Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #45

[human]

Who is the dependent one?

When she went on her 5 week trip, she made him 5 weeks worth of meals, to keep in the freezer so he could eat them while she was gone.

She chose and bought all his clothes.

She opened the mail and evidently dealt with the bills and the correspondence.

Their social circle was based upon her large group of friends and coworkers.

She was the one who moved to Colorado from NC, and he eventually followed.

This was his FIRST serious relationship. She was much more experienced as she had a brief marriage when she as young.

So I really do not agree that she was this dependent weak female, that would wilt and die without her rock.

I think she would have been just fine.

I thought he moved to CO first and she followed?

 

[NuttMegg]

I added a comma to break up my thoughts but yo break it up additionally
I do not want SW having unconfirmed rumors circulated in media.
I do not believe everything bad I read about her.
There are discussions of CW having HIV and Steriod rage as a motive theory daily .

I consider implying that the murdered lady was carrying a different man's baby, and accusing her of faking lupus, yep, I consider those unconfirmed rumors. Which are against TOS IIRC, but you should take that up with a moderator, which I definitely am not. SW is a victim, CW is charged with 5 first degree murders.

 

[Golden Girl]

Hello Everyone! I just found out that this thread has reopened and wanted to post something I saw recently. It's an article and photo of Shanann and her colleagues waiting out the Monsoon that caused their flights to be cancelled. This is the last photo of her that was taken at 6:30 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2018 at the Thirsty Lyon near Skyharbor Airport in Phoenix, Arizona.

'It's unimaginable': Queen Creek woman remembers slain Colorado family

 

[Mellowmelly]

Unless she was just praising him like that, to try and build his confidence, make him feel better about himself.

She had just taken her girls to NC for 5 weeks, without her husband. So she wasn't all that dependent upon him.

People have said that she was the controlling one, the one who took the reins in the relationship.

She was the one who took charge of things. When she returned home at the end of 5 weeks, she said the mail was piled up, for her to open. That says a lot, in my opinion. He left a lot of decisions to her, it appears.

It sounds to me like she was the man in the relationship because she had no choice but to be.

 

[human]

Just like we do with kids to help them get some self esteem on the first day of school when they are frightened. Except she was trying to instill confidence in a grown man.

I would hate to be in an adult relationship where someone sees me as a project. They are the wise together one and I am the one that needs fixing up

 

[NuttMegg]

It sounds to me like she was the man in the relationship because she had no choice but to be.

An amazing dynamic in marriages, when one is a go-getter but the other is supposed to step up and wear the pants at certain times. When there is a vacuum it gets filled, when there is something to be done and the partner that "should" be doing it, according to roles the couple has embraced, if that person does not step up and do it, then the go-getter does it instead, causing all sorts of hurt feelings in the weaker partner who would not do it himself. Sometimes sensibilities are so damaged that they seek APs to bouy up their hurt feelings.

 

[bonjoviblonde]

Hello Everyone! I just found out that this thread has reopened and wanted to post something I saw recently. It's an article and photo of Shanann and her colleagues waiting out the Monsoon that caused their flights to be cancelled. This is the last photo of her that was taken at 6:30 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2018 at the Thirsty Lyon near Skyharbor Airport in Phoenix, Arizona.

'It's unimaginable': Queen Creek woman remembers slain Colorado family

She has no idea that a few hours later she will be dead by the hands of her husband. It's really sad to think about.

 

[tmar]

From previous thread:
NuttMegg,
"Over several days the his story changed from trying to convince people she ran away with her children or someone "took" her, to telling LE he would only tell the truth if he could consult with someone face to face....THEN he would tell the truth."

It was CW who picked his father up, from the airport.
CW would have spoken to his father then.
After contact with LE, CW wanted to speak to his father AGAIN, before he 'told the truth'.

This is to give CW more time, to 'create his story', formulate a plan.
My ideas about this: some legal insight to see if CW's proposed 'story' has a chance, possible scenarios to help CW's case therefore to blame SW.
MOO.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

So it was never said with a hash tag as the poster claimed, and never said with actual words, but it was insinuated?

Yes, IMO it has been insinuated that CW has a fanclub on this thread.

 

[NuttMegg]

Yes, IMO it has been insinuated that CW has a fanclub on this thread.

The OP claimed that posters here always use offensive hash tags. No, we don't.

 

[PommyMommy]

I have never, not once, in any of the 45 long threads, seen #CWfanclub or #fanclub or any other hash tag used on this board.

Until today, I hadn't either. However, we did discuss an episode of AB in which she discussed some women from a FB group who were sending CW letters in jail. She even read one of the letters on her show. It may have started there and has been referred to since then as the fan club, I don't know, and I'm not sure why it's an issue. But here is the transcript of AB's show: CNN.com - Transcripts

MOO

 

[human]

Hello Everyone! I just found out that this thread has reopened and wanted to post something I saw recently. It's an article and photo of Shanann and her colleagues waiting out the Monsoon that caused their flights to be cancelled. This is the last photo of her that was taken at 6:30 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2018 at the Thirsty Lyon near Skyharbor Airport in Phoenix, Arizona.

'It's unimaginable': Queen Creek woman remembers slain Colorado family

What time did she find out the flight was cancelled? She knew at 6:30, anyway.

Does it make sense that he would kill the girls earlier,,then? He would have no way of knowing what time she would arrive,

Often when flights are cancelled, it causes a domino effect and flights all over are affected.

Or crew hours are over and they cannot get an additional crew to take over, They can only work so many hours and then their time is up even if they did not fly.

So she could have been stuck there overnight for all he knows.

 

[Amandaaa]

More Court documents posted

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/19th_Judicial_District/caseofinterest/2018CR2003/(D42) MR WATT'S OBJECTION TO REQUEST FOR EXPANDED MEDIA COVERAGE FILED BY DENVER 7 NEWS.pdf

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/19th_Judicial_District/caseofinterest/2018CR2003/[W] PEOPLE'S RESPONSE TO EXPANDED MEDIA COVERAGE REQUESTS.pdf

https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...R2003/Order-Expanded Media Coverage Watts.pdf

 

[MerryB]

I thought he moved to CO first and she followed?

Yes. There are a lot of misstatements here but I don’t have the time to correct w/links.

 

[NuttMegg]

Until today, I hadn't either. However, we did discuss an episode of AB in which she discussed some women FB sending CW letters in jail. She even read one of the letters on her show. It may have started there and has been referred to since then as the fan club, I don't know, and I'm not sure why it's an issue. But here is the transcript of AB's show: CNN.com - Transcripts

MOO

Well, yeah, I would considered women who write to murderers in jail, basically sending love letters, they are a type of fan club. Same as with the ones who flooded JMD and JVDS with fan mail and marriage proposals (they are both married now). But that's a far cry from what the OP said, that here on the board we use offensive hash tags to call each other names, paraphrased.

 

[human]

An amazing dynamic in marriages, when one is a go-getter but the other is supposed to step up and wear the pants at certain times. When there is a vacuum it gets filled, when there is something to be done and the partner that "should" be doing it, according to roles the couple has embraced, if that person does not step up and do it, then the go-getter does it instead, causing all sorts of hurt feelings in the weaker partner who would not do it himself. Sometimes sensibilities are so damaged that they seek APs to bouy up their hurt feelings.

It depends on the goals people have. Those may have been her goals , and he did not give a rip about the things she loved. They may have found that they were incompatible.

It resulted in murder, but because two people do not want the same things out of life does not mean another is stepping up to the plate. The other person may not even want to be in that game.

 

[human]

mmmmmmmm

 

[NuttMegg]

It depends on the goals people have. Those may have been her goals , and he did not give a rip about the things she loved. They may have found that they were incompatible.

It resulted in murder, but because two people do not want the same things out of life does not mean another is stepping up to the plate. The other person may not even want to be in that game.

Which is why I specified "according to roles the couple has embraced" It seems obvious that "he did not give a rip about things she loved."

 

[mrjitty]

Has he taken a plea deal ? Why won’t he be subjected to cross ?

Because he would have to testify - which I believe would be disastrous for his case

 

[Golden Girl]

Bringing over from the previous thread:


I am not aware that CW’s legal team has shared their defense strategy, but for the sake of discussion, the affidavit says:

Prior to Chris' confession investigators arrived at CERVI 319 (with consent) to initiate a drone search of the area. At approximately 4:15 PM investigators spotted a bed sheet in the field near the tank battery. The sheet matched the pattern of several pillow cases and a top sheet recovered from a kitchen trash can from the Watt's residence early that day. That searched was conducted with prior consent provided by Chris. The drone search also revealed fresh movement of dirt consistent with a clandestine grave near the oil tanks.
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/19th_Judicial_District/caseofinterest/2018CR2003/001/Warrantless Arrest Affidavit.pdf

Yes, they had him prior to his confession. There is no ambiguity there. (ie: Nothing is "blurred," as you say.) MOO

Skimming and trying to catch up on the last two threads and just want to clarify from the Warrantless Affidavit, "At approximately 4:25 PM Investigators spotted a bed sheet in the field near the tank battery. . . The drone search also revealed fresh movement of dirt consistent with a clandestine grave near the oil tanks.”

The Warrant is dated August 16, 2018, so was the drone out there on Wednesday, August 15, 2018? Wasn't CW arrested later that day on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 11:32 pm?