Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #49

[smucklecrumble]

200% agree. When the dad said, “if he did it I can live with that”, I thought on boy, she is going to lay into him after the interview for him conceding that he might be guilty.

My thought when he said that was that he can’t live with it, not with this level of denial post guilty plea.

 

[Madison418]

I'm usually up in the middle of the night with a newborn so while he eats, I peruse the forum.

[Awe, my son is a year now. I miss those days]

 

[TwoOfOne]

[Snipped for length.] The reporter asks, "Have you reconciled the idea that he could have done all of this?" And she says, "Yes... But I don't see why he is pleading guilty. I wouldn't. I'd fight. I'd fight to the end!"

This right here drives me CRAZY! So even "if" her precious snowflake committed the crime she wants him to fight the charges and drag his wife, his children and his wife's family through the mud. Good gods! That is completely and utterly reprehensible.

I'm sickened!

... I've been desperately trying to sleep, but I keep on dreaming about the girls. They are trapped inside the tanks, and for some reason they keep on slipping out of my arms. When we finally make it to the surface, I'm screaming and there is somebody else there to help pull them out, one at a time. We both start C.P.R., but even though sludge comes out of their angelic mouths, they are both gone.

We were too late.

This is when I completely loose my mind! Screaming, my throat is burning. Then I awaken in tears.

These little girls are not related to me, but their loss has hit something deep inside. They did not deserve to be murdered. Neither did baby Nico, and Shanann.

I cannot even begin to imagine what Shanann's family is going through! My heart and prayers go out to them.

 

[BrownRice]

I'm usually up in the middle of the night with a newborn so while he eats, I peruse the forum.

I wish WS was around back then for those d

[Awe, my son is a year now. I miss those days]

me too. Didn’t think I’d miss sleepless nights with a baby but I sure do.

That’s how I can’t even fathom this. I’m sure CW must remember bringing those babies home from the hospital and the pure love that takes over your heart. Sure parenting doesn’t feel like that every minute but you love your kids every minute. If that makes sense.

And after killing the first one how do you move on to the next. I just don’t cant won’t understand.

 

[TwoOfOne]

That’s how I can’t even fathom this: I’m sure CW must remember bringing those babies home from the hospital and the pure love that takes over your heart. Sure parenting doesn't feel like that every minute but you love your kids every minute.

And after killing the first one how do you move on to the next. I just don’t, can't, won’t understand.

This is why this hits the heart so strongly! Everyone with [normal] emotions and feelings find this so incomprehensible.

 

[Madison418]

I wish WS was around back then for those d

me too. Didn’t think I’d miss sleepless nights with a baby but I sure do.

That’s how I can’t even fathom this. I’m sure CW must remember bringing those babies home from the hospital and the pure love that takes over your heart. Sure parenting doesn’t feel like that every minute but you love your kids every minute. If that makes sense.

And after killing the first one how do you move on to the next. I just don’t cant won’t understand.

It makes total sense but it makes me wonder if he ever loved them at all So so sad

 

[MsBetsy]

Omg! This one is crazy. The reporter asks, "Have you reconciled the idea that he could have done all of this?" And she says, "Yes. And it scares me to death. But I don't see why he is pleading guilty. I wouldn't. I'd fight. I'd fight to the end!"
It's like she really does question if he does this, but she doesn't understand why he would plead guilty. Face palm.

Unbelievable. She might as well have said, "Well if I murdered Chris and his sister and father, I certainly would never admit it! I mean, how stupid can he be?!" Imo

 

[AbbyG]

This right here drives me CRAZY! So even "if" her precious snowflake committed the crime she wants him to fight the charges and drag his wife, his children and his wife's family through the mud. Good gods! That is completely and utterly reprehensible.
...

These little girls are not related to me, but their loss has hit something deep inside. They did not deserve to be murdered. Neither did baby Nico, and Shannon.


I cannot even begin to imagine what Shanann's family is going through! My heart and prayers go out to them.

It's so horrible. I do want to point out that since the charges against CW include "three counts of tampering with a deceased human body," this to me means there is no chance either of the girls were put into a tank alive. Cold comfort I know, but I recall your worrying about that and meant to post that. I think the autopsy will reveal his absolute guilt but more likely because he murdered his children by some other means or prior to murdering his wife.

 

[Madison418]

The Watts' family are not doing themselves, nor their son, any favors IMO. I have to wonder if the defense has contacted them at all regarding these interviews.

 

[Amonet]

The way I’m understanding it is they want a chance to talk alone with their son with nobody else present to interfere. In their minds CW’s attorneys have kept their son away from them. I could be wrong because I haven’t forgotten Jackie Peterson, who told Scott, “Deny, deny, deny,” but they haven’t had a chance to talk alone with their son for months. His father believed him when he said SW killed the girls and needs to hear directly from CW that he lied to him, SW didn’t do it, he did. And then they want to know what the trigger was. Would that satisfy them? I don’t know.

As the sessions with his parents were likely video recorded, I would think that even if CW is ready to tell his parents that he was lying to them before and telling the truth now that his attorneys would have to advise him not to admit to anything in those recorded conversations prior to the plea hearing or the actual sentencing.

But do you think it's possible that CW will do a Christian Longo and admit the truth after sentencing? I don't know if his parents will believe it even if it comes from his mouth, but maybe a combination of the evidence from the DA that gets released after sentencing plus hearing it straight from CW would help?

I'm more concerned that his mother professing her disbelief will encourage CW to go back to lying, in part because he doesn't really want to admit to what he's done and in part to save his mom from knowing the truth about him.

 

[AbbyG]

Unbelievable. She might as well have said, "Well if I murdered Chris and his sister and father, I certainly would never admit it! I mean, how stupid can he be?!" Imo

So true. Mind boggling. He really is saying yes he might have done it BUT he should still fight, fight, fight because she is proud of her own self being a liar and a fighter. This means no holds barred -- if one needs to concoct a fake letter to help his case, so be it, that's what fighters do and she will go down fighting however grotesque her son's deeds. IMO MOO

 

[Madison418]

I'm so anxious for sentencing on Monday. I just want it to come and be done so the families can move forward. (Hopefully CW's family will cease and desist after that point)

 

[smucklecrumble]

I'm so anxious for sentencing on Monday. I just want it to come and be done so the families can move forward. (Hopefully CW's family will cease and desist after that point)

Same....so ready for him to be sentenced and the CW supporters to be quieted

 

[medea13]

Omg! This one is crazy. The reporter asks, "Have you reconciled the idea that he could have done all of this?" And she says, "Yes. And it scares me to death. But I don't see why he is pleading guilty. I wouldn't. I'd fight. I'd fight to the end!"
It's like she really does question if he does this, but she doesn't understand why he would plead guilty. Face palm.

she says 'i want to fight FOR him'! I think she said that in the other interview I saw too! She is delusional and in complete denial. Gives us all some insight into CW, right?

 

[molly1255]

Unbelievable. She might as well have said, "Well if I murdered Chris and his sister and father, I certainly would never admit it! I mean, how stupid can he be?!" Imo

I'm not sure it really matters if he did it or not. I think the real issue is, they don't want him to pay the consequences. JMO

 

[scdiv]

I kind of laughed at that. Do Family Annihilators generally have a history of violence? I didn't think so. That's one of the main things that's scary about them-there often aren't any signs that they're going to do such a thing. Many, many people possess the characteristics of a FA but never commit any acts of violence. It's difficult to tell who's going to go off the deep end.

That's the one factor where I can understand how CW's parents would be in a total state of disbelief. It doesn't seem like CW showed any signs of violence. He showed lots of interaction and play with the girls. He was said to be quiet and laidback. I'm sure it is absolutely mind-boggling to wrap your mind around that your kid who showed no outward signs of aggression could do this.

So I can get the I just can't believe this or there must be an explanation reaction. I cannot get the trashing the victim your son killed. She just can't help herself. That is what is so telling of these interviews. It is not about the victims or her grandchildren at all. As others have said here, it's all about what she wants! She sounds like a toddler throwing a tantrum - "But I don't want him to take a plea!" "I want him to fight!"

And just the total lack of self-awareness of how they sound saying these things. So out of touch with reality. They don't even know enough to say the right things to the news reporters and then go rant and vent to each other off camera. I am irrationally angry about how ridiculous and nasty they sound.

And not going to a wedding is a BIG deal. *Most* people can put aside differences for one day to not ruin it for your children. There has been something off with this woman. She is not responsible for what CW did, but this is one dysfunctional family.

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

I'm not sure it really matters if he did it or not. I think the real issue is, they don't want him to pay the consequences. JMO

Bingo

 

[mrjitty]

The reason all those "books" get churned out on Amazon so quick is that are bogus content.

Not to name names but i checked a couple for the Pistorius case and they were padded out massively with personal accounts nothing to do with the case, wild speculation, epic cutting and pasting of public info and irrelevant peripheral info and then some am-dram creative writing and high school philosophy

I find it really distasteful that "true crime blogs" are enormous pages full of stolen photos from the victim's social media account and massive rips of other people's copyrighted material.

This passes as analysis apparently.

 

[violet101]

So what can happen at this point? Can a new lawyer contact CW and get him to reject plea and something will change before sentencing on Monday? Or would he just go back on plea at sentencing so we won’t find out till then?

 

[AbbyG]

The Watts' family are not doing themselves, nor their son, any favors IMO. I have to wonder if the defense has contacted them at all regarding these interviews.

It's so misguided. At best he will get a trial and then either life in prison or death penalty. No chance he will get less than that. But I think in addition to her magical thinking she would like the opportunity to slander his victim; she thinks that at trial she will somehow get to see her murderer son painted as a poor victim and she will help to see that his victim is dragged through the mud. Sick family, matriarch Watts is not a good person and neither is the dad. Their attack is indefensible. A frightened protective parent can still be empathetic to the victim and show more concern for the murdered grandchildren. These people are a big zero, and the sister sounds just as bad. IMO MOO.