items we’re unaware of. But yeah, as for the shovel, and items like that, you’re right.
The tanks were at his workplace so his prints would be expected to be there just as they would be found on his property. He also told LE what he did.
 
  • #794
Your last point is key for me here. You could potentially have hours of lies captured on tape. We’d see him deny knowing where his family was, then ultimately pointing out exactly where he put them, after being confronted with the drone images of that bedsheet, and what appeared to be disturbed earth. A jury will likely not respond well to this.
Just saying imo if you are going on jury I have done a complete 180 on this case . I now see she could have done it
 
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All I can find is the may 7th conversation, if you go there. It's not an announcement but a discussion
Hi! New here but wanted to just jump right in! If you scroll through SW Facebook page back to around December 2017 there are several posts and comments from friends about them having a 3rd baby and SW consistently said that she did not want to
 
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Is it known that the 2 tanks had different temps? I think it was posted here that they are "unheated", but they would have a heat all of their own, or the product would be very thick, I'd guess. Crude is pretty warmed up when being transported through pipelines, IIRC. Somewhere else it said they were under "ambient pressure". I don't know, I still wonder why he put them in different tanks, could be 1) setting off sensors with too much displacement of oil, ie rise in oil level, 2) knowing that after they slowly decompose (?) they will be less likely to clog filters in 2 different tanks. Has anyone heard whether or not he had any kind of line on them to possibly yank them out for reburial when things calmed down. ie tied to the stairs? (no I haven't heard that, just wondering)

Do we know for sure that they were in 2 separate tanks?
 
  • #798
That's so disturbing. I'll never get the images of that out of my head. (The images my mind made in the first place--of course) like I said yesterday it's the stuff of nightmares. I really would love to know his thought process with that.
I believe that he thought that they would never been found. Oil would be pumped in and out for years and the crude would probably dissolve soft little bones after some time.
 
  • #799
The tanks were at his workplace so his prints would be expected to be there just as they would be found on his property. He also told LE what he did.
His confession is irrelevant to the collection of evidence. We know he touched those tanks because he confessed to it. But you still do your due dilligence as members of law enforcement. You don’t give him an ounce of wiggle room, especially in case he withdraws his confession.
 
  • #800
Hi! New here but wanted to just jump right in! If you scroll through SW Facebook page back to around December 2017 there are several posts and comments from friends about them having a 3rd baby and SW consistently said that she did not want to
I'm looking for it but cannot find it. You're saying SW says she did NOT want a baby on her SM?
 
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