Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #46

[ZsaZsa]

Right. While at the same time several people who slammed that suggestion felt incredible speculation and rumors about Shanann was acceptable!

For what it's worth, I feel ALL that speculative, gossipy nonsense about her was baseless and without a shred of credible evidence.
ence that he molested his kids. Of course being an actual murderer makes it not as inconceivable as otherwise, but without proof I'm not going there at all.

This case is bad enough.

I did feel it a distinct possibility, only because I could not think of any other
information that would be so catastrophic to him if it were revealed .
I didn't know that much about him, but who would have taken him for a serial bisexual adulterer based on what SW said about him.
Maybe suppressing that kind of exposure to his family would be worth killing for?

 

[Tippy Lynn]

If the autopsies reveal a time difference between the deaths of the girls and SW, I don't know what CW could say at sentencing to excuse himself, there's not a 'moment of madness' he can pretend took hold of him. Maybe, 'I'm as guilty as hell, take me away!'

Either way there’s absolutely nothing he could say to excuse himself. What he did is inhumane. IMO

 

[Serena Angelique]

I was under the impression he only "used" the Thrive products, not sold them. I thought his work was with the oil company. I did not realize he traveled for work as well. I surely don't think CW is innocent in any way, he has a boatload of issues to contribute to the failure of the relationship.

Like killing his whole family. Most would say he is solely responsible! He has now confessed to it.

 

[violet101]

Hi Violet101,

I am going to have to say no to the podcast. No offense to the women hosting the podcast but it contains rumors and statements that cannot be backed up with any sort of evidence.

Some of the things said on the podcast would cause this thread to explode into a fireball of anger like never before on Websleuths.

Again, I am not trying to disrespect the hosts but it is not a show for Websleuths.

Tricia

thanks for responding! I respect that!

I honestly don’t agree with the majority of what they say as I feel like they have sympathy toward CW. This was just different as they had a friend of SW that was in the courtroom dial into their periscope episode yesterday and gave a little background info that I thought was interesting.

 

[PommyMommy]

Chris Watts won't face the death penalty and the district attorney blames the governor
A plea deal will spare the life of Chris Watts but the Weld County district attorney took jabs at the governor as he explained the decision Tuesday.

He went on to say that asking for the death penalty could subject the family to years of appeals and hearings.

Denver7 asked Governor John Hickenlooper about Dunlap's case and the criticism directed at him by Rourke.

"The bottom line is when I came in I was for the death penalty like a lot of people but when I got the facts and you see how unfair it is, it depends on which DA you get and whether they want to spend all that money. It’s very expensive, it costs baseline $15 million dollars once you get through the appeals to go through a death penalty case," said Hickenlooper.

 

[Kensie]

Was it worth it CW? Just what were you trying to accomplish - freedom?

Soon you will be in your new forever home. You put yourself there.

All you had to do was walk away and now you will never be able to walk away
from your new life.

 

[BabyButterfly]

He's going to kill himself. That's my belief. The minute he can he will. This kind of guy won't be able to stand hearing what's said about him and to him at sentencing. He will be so destroyed by that he won't be able to go on.

I think he's going to pull an Aaron Hernández or Ariel Castro after sentencing.

And he has nothing but prison to look forward to with no hope of getting out.

I say he takes himself out at the earliest possible opportunity.

I hope they watch him closely because he deserves to serve his sentence. Every last bit of it.

Is he smart enough to figure out how to do that? Sorry, was that rude?

 

[Amonet]

This photograph really creeps me out! Maybe it's all because I know what happend shortly after this moment, but his appearance alone seems so "unsettling" to me... like he has mentally already checked out. Besides one smiling person an rather "unhappy" photograph of such an actually happy event, if you asked me. Like it caught an eerie atmosphere.

I agree! It really gives me a feeling that he was already planning ahead to that night.

 

[MassGuy]

Is he smart enough to figure out how to do that? Sorry, was that rude?

As CW would say: “Like, what like, do you like mean?”

I’m pretty sure it’s ok to be rude to a mass murderer.

I hope he doesn’t decide to kill himself, and if he does, I hope that he fails as miserably as he did with covering up his crime.

No easy way out for him!

 

[Seattle1]

<modsnip - quoted post removed>
Please know that my heart hears you. I too am hopeful that now that the asserted defense that SW allegedly strangled her children a proven lie, that this thread will withdraw the prior approval to treat SW as anything other than an innocent victim who was savagely killed by her husband. Perhaps we can finally introduce more information about family annihilators, and start some intelligent conversations on how these traits might apply to convicted murder CW. Your posts are always well developed and presented, and I hope you take a rest and return with the confidence of being heard. JMO.

 

[PommyMommy]

Shan'ann Watts' Family Was 'Firm' in Not Wanting Death Penalty for Murderous Husband Chris Watts
It was the family of Chris Watts‘ three murder victims — his pregnant wife, Shan’ann Watts, and their girls, Bella and Celeste — who asked Colorado prosecutors not to seek the death penalty against him for his crimes. And it was once he would not face a possible execution that Chris agreed to plead guilty, on Tuesday, to all of the charges against him.

Speaking to reporters later Tuesday afternoon, after Chris’ surprising plea, Weld County District Attorney Michael Rourke described some of his office’s discussions with Shan’ann’s family leading up to the deal and how the decision was reached to take the death penalty off of the table.

While Rourke said he followed standard procedure in this case, acting no differently despite its notoriety, the clear wishes of Shan’ann’s family’s were unavoidable.

 

[BabyButterfly]

Where I live, properties where murders occur, sell well below market value.

I had a gruesome murder 2 doors away from me. The renters stayed there for about a year after. Yuck! But, now the house has been for sale for over 2 years. It was a well known murder in my area, no one wants it. Even though it's been completely rehabbed.

 

[Tigerlily75]

Hey Tigerlily, do I remember you from the Michelle Young case?

I don’t know of a Michelle Young, but I was on the Michelle Carter/Conrad Roy thread if that’s who you meant!

 

[kirkassoc]

thanks for responding! I respect that!

I honestly don’t agree with the majority of what they say as I feel like they have sympathy toward CW. This was just different as they had a friend of SW that was in the courtroom dial into their periscope episode yesterday and gave a little background info that I thought was interesting.

You're right. They definitely tend to sway toward CW's side. I listened for few minutes, but my stomach just wasn't strong enough. They tend to put a lot of lipstick on that pig, but it's still a pig. I guess I enjoy the "no victim bashing" standards on WS. I enjoy podcasts, but not that one.

 

[The Farm]

Considering how this couple was all about appearances, I doubt if divorce was an option for them. They wanted to project this image of "happiness and success," when behind closed doors there was fighting. lack of trust between them and serious financial problems. Given that $90,000.00 was provided as their combined financial income, they were swamped by debt. No way where I come from could they ever have qualified for a $400,000 home. They did not even pay their Home owners assn fees. Who really knows how much $$ she spent a month on her "business,"+ expenses, dinners, travel, etc. She must have spent considerable time away from her children. At some point, I can imagine each of them wanted out of the situation. In trying to look at this from the angle of both C & S, the stresses of all of it must have been building up to take a considerable tole on the marriage itself. It was a tinderbox. Those poor babies. MOO

Exactly and obviously just kept getting deeper and deeper and deeper into the proverbial hole to make it all look like a perfect life. I have felt this way from the beginning.

 

[NuttMegg]

You're right. They definitely tend to sway toward CW's side. I listened for few minutes, but my stomach just wasn't strong enough. They tend to put a lot of lipstick on that pig, but it's still a pig. I guess I enjoy the "no victim bashing" standards on WS. I enjoy podcasts, but not that one.

It's 99% sw bashing. On and on and on.

 

[JEM1975]

If their mortgage was current when he murdered them like it was back when they filed for bankruptcy in 6/15, they would have repaid $46K of the purchase price by 8/18 plus had another $100K in appreciation. So yes, it would have been at least $100K he might have pocketed for himself, $146K less selling costs.

The market here is pretty crazy and homes are selling for thousands above asking price and often go up due to bidding wars.

 

[Kensie]

The market here is pretty crazy and homes are selling for thousands above asking price and often go up due to bidding wars.

I wish my area was like yours. I have a house to sell. A house that has had no murders.

 

[Johnny1181]

Exactly and obviously just kept getting deeper and deeper and deeper into the proverbial hole to make it all look like a perfect life. I have felt this way from the beginning.

I have felt from the beginning that CW was a lying, cheating, deceptive fraud who strangled his loving, supportive wife and wonderful mother of his 2 babies to death and also strangled the life out of those baby girls. And then dumped them in oil and buried his wife and unborn son in dirt, got a pizza, and grinned for the cameras in his shirt. jmo

 

[nwmouse]

Considering how this couple was all about appearances, I doubt if divorce was an option for them. They wanted to project this image of "happiness and success," when behind closed doors there was fighting. lack of trust between them and serious financial problems. Given that $90,000.00 was provided as their combined financial income, they were swamped by debt. No way where I come from could they ever have qualified for a $400,000 home. They did not even pay their Home owners assn fees. Who really knows how much $$ she spent a month on her "business,"+ expenses, dinners, travel, etc. She must have spent considerable time away from her children. At some point, I can imagine each of them wanted out of the situation. In trying to look at this from the angle of both C & S, the stresses of all of it must have been building up to take a considerable tole on the marriage itself. It was a tinderbox. Those poor babies. MOO

Many couples go through financial hardships and marital challenges.
They move on and get through it.
Very few resort to slaughtering their entire family and have the evil gall to blame their murdered, pregnant wife for killing the girls.
Nope. IMO CW takes the cake, just like other family annihilators.
MOO.