Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 #80 *arrest*

[10ofRods]

Shorter Plunder video talking about Suzanne's inheritance and money from the court Transcripts

After listening to the longer Plunder video about Suzanne's conversations about Barry with Sheila and then this one talking about her inheritance, I think so much more was said in in the court than what has been tweeted and reported. Since so much of this is establishing patterns and getting background and the little details, it's so easy to miss the full feeling of the courtroom when we just get tweets. I think it was CLEALY established that he was controlling and her conversations with Shelia for the past 2 years before she went missing make that very clear! Also, not only was her inheritance used in the house, but also investing in silver.

I agree. I want to read them both again. I hadn't realized how much of SO there was, from just the tweets.

 

[Murphy1950]

Still hunting it. If I can find it we can compare it to other pics of those mountains.

You are doing a great job with maps and postings etc @sk716

14:20
that exact spot
14:22
uh we went up there today and guess what
14:25
there's no bluff on the other side of
14:27
that hill
14:28
there's bluffs all over up there all

 

[justtrish]

I agree. I want to read them both again. I hadn't realized how much of SO there was, from just the tweets.

Yes! I got the feeling that Suzanne didn't mention the affair and it almost seemed as if she barely mentioned the abuse because we really only got the text to her sister where she said she was afraid and then her sister taking time to think about it. I don't know that just made it seem like she didn't talk about the abuse at all or it was implied, but never really seen/known about. Well I feel very differently about it after listening to those texts between her and Sheila from all the way back to early 2019 or some may have been in 2918, but definately in the time since they were in Colorado. From the odd way he behaved when Sheila visited and then it was mentioned briefly also when Suzanne and Barry were visiting for Thankgiving (not sure if 2018 or 2019) and Suzanne went to the bathroom and Barry called several people in short succession looking for her to something like that. I was like WHAT?

Also HUGE note is Sheila knew Barry was so worried about their image and how others saw him. When people question why Barry "let" her go on vacations if he was so controlling, we have to think bigger.. he was calculated. He knew how to make it look good from the outside and that was his concern. So of course he "let" her go to girls trips. He didn't want to be seen as the controlling husband he was. I am sure Suzanne paid for it in other ways.

 

[sk716]

14:20
that exact spot
14:22
uh we went up there today and guess what
14:25
there's no bluff on the other side of
14:27
that hill
14:28
there's bluffs all over up there all

They refer to the area as White Pines, Whitepine is a little town a couple of miles west of Maysville and on the other side of Monarch and Bald Mountain. Going to start looking there.

 

[al66pine]

CO. Victims' Rights Act.

Wouldn't SM's family have to agree to a plea deal too?
Or at least have a say so about it?

@Quiet Time

CO law* definitions.
"Critical stage" at which victims have a right to be heard includes stage:
"(II) At which the court accepts a plea of nolo contendere;
(III) At which the court accepts a negotiated plea agreement." bbm
& more specified stages. (For some other stages, victims have the right be informed, but not the right to be present or to be heard).

"Victims" of homicide include "the person's spouse, parent, legal guardian, child, sibling, grandparent, grandchild, significant other, or other lawful representative."
So imo, both SM's daughters, SM's brothers, & sister (or plural?).

-- No, imo, SM's family would not have to "agree" to a plea agreement.
-- But imo both SM's daughters, & SM's brothers, & sister(s) could "have a say" by speaking at court hearing in which judge accepts a negotiated plea agreement (that is, hypo only, if state & def reach a PA, or if BM changes plea to nolo, again hypo only). my2ct

ETA: Just getting caught up on reading thread, so my post has some overlap w excellent post 723 by @CGray123 which said:
"To be present and heard regarding bond reduction or modification, a subpoena for the victim’s records, acceptance of a plea agreement, sentencing or modification of a sentence, any request modification to the “no contact” provision or criminal protection order or the petition for expungement;"
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* 2016 Colorado Revised Statutes :: Title 24 - :: Government - State :: Administration :: Article 4.1 - :: Crime Victim Compensation and Victim and Witness Rights :: Part 3 - :: Guidelines for Assuring the Rights of Victims of and Witnesses to Crimes
See also The Rights of Crime Victims in Colorado The Role and Responsibilities of the Court. Revised Nov 2019.
https://cdpsdocs.state.co.us/dcj/DCJ External Website/OVP/Courts responsibilities under VRA.pdf
Crime Victim Rights Act (VRA) | Division of Criminal Justice

 

[sk716]

A visual aid @OldCop and @Trackergd can appreciate. I went looking for a fire road map and found the Forest Service map of recreation areas.

The white dotted lines are park roads. Note that there is next to no access to Pahlone via car or truck especially on the sides closest to Puma Path.

 

[Aloe]

Yet - stepbrother has Barry carrying an entire elk.

Suzanne weighed about 100 pounds, maybe a little more. I believe Barry had an ATV with a game trailer, but I'm not sure he needed it for body disposal (MOO). He could surely have carried her on his shoulders - although I agree with you that it wasn't up to the top of a mountain.

If he did premeditate this crime, he thought about where he was going to put her and how to carry her. Since I believe she was alive when he took her to her final resting place, he would not have to worry about rigor mortis.

A full body game bag of proper construction is designed to be slung over a person's back. If Barry could indeed haul even half of an elk at one time on his back, he surely could haul Suzanne.

 

[marylamby]

I posted this here:
CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #73 *ARREST*

"And we learned from the Unmasked podcast that BM was obsessive about looking at his cameras and trail cams - something important with these cameras IMO
Courtesy @Ontario Mom
31:22
“something that one of the co-workers of
barrie told me uh when i interviewed them
they said that he was constantly
checking his game cameras and his
cameras at the home
and so when i had heard that you know
the surveillance cameras at his home weren't working
i mean obviously in the courtroom we
found out i mean we don't know who
you know the defense is saying suzanne
pulled the plug on the cables
um but it's like
it i mean that's something that these
co-workers who worked with him every
single day said that he was constantly checking and
so for them to not be working is very interesting”

You're so freaking cool, Oviedo!

 

[justtrish]

@oviedo That is interesting. I wonder what it is he needed to see on his camera. I doubt Suzanne would have brought JL to her home. Was he spying on her only or his daughters as well? Did he need to know who was there and when, when people were leaving and maybe calling to see if they were honest or lying about being home or leaving. I don't think this was only to spy on wild animals in the area. Was he worried about something else or someone else?

What has he mentioned.. the campground, a mountain lion, a stranger abduction, her running off. I think there are pieces of truth in what he says, but instead of it being how he says it is, some other truth is real.

My this case is just a mess of trickery. He was messed up, in some ways she was messed up (not at all trying to victim shame, just stating she was doing things that messy up the case in trying to sort it out), and the larger family itself was a little messy. I guess what family isn't a little messy. I really give these detectives credit for sorting it all out. Suzanne deserves justice!

 

[10ofRods]

I want to drop this here because it matters to the timeline. Sunset on May 9th was at 8:03pm.

The hikers and bikers seem to clear the trails around sunset so Barry would not have been able to put her on the four wheeler and head out until the sun was down.

Do you think bicyclists/hikers coming down the hill would notice and remember a man with a duffle bag over his shoulder? Perhaps wearing a COVID mask? Just a hypothetical.

At any rate, I think he did drive a bit away from PP, to a spot he knew.

 

[Seattle1]

Still hunting it. If I can find it we can compare it to other pics of those mountains.

This is the PE video where AM describes the scene of BM dropping to the ground overlooking the bluff:

 

[al66pine]

CO. Victims' Rights Act.

So we can expect to see consultation with both daughters.
The way I read the CO VRA is that only the daughters would qualify (unless Suzanne had set up a will leaving some of her estate to her siblings or other relatives). I find it highly improbable that Suzanne did that.

@10ofRods bbm
First, agreeing that prosecutor will likely "consult" both dau's at some stages of crim proceedings re SM's death. I doubt that any prosecutor wants to be surprised, for ex. by a fam member of deceased ranting in court about how the sentence or plea agreement is totally unfair, either too harsh or too lenient. So "consult?" Okay practically speaking, altho CO VRA language largely addressses right to be informed, right to be present, and victims' right to be heard in court at critical stages.

Second, not sure that only the daughters qualify as "victims" in homicide case. Seems SM's siblings are also included in both "victims" and "victims' immediate family" definitions,* so seems they qualify for various rights under CO VRA imo. If the act excludes them, I've missed it or misread those sections. Or maybe another CO law addresses victim impact statements that victims, including siblings, may make, but I'm puzzled about why that issue would hinge on whether the deceased left them gifts by will.

Could happen, heading to the kitchen for more coffee.
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* 24-4.1-302. Definitions.
"(5) "Victim" means any natural person against whom any crime has been perpetrated or attempted, unless the person is accountable for the crime or a crime arising from the same conduct, or plan as crime is defined under the laws of this state or of the United States, or, if such person is deceased or incapacitated, the person's spouse, parent, legal guardian, child, sibling, grandparent, grandchild, significant other, or other lawful representative."
"(6) "Victim's immediate family" means the spouse, any child by birth or adoption, any stepchild, the parent, the stepparent, a sibling, a legal guardian, significant other, or a lawful representative of the victim..."

 

[sk716]

Do you think bicyclists/hikers coming down the hill would notice and remember a man with a duffle bag over his shoulder? Perhaps wearing a COVID mask? Just a hypothetical.

At any rate, I think he did drive a bit away from PP, to a spot he knew.

I do. I've watched a lot of trail videos in the last couple of days and the trails tend to be thin enough that hikers (and their dogs) have to step off the trail so that bikes can pass. They tend to greet/acknowledge each other. A guy on an ATV with a bundle big enough to be a body would be probably stick out, he would have to have started out after he moved the truck at 9:25pm and closed the truck door at 9:52pm. That gives him almost 5 hours until he (probably accidentally) dialed Suzanne's phone at 2:53am. If I'm right, though, her phone isn't with her body because it pinged off the Poncha Springs tower at 4:30am.

I've gotten in trouble before for wanting to know a general area where MG lived, but I think he might have dumped SMs phone when he was at MGs at 5am-ish. Another attempt to frame his crew.

MOO

 

[sk716]

@oviedo That is interesting. I wonder what it is he needed to see on his camera. I doubt Suzanne would have brought JL to her home. Was he spying on her only or his daughters as well? Did he need to know who was there and when, when people were leaving and maybe calling to see if they were honest or lying about being home or leaving. I don't think this was only to spy on wild animals in the area. Was he worried about something else or someone else?

What has he mentioned.. the campground, a mountain lion, a stranger abduction, her running off. I think there are pieces of truth in what he says, but instead of it being how he says it is, some other truth is real.

My this case is just a mess of trickery. He was messed up, in some ways she was messed up (not at all trying to victim shame, just stating she was doing things that messy up the case in trying to sort it out), and the larger family itself was a little messy. I guess what family isn't a little messy. I really give these detectives credit for sorting it all out. Suzanne deserves justice!

I think in this case we're talking about a hunter obsessively watching his trail cams because he'd rather be hunting. I know a lot of guys who do that in the off-season. Around here (Arkansas) it's perfectly legal to use deer corn and the guys put the cameras on their deer leases right by the deer corn so they can watch the growth progress.

 

[mom2chloe]

Do you think bicyclists/hikers coming down the hill would notice and remember a man with a duffle bag over his shoulder? Perhaps wearing a COVID mask? Just a hypothetical.

At any rate, I think he did drive a bit away from PP, to a spot he knew.

I only disagree with the fact that Barry may have worn a mask. We know he didn’t like seatbelts while driving so I have a hard time imagining him sporting a Covid mask. Furthermore I wouldn’t be surprised to learn he refused to wear a mask despite Suzanne’s cancer treatments combined with Covid. Oh Suzanne…IMO
Listen, the rules do not apply to me. IMO

 

[sk716]

This is the ATV that was at the condo Barry was arrested. I don't recall that he bought/sold one in the interim so it's probably the same one he would have used. I know very little about these things (nearly killed too many friends so I steer clear) so I need an assist in identifying a make and model for some scientific calculations ...

Photobucket

 

[Seattle1]

CO. Victims' Rights Act.
@10ofRods bbm
First, agreeing that prosecutor will likely "consult" both dau's at some stages of crim proceedings re SM's death. I doubt that any prosecutor wants to be surprised, for ex. by a fam member of deceased ranting in court about how the sentence or plea agreement is totally unfair, either too harsh or too lenient. So "consult?" Okay practically speaking, altho CO VRA language largely addressses right to be informed, right to be present, and victims' right to be heard in court at critical stages.

Second, not sure that only the daughters qualify as "victims" in homicide case. Seems SM's siblings are also included in both "victims" and "victims' immediate family" definitions,* so seems they qualify for various rights under CO VRA imo. If the act excludes them, I've missed it or misread those sections. Or maybe another CO law addresses victim impact statements that victims, including siblings, may make, but I'm puzzled about why that issue would hinge on whether the deceased left them gifts by will.

Could happen, heading to the kitchen for more coffee.
_________________________________
* 24-4.1-302. Definitions.
"(5) "Victim" means any natural person against whom any crime has been perpetrated or attempted, unless the person is accountable for the crime or a crime arising from the same conduct, or plan as crime is defined under the laws of this state or of the United States, or, if such person is deceased or incapacitated, the person's spouse, parent, legal guardian, child, sibling, grandparent, grandchild, significant other, or other lawful representative."
"(6) "Victim's immediate family" means the spouse, any child by birth or adoption, any stepchild, the parent, the stepparent, a sibling, a legal guardian, significant other, or a lawful representative of the victim..."

^^bbm

In states where victims have been permitted to provide input into plea agreements, the right has typically been granted at two stages of the criminal justice process: (1) when conferring with the prosecutor during plea bargaining and (2) when addressing the court, either orally or in writing (i.e., victim impact statement) before the entry of the plea.

However, please take note that in no state, including Colorado, is the right to confer interpreted as the right to direct the prosecution of the case or to veto decisions of the prosecutor. This case will always be the People of Colorado vs Barry Morphew.

MOO

 

[RIPRM]

Where were the 85 chipmunk carcasses when LE showed up to look for a missing Suzanne?
We haven't heard of a gruesome scene of small bloody animal explosions upon arrival at PP.
That would be some major clean up.

(Assuming you are being serious) It was NOT 85 in one afternoon. "#BarryMorphew didn't shoot 85 chipmunks all at once."

source:
https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1429809514954514436?s=21

 

[DizzyB]

I haven't seen that pic. Will check the timeline and see if I can find the pic.

It was on the Profiling Evil website. I looked for it there, because I remembered it being there, and could not find it. I found a screenshot of it elsewhere, but obviously cannot post. The photo had been sent to Chris-I wonder if it was taken down when Mike and Chris parted ways?
I am also looking for the Beverly Hillbillies trailer photo before the move to Colorado. I wonder if that’s also a Chris/Mike thing. I can’t find it, and I really wish I could have another look at what was on that trailer.

 

[sk716]

It was on the Profiling Evil website. I looked for it there, because I remembered it being there, and could not find it. I found a screenshot of it elsewhere, but obviously cannot post. The photo had been sent to Chris-I wonder if it was taken down when Mike and Chris parted ways?
I am also looking for the Beverly Hillbillies trailer photo before the move to Colorado. I wonder if that’s also a Chris/Mike thing. I can’t find it, and I really wish I could have another look at what was on that trailer.

I have screencapped the swan dive photo and I uploaded but it was removed. I've been looking for the trailer pic again, too. I can't remember if the ATV was on it.