Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #56

[pocketaccent]

How did anyone other than Chris, LE and the school know that Chris had called the school to unenroll Bella? Who told any of the friends, family?

Rourke said that during press conference (or in one of the interviews). I'm pretty sure that's what I heard.

 

[Best of What's Around]

Thank you posting the link to this article. I think we are all still needing and wanting more information beyond the recycled. The insight does help! So he was really careful about anything being recorded. This makes sense that he did not contact his parents or anyone.

Personally, I do not think that was the only reason he did not contact anyone, including his parents. After the plea hearing, certainly it would not matter much what he said to any of them and he still did not call to our knowledge. For whatever reason, he does not want to speak to his family, and I doubt he was close to anyone else. I believe that is why his mother tried so hard to speak to him and have him look at her at sentencing - she wants to establish contact with him again. I wonder whether he will do so or not. IMO

 

[Jupiter05]

RSBM

I'm curious what he told the school when he called. Not sure how it works in Co.

Where I live 5 is not compulsory, but if they are enrolled you can't pull them w/o giving the name of the school they'll be going to. They won't put the paperwork through without that information so I'm curious if he gave an excuse.

I wondered about that too. It was most likely pre-k, not kindergarten because Bella was only 4. It was a private nursery school.

 

[Jupiter05]

Personally, I do not think that was the only reason he did not contact anyone, including his parents. After the plea hearing, certainly it would not matter much what he said to any of them and he still did not call to our knowledge. For whatever reason, he does not want to speak to his family, and I doubt he was close to anyone else. I believe that is why his mother tried so hard to speak to him and have him look at her at sentencing - she wants to establish contact with him again. I wonder whether he will do so or not. IMO

He obviously was not a "sharing" type of person. Everyone needs a support system, except for him.

 

[Lore Listener]

Because she loves her daughter much more than she dislikes her new son-in-law and she hopes for the best. The wedding wasn't about her - it was about the couple getting married.

The worse part is my daughter and I have a very close relationship which I think is another thing that he has a hard time with.
Sorry to get off thread but I do appreciate your reply, I am not alone!

This is how loving, non-narcissist parents are supposed to act, and it's so important for many reasons. Not least of which is that if the relationship ever does go bad or get dangerous, the adult child knows they can go to their parents for support.

 

[sun16]

I agree with you, the DA made sure we knew, NK wiped her phone.
He also made it clear that NUA was a hero.
He wishes all, to understand how these people are involved.
MOO.

He is a total class act.

 

[Jupiter05]

Rourke said that during press conference (or in one of the interviews). I'm pretty sure that's what I heard.

I heard that as well.

 

[MsBetsy]

Wow. Just watched that video. From what I understand, Federal prison is like a country club compared to state prison. And CW is State. He will probably be in a maximum security prison and will not have any kind of a life. And as it should be. He deserves the dark hole. There is no rehabilitating this monster. Ans why would they? He will never be a part of our society again, thank goodness.

Yes, it's kind of ironic. He desperately wanted to start over with a new life. Now he's got one.

 

[Jupiter05]

Justification and dehumanization because he no longer wanted them.

His mother did not go to the wedding, not even try to show support. Something is amiss there. The family dynamic was toxic from day one. IMO.

 

[Tortoise]

Not a peep from his two close childhood friends who were still friends with him even today, according to Cindy Watts. Usually we hear from friends of the murderer after shocking cases such as these.

 

[Jupiter05]

NK does not have children.

Rumors were going around that she was married and had kids. Just more SM bs.

 

[LittleFleurDeLys]

I bet, if Frankie Jr was alone with CW he would do CW harm, with us all supporting Frankie.
Poor Frankie just didn't have a chance to get to CW, as within days, the Creep was arrested.
MOO.

CW deserves cleary the same treatment as his victims, including a long bath in crude oil. But unfortunately this will never happen. I'm sure that they all feel immense anger towards him (who would not?? even I do) but I'm glad for them, that nobody ever got to touch this creature. They would receive punishment sooner or later and I don't believe that this was worth it. Let's see what Chris' "playmates" in jail can do for him.

 

[x_files]

His mother did not go to the wedding, not even try to show support. Something is amiss there. The family dynamic was toxic from day one. IMO.

I wish SW RAN away before she married him. Probably felt bad for C because he complained about being abused or played the victim card.

 

[Jupiter05]

Yes, it's kind of ironic. He desperately wanted to start over with a new life. Now he's got one.

He sure does!

 

[MsBetsy]

How did anyone other than Chris, LE and the school know that Chris had called the school to unenroll Bella? Who told any of the friends, family?

I was wondering about that too. I can't remember when it was first mentioned or what the source was. If it was just a rumor, there sure was a lot of speculation about it. It must have come from a news source.
Another question I had is about the planning of the romantic getaway. There was some discussion about the fact that Shanann had planned this. But I did not realize we knew of the computer search until recently. Was that information leaked? How did people know about it?

 

[ab01]

Still makes me wonder what CW plan actually was..... I always assumed it was to murder his family sunday. Go to work monday and come home and dispose of any evidence and make it appear as though SW took off with the kids to start a new life. SW friend smashed those plans by alerting LE. But that leads me to the obvious? Why did CW call the school and pull Bella? Was he trying to make it look like SW pulled Bella? Did he text or email the school pretending to be SW? things i wish we knew!

 

[Lore Listener]

His mother did not go to the wedding, not even try to show support. Something is amiss there. The family dynamic was toxic from day one. IMO.

Right! Even if Shanann really was terrible, which everyone hopefully now understands is the exact opposite of the truth, not attending the wedding would do nothing to remedy that whatsoever. It was a blatant move by Mother and Sister Watts to re-exert dominance and control. Sometimes I think of Shanann as a butterfly who unknowingly flew into the web of a nest of spiders.

 

[MsBetsy]

Rourke said that during press conference (or in one of the interviews). I'm pretty sure that's what I heard.

I think the question was how did the information get out long before this. I wondered the same. Obviously someone was leaking information from the investigation. Imo

 

[Noreen McGurl]

I have some catching up to do but in my honest opinion there's definitely some and I hate to say the word insanity, because it is (ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE) in this family ...but there are actions here that are definitely not normal and I do believe,based on what I have viewed, that he was always treated like a child by at least his mother and then Shannan, caring motherly person that she was/is forever will be, tried to take care of him and just like a child when he got tired of his toys he wanted to throw them out and that's how he viewed his beautiful loving family and that is not normal behavior.... actually I'm surprised they didn't go with the insanity plea, but then again i think whole family totally effed in the head!!

 

[k-mac]

NK does not have children.

yes I know this
don't have a clue what relevance this has to my post you tagged.