Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #48

[Nikynoo]

It’s destined to fail if that’s their intent.

They will get all of the (damning) information in less than a week. I hope they come to terms with it then.

I’m not holding my breath though.

Lets hope it sets them on the right road.

 

[mtnlites]

I do not believe that CW wasn't allowed to communicate with his family. If he didn't see them or talk to him during his incarceration, I fully think that was his choice. He was allowed to have visitors, we know this because they filed to keep his visitor log private. After watching these interviews, I can now understand his decision.

 

[MassGuy]

I do not believe that CW wasn't allowed to communicate with his family. If he didn't see them or talk to him during his incarceration, I fully think that was his choice. He was allowed to have visitors, we know this because they filed to keep his visitor log private. After watching these interviews, I can now understand his decision.

Haaa, exactly. No one could have prevented him from communicating with his family if he so chose.

Mass murderer or not, I can see why someone wouldn’t want to talk to them.

 

[Marli61]

It’s destined to fail if that’s their intent.

They will get all of the (damning) information in less than a week. I hope they come to terms with it then.

I’m not holding my breath though.

BBM Me either. Zebras & their stripes & all....

 

[NuttMegg]

It’s destined to fail if that’s their intent.

They will get all of the (damning) information in less than a week. I hope they come to terms with it then.

I’m not holding my breath though.

I'll bet that their trying to find an attorney to come forward to save the day is stymied by not having the autopsy released yet. What defense lawyer would accept that case without first seeing the autopsy reports?

 

[Love Never Fails]

I think what CW's parents have said in these interviews paints a picture that is still consistent with CW being the only murderer that night.

CW said he was the calm one (like Bella) and Cece was 'gung ho' (like Shanann). CW's parents say he's always been calm.

Strangulation as a murder method is associated with a relatively calm, determined, quiet and deep loathing of the victim. If Shanann had got upset about CW telling her he wanted a divorce, is that how she'd be feeling about the girls? But that's CW's normal demeanor. So these murders were carried out in a way that is consistent with CW, from the mode of death to the cover up and the lying.

CW's mom has an image of CW of him as a little boy and a teen playing sports, someone who no one ever said a bad word about. What if his choice to plead now, before trial, before even a probable cause hearing where the DA would present the tip-of-the-iceberg version of evidence against CW, is because CW doesn't really want his parents to hear all that evidence, to hear that he's no longer mommy's perfect boy, that he's become a stinking, cheating, lying, conniving, cold-hearted murderer. Maybe CW doesn't want to go to court and have all the evidence against him presented and turn around and see the look of shame and disgust for him on his parents faces.

It’s just my opinion, but I do not believe CW would ever see a look of disgust and shame on his parents face. He is their golden boy (remember Scott Peterson)? And everything he did was the fault of SW. they will never change their minds. Sad!!!

 

[MassGuy]

I'll bet that their trying to find an attorney to come forward to save the day is stymied by not having the autopsy released yet. What defense lawyer would accept that case without first seeing the autopsy reports?

Well if they did bring in a new attorney to take over, he would then be privy to those reports.

Then he would run away.

 

[mtnlites]

Haaa, exactly. No one could have prevented him from communicating with his family if he so chose.

Mass murderer or not, I can see why someone wouldn’t want to talk to them.

And if they are upset or confused or feel like they're being kept in the dark, this is frustration that should be taken up with their son. I realize that they're having trouble communicating with him at the moment, but going public and re-victimizing the victim their son murdered doesn't seem like the way to go about it, either.

 

[Pi Thoughts]

America is a land of freedom, may I suggest that any CW sympathizers, who feel justice hasn’t been dealt with correctly, get their own law degree to help him.
How Long is Law School? | Law Colleges

 

[Zella]

America is a land of freedom, may I suggest that any CW sympathizers, who feel justice hasn’t been dealt with correctly, get their own law degree to help him.
How Long is Law School? | Law Colleges

 

[NuttMegg]

Well if they did bring in a new attorney to take over, he would then be privy to those reports.

Then he would run away.

Would it be possible for new atty to go thru the autopsy reports because he was "thinking" of taking the case? Would he/she have to commit first? How would that work.

 

[MassGuy]

Would it be possible for new atty to go thru the autopsy reports because he was "thinking" of taking the case? Would he/she have to commit first? How would that work.

You’d have to ask one of the attorneys. I truly think it’s a moot point at this stage, and the plea will hold.

 

[Seattle1]

Really looking forward to the 9News report tonight. IMO, CW’s mom has a “why is no one paying attention to me?” vibe to me...

JMO though. As always, there is so much we’ll never know. But maybe his mom will spill more beans in order to get more attention?

Yup -- expect more me, me, and me.

According to KMGH, the couple claimed their son changed when he married Shan’ann, alleging the couple had an abusive relationship and Shan’ann isolated Chris from his family.

“It was a very hard relationship,” Cindy Watts said. “It was a very hard relationship with her as far as I’m concerned. I couldn’t do anything right.
Chris Watts’ Parents Claim Son Was in Abusive Relationship with Wife He Admitted Murdering

 

[sun16]

Really looking forward to the 9News report tonight. IMO, CW’s mom has a “why is no one paying attention to me?” vibe to me...

JMO though. As always, there is so much we’ll never know. But maybe his mom will spill more beans in order to get more attention?

I feel like this with his parents is building to a nasty head of some sort, that’s going to pop.

 

[Amonet]

The DA didn't get him to plea, the defence proposed the plea (2 different ones IIRC).

The defense putting forward two plea offers really seems to say that CW was desperate to not go to trial.

I didn't think CW would plea at all and would go to trial. I was convinced that it made no sense to plea before the probable cause hearing where he'd find out a bit more about what he's up against.

But, thinking about it, a guilty person knows exactly what they're up against.

CW might have been naive in the first few days about what evidence he'd left and how closely LE would look at him...hoping desperately that they'd accept his story that SW and the children had simply 'vanished'. But he was living a fantasy those few days that he was going to get away with murder and no one would work out where the bodies were. As soon as he got totally backed into a corner with the location of the bodies, then he made a partial confession. He's had a few months now of beginning to understand and come to terms that he did not commit the 'perfect crime' and that all his 'mistakes' are going to come out in trial. The only thing trial would really achieve is to show his parents the fuller nature of what he's done.

So CW has gone from lying and saying he didn't know where SW and the children were or how they could have got out of the house. To admitting that yes, he was lying but, but, but. And now he's pleading guilty to all charges of premeditated murder. I don't believe this is a progression of lying, to telling the truth, and back to lying. I think it's a progression of outright lying, mostly lying, to finally telling the truth but without all the dirty details.

 

[scdiv]

I think it's important to realise that Chris's family are also victims of this terrible crime. How bewildering it must be to have your son admit to at LEAST killing his wife. They are clearly going through a grieving process, denial being a step to that. We are all fallible as humans...I am in no way defending Chris but let's ease up on his folks

Agree that they are also victims. But they lose me a bit when they start saying Shanann was verbally abusive. Denial is one thing - even understandable to some degree. But blaming the victim is pretty low. She didn't deserve to die no matter how much you didn't care for her. They want a reason how Shanann somehow triggered their son into doing this and I think that's what is rubbing the wrong way. But it is just a tragedy for both families. I wish they would help ease the pain instead of adding to it. Gitana1 mentioned Mark Hacking earlier in the thread - the statement his family gave was the exact opposite -

Hacking family statement

"To clear up some misconceptions about Mark's confession, it was reported Mark's brothers, Lance and Scott, were the ones who told authorities Mark had killed Lori. The reality is that on July 24, Lance confronted Mark with the evidence police had gathered and urged him to reveal where Lori's body was. He and Scott met with Mark that evening, at which time Mark confessed everything to them. His attorney was notified and instructed, by Mark, to provide information regarding Lori's whereabouts to the district attorney, an act which took place the following day. From that point on, it was never a matter of whether Mark would plead guilty but when he would do it based on the processes of the legal system. Mark resolved in August that he would never let his case be tried and informed his attorney of that decision."

Not that Mark Hacking is exactly honorable, but the family showed remorse and regret and sorrow for his victim and her family.

 

[k-mac]

They are saying he has been silenced, that he is not allowed to call them by his defense, that he is being lied to by his defense. They want him to know he has a lot of people supporting him and believe him.

'entitled' comes to mind when hearing this family speak.
the good part about 'entitled' beings they have big mouths ie Samantha markle and they create very big faux paus for themselves.
the more they stomp their feet about their personal injustice the more hated and unrelatable they become to the wider community.

chris's mother is hurting his cause now.
and I am totally ok with that

jmo

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I think it's important to realise that Chris's family are also victims of this terrible crime. How bewildering it must be to have your son admit to at LEAST killing his wife. They are clearly going through a grieving process, denial being a step to that. We are all fallible as humans...I am in no way defending Chris but let's ease up on his folks

I agree.

 

[Seattle1]

Vicious. Grotesque. Utterly false.

That’s how Shan’ann Watts‘ family is reportedly describing a recent interview by her killer husband’s parents in which they defended him and claimed his marriage was “very hard” and even abusive.

As Chris Watts' Parents Defend Him, Murdered Wife's Family Slams 'Grotesque & False Statements'

 

[Lady Justice21]

I think it's important to realise that Chris's family are also victims of this terrible crime. How bewildering it must be to have your son admit to at LEAST killing his wife. They are clearly going through a grieving process, denial being a step to that. We are all fallible as humans...I am in no way defending Chris but let's ease up on his folks

They absolutely are. I hope in their next interview they try something like our heads are still spinning. We just can't wrap our heads around any of this. We are devastated at the loss of SW, Cece, Bell, and Nico. We're heartbroken for SW's family.

We just can't see how CW could have done this. We have a lot to process and not sure how we will. We hope the community will keep everyone in their prayers. We have nothing to say that can bring back our loved ones and no further comment.

Then go home and grieve.

All my own opinion. If anyone knows the Watts, they're welcome to these words.