GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #68

[BioInspector]

Replying to myself, but if you don't want to watch the whole video, start at 10 minutes. You can clearly see both shadows of the girls and CW picking them up and putting them in the truck.

However, that video contains a loop. The full footage really only shows one clear instance of shadows moving towards him and CW bending down to pick up what seems to be a child and then turn towards the truck. The original video footage posted to youtube was spliced together and contains several loops.
I believe the youtube video called "CHRIS WATTS FILES: SECURITY CAM FOOTAGE OF WATTS"
may have been the first one (Posted in early December), it has tons of loops throughout the video, and everyone that subsequently pieced together videos of their own from that video source, incorporated all the same loops.

 

[Love Never Fails]

If he profiled as a serial killer, then I’d absolutely agree with you.

He doesn’t though.

He killed for a purpose, and it wasn’t for some sexual thrill.

He is a family annihilator, who wanted a new life.

A serial killer craves attention, and would take great satisfaction in reliving his crimes, and getting a rise out of those he interacts with.

This guy wouldn’t.

He’s not the same.

You are right about serial killers MG, but CW is a narcissist and what else does he have to do in prison except to torture Shanaan’s family? I think he is loving this and being a narcissist it makes it all about him once more.

 

[MassGuy]

So when the lawyer says he puts her in a dirt pile next to the truck... is it implying the hole was already dug or he dug when he got there and girls saw?

No, if he was implying that the hole was already dug, that would be a very big deal.

I think the implication is that he put Shanann on the ground, killed and disposed of the girls, then buried Shanann.

I think the order didn’t change from his initial confession, just the fact that the kids were still alive when they arrived.

 

[violet101]

Where is the info they had sex that night after a fight coming from? I didn't hear that on Dr. Phil.

This interview: Dr. Phil McGraw – A Preview of a Special 2 Part Dr. Phil Exclusive: Chris Watts’ Full Confession; His Daughter’s Final Words

 

[MassGuy]

You are right about serial killers MG, but CW is a narcissist and what else does he have to do in prison except to torture Shanaan’s family? I think he is loving this and being a narcissist it makes it all about him once more.

I believe the story that he believes he has “found God.”

He has many of the same traits as a serial killer does, but not the same ones when it comes to tormenting people after the fact.

We saw the face saving during his first “confession,” and his actions now jibe with the fact that he’s not going to contest the wrongful death lawsuit.

He’s taken Shanann off the hook, isn’t forcing the family to go through the civil trial process, and apparently wants to clear the air.

He’s still a vile monster who is likely doing this for self serving reasons, but these actions don’t seem to be intent on hurting the family more.

 

[Gardenista]

Oh no -- I was just listening to Dr Phil, not watching and missed it! Can you advise how many minutes in so I can watch?

But of course. Start looking about 27 minutes in. It's the one of her in the bathing suit.

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[Tigerlily75]

If he profiled as a serial killer, then I’d absolutely agree with you.

He doesn’t though.

He killed for a purpose, and it wasn’t for some sexual thrill.

He is a family annihilator, who wanted a new life.

A serial killer craves attention, and would take great satisfaction in reliving his crimes, and getting a rise out of those he interacts with.

This guy wouldn’t.

He’s not the same.

Agree. This wasn’t a thrill kill. This was merely a practicality for him in that he wanted his family gone.

 

[mtnlites]

I believe the story that he believes he has “found God.”

He has many of the same traits as a serial killer does, but not the same ones when it comes to tormenting people after the fact.

We saw the face saving during his first “confession,” and his actions now jibe with the fact that he’s not going to contest the wrongful death lawsuit.

He’s taken Shanann off the hook, isn’t forcing the family to go through the civil trial process, and apparently wants to clear the air.

He’s still a vile monster who is likely doing this for self serving reasons, but these actions don’t seem to be intent on hurting the family more.

I gotta be honest, as vile as he is I am not sure he has the mental capacity to torture them like that. I think he lacks empathy to some extent and I can see narcissism, but in that narcissism I can also see that projecting a certain kind of image is important to him. He wants to be the "good guy". I could see him thinking that this WAS him being the "good guy." After all, he finally told the families the truth.(I say this with a little sarcasm, but I think his mind might actually work that way. I'm just not feeling a torture vibe from him like that. Other things, though...)

 

[they'll get you]

Was there something said that Shannon said something and it got him in a rage and that's what started all of this?

Ah see it’s not his fault but Shannon for saying whatever.

He’s playing everyone again just like he did on the porch. Smiling, sucking on his lips stifling a smile and even laughing. Is that what he did in this interview as well?

I really don’t want to give that cretin any further encouragement.
Let him rot unless Big Bubba gets to him first.

 

[Artis]

Replying to myself, but if you don't want to watch the whole video, start at 10 minutes. You can clearly see both shadows of the girls and CW picking them up and putting them in the truck.

AD is vindicated. I had watched his video a few times but this one looks clearer. It is twice.

BTW, did anyone else catch, in the Dr Phil interview, where one of the lawyers said CW was interviewed in conjunction with someone else being investigated? He said it and then got cagey about it, saying he couldn't say any more.

I've never been one to have thought you know who had anything to do with the murders but who else could it possibly be that investigators might be looking at?

 

[MassGuy]

I gotta be honest, as vile as he is I am not sure he has the mental capacity to torture them like that. I think he lacks empathy to some extent and I can see narcissism, but in that narcissism I can also see that projecting a certain kind of image is important to him. He wants to be the "good guy". I could see him thinking that this WAS him being the "good guy." After all, he finally told the families the truth.(I say this with a little sarcasm, but I think his mind might actually work that way. I'm just not feeling a torture vibe from him like that. Other things, though...)

Yeah. He cares so much about what people think of him, that I think he is now motivated to salvage his reputation, and change his image.

Good fricken luck with that.

This is still selfish, but it isn’t about inflicting more damage.

He wants to be seen as the good guy by telling the truth.

Unfortunately for him, the truth makes him look even worse.

He wants redemption. He ain’t gonna get it.

 

[they'll get you]

I am not believing his story. I think he made this up to terrify Shanaan’s family even more. I believe he is enjoying all the attention once again. He is that evil to torture them some more. It can even be true he enjoys torturing his own family.

If only he realised he would be on death row if it wasn’t for Shannan’s parents.

I wonder if they are regretting their decision.

 

[MassGuy]

AD is vindicated. I had watched his video a few times but this one looks clearer. It is twice.

BTW, did anyone else catch, in the Dr Phil interview, where one of the lawyers said CW was interviewed in conjunction with someone else being investigated? He said it and then got cagey about it, saying he couldn't say any more.

I've never been one to have thought you know who had anything to do with the murders but who else could it possibly be that investigators might be looking at?

I think it may have been a bluff on the part of law enforcement.

I think it’s clear that this person is NK, but that doesn’t mean that she is actually being investigated.

The lawyers added that she hasn’t been interviewed again, as far as they know.

 

[nwmouse]

But of course. Start looking about 27 minutes in. It's the one of her in the bathing suit.

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Ah, thank you! Yep, she's wearing her black bikini panties and squeezing her cheeks together.
I totally see what you mean about her trying not to let a f@rt escape!

Thank you for this bit of levity because I'm sickened at what this monster has confessed to.

How dared he even SAY Bella and Cece's names after he murdered them in cold blood?

Toddlers are a lot more savvy and aware than we give them credit for.

Its horrifying that Bella's last minutes on earth were witnessing her mommy being wrapped in a sheet (I think she KNEW something was terribly wrong but didn't know how to process it because she's an innocent 4 year old) and her sister being smothered to death, and then begging her "hero daddy" not to do to her what he did to Cece. How can a parent do this?

I hope CW lives a waking Groundhog Day nightmare in prison every day, for the rest of his worthless life.

And if his parents and other family members still stick up for him after these revelations, they are even worse than I thought they were. If he were my son I'd never speak to him again and I'd beg SW's family for forgiveness.

moo

 

[they'll get you]

Yeah. He cares so much about what people think of him, that I think he is now motivated to salvage his reputation, and change his image.

Good fricken luck with that.

This is still selfish, but it isn’t about inflicting more damage.

He wants to be seen as the good guy by telling the truth.

Unfortunately for him, the truth makes him look even worse.

He wants redemption. He ain’t gonna get it.

I want to ‘like’ this post 10 times!

 

[MassGuy]

Ah, thank you! Yep, she's wearing her black bikini panties and squeezing her cheeks together.
I totally see what you mean about her trying not to let a f@rt escape!

Thank you for this bit of levity because I'm sickened at what this monster has confessed to.

How dared he even SAY Bella and Cece's names after he murdered them in cold blood?

Toddlers are a lot more savvy and aware than we give them credit for.

Its horrifying that Bella's last minutes on earth were witnessing her mommy being wrapped in a sheet (I think she KNEW something was terribly wrong but didn't know how to process it because she's an innocent 4 year old) and her sister being smothered to death, and then begging her "hero daddy" not to do to her what he did to Cece. How can a parent do this?

I hope CW lives a waking Groundhog Day nightmare in prison every day, for the rest of his worthless life.

And if his parents and other family members still stick up for him after these revelations, they are even worse than I thought they were. If he were my son I'd never speak to him again and I'd beg SW's family for forgiveness.

moo

I’m not holding my breath when it comes to his parents.

They’ve probably already forgiven him.

Again!

 

[PommyMommy]

AD is vindicated. I had watched his video a few times but this one looks clearer. It is twice.

BTW, did anyone else catch, in the Dr Phil interview, where one of the lawyers said CW was interviewed in conjunction with someone else being investigated? He said it and then got cagey about it, saying he couldn't say any more.

I've never been one to have thought you know who had anything to do with the murders but who else could it possibly be that investigators might be looking at?

I don't think he was being cagey. He simply said they weren't that close to the investigation. IOW, he doesn't know.
MOO

 

[liltexans]

I'm going to start a new thread. Can someone kindly tell me which posts you want copied over to the new thread?

Thank you!

 

[nwmouse]

I’m not holding my breath when it comes to his parents.

They’ve probably already forgiven him.

Again!

They forgive him because they still WANT to believe its Shanann's fault and that he was driven to commit these disgusting crimes because of her.

I doubt his parents will ever self-evaluate and they still see their precious son as a "victim".
Sickening -- a baby Norman Bates who grew into a monstrous wife and child killer.

Crime of passion my foot. It was cold, calculating pre-meditation. He had it all planned (poorly) and figured out.

Wanting to sell the house immediately after his wife "disappeared", looking at Audi Q7's etc.

Yup, there is ZERO doubt in my mind that this was all premeditated by CW. He's evil, stupid and a coward.

He needs to rot in a prison cell and feel fear every day for the rest of his pathetic life.

moo.

 

[Artis]

I don't think he was being cagey. He simply said they weren't that close to the investigation. IOW, he doesn't know.
MOO

But he did say they were looking at another person, right?