Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 #80 *arrest*

[10ofRods]

I feel like Barry was minimizing Suzanne’s contribution in the marriage with the ATM comment. I will await further information as to whether he withheld funds, or if he meant that he was the sole breadwinner. I’m thinking he believed that as the man of the house, he was entitled to make all the decisions. I bet that what Barry decided was usually the rule in the house. Suzanne drove a nice SUV, had beautiful clothes, and went on many trips without Barry. I think he probably believed that he could grant or deny Suzanne’s spending as he saw fit.

I believe what he meant, precisely, is that Suzanne had no access to cash unless he gave it to her. That's what he meant and that's how I think most people would take that comment. She didn't need an ATM card.

This is a really common tactic of the controlling, abusive spouse. It does beg the question of how Suzanne funded her GreenDot account. I suspect she had ways around him - especially since he looks so disorganized. I'm guessing those pendaflex folders held Suzanne's work for his business as well as their personal life. She did the filing - I am not sure he withheld statements from her, someone had to file taxes at some time. By filing, I mean the physical work of opening things, throwing away inserts, and then properly filing them. It was part of her household duty.

He gets concerned that he has no clue about her system and realizes after she's gone that he has no one to yell at, with his urgent questions how about how much he spent on this or that landscaping job/purchase. His urgent questions about their personal funds (how much cash did he actually have??) would have been high on his list of priorities at that time.

 

[10ofRods]

I have always thought the same about those texts. Why would

I have always thought the same about those texts. Why would she say that he is always gone like that? I would think she would be thrilled that he was gone, not disappointed about it. Some of her texts sound to me like someone else sent them.....like Barry was sending them from an iPad or something impersonating Suzanne? I know that has been mentioned before as a possibility. Our apple account is all screwy- my SO's texts come across my laptop. I can reply to them if I know he is unavaialble.

I would be curious how many times a day Barry normally changes clothes also. MG would know if changing his clothes as many times as he did in Broomfield is his norm.

I agree that he may have carried her on foot to bury her in a prepared place. He looked strong as an ox back then.

The leaving of the house as a control maneuver is different than just having your irritating husband be gone. Of course, there's initial relief. But if you live with an abusive, controlling, ATM-card holding man, your mind goes many places. What is his plan? His scheme? What will he do next? Will he get into an explosive quarrel in town with some other person? Will he come back and not speak for a few days? What's he going to do to you?

It's interesting to me (and this was my. only personal experience as well), that most women do not take these opportunities to leave, themselves. The financial control is a big part of that - the woman thinks she can squirrel away some money for the "next time" he tantrums out of the house. Leaving for "days" at a time is a serious tactic in a marriage (esp. if your spouse has no way of getting hold of you). Women fear that if they do leave, they'll never get back into the house and will not have enough funds to survive, much less hire a lawyer.

That's when women finally start reaching out to family members...

except for the phones IMEI number which is the device identifying number that one enters when registering on a phone network. that number is traceable across any SIM change.

True, but if you pay cash for a burner, and register the initial SIM under a fake name with a fake address, well, that's what keeps local LE's digital crimes investigators so busy. One would first have to know that Barry even had such a device. If it is purchased for cash, just what, exactly about the IME1 number would lead further than the door of the business (or booth or swap meet) where it was purchased??

 

[Seattle1]

I have always thought the same about those texts. Why would she say that he is always gone like that? I would think she would be thrilled that he was gone, not disappointed about it. Some of her texts sound to me like someone else sent them.....like Barry was sending them from an iPad or something impersonating Suzanne? I know that has been mentioned before as a possibility. Our apple account is all screwy- my SO's texts come across my laptop. I can reply to them if I know he is unavaialble.

^^RSBM

Take note we are only seeing one side of the text convo.

I think it's easy to take comments out of context without full disclosure. SM's comment may be a direct reply to a comment/question by JL.

 

[Charlot123]

Regarding prelim transcripts, where do we stand right now? Is there some way to add a feature to the thread for donations? Should be easy to raise $321 and end some speculation with the exact words of LE in court. I would donate.
@jondaba - Please weigh in here.
Thanks!

I am in. I never did it so, need instructions (the link and also, how to download here.

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

It’s ironic that Barry will become a felon, especially because his admonishment of Jeff Puckett was for the same. I doubt Barry has the self-awareness to realize it.

 

[Seattle1]

I am in. I never did it so, need instructions (the link and also, how to download here.

I also suggest contacting the county clerk for more details -- especially whether or not OP intent/method to distribute the content is allowed.

Transcript Requests: Please fax, mail or submit in person the following form, for transcript requests in Chaffee County. Transcript Form

Colorado Judicial Branch - Chaffee County - Homepage

 

[jondaba]

We’ll know when we see the AA.

 

[DellaC]

Someone asked LS about the size of the tree bucket ( she and her photographer SH had seen still pictures in Court taken from the surveillance film). They compared it to the water jugs you see at sporting events.

At 31:50

Thanks, @Cindizzi. I remembered something during the PH discussion where someone--don't remember if LE or WS poster--mentioned a larger diameter pot. Lauren seems pretty clear here.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I think the ATM comment was Barry saying he was the revenue producer. And I intentionally am not guessing on the Murder 1 charge because for me right now it is a crap shoot. The voter fraud is a completely separate case. And of the primary case the only charge that is perhaps without question is the short barrel that he never registered in Colorado or is perhaps legal in Indiana but not Colorado..I don’t recall the specifics.

 

[jondaba]

Regarding prelim transcripts, where do we stand right now? Is there some way to add a feature to the thread for donations? Should be easy to raise $321 and end some speculation with the exact words of LE in court. I would donate.
@jondaba - Please weigh in here.
Thanks!

I’m ready. We need WS to give us a thread or address or something. Lauren S is on the spot ?

 

[JosieMae]

I think that perhaps rather than omitting it from his timeline, he tried to claim it was done at a time that fit his alibi but that LE knew is incorrect. Remember it was the "when" aspect that BM said he forgot, not the "mechanical thing" itself. IMO

I've always been confused by this. I agree with you about forgetting the time in order to bolster his alibi. But what I can't figure out is how an earlier or later time would fit his alibi.

Can you help me with this? Thanks!

 

[Boxer]

BM = ATM?
@Spartygirl Thx for your post.
As BM's stmt seems flip imo, I'm curious about LE's exact questions & BM's exact words in interviews. Maybe at trial we'll hear.

If BM wanted to force SM to ask him for $ then no ATM card, no debit card, but IDK if she had to grovel for every dime, maybe not.
Imo, likely LE could tell by account actvity in monthly statements, if SM had ATM or debit card that BM knew about.

ATM card? If BM wanted to control $ amt, ATM card w fixed daily cash w/d limits would help w. $ limit but would not reveal what SM purchased.
Debit car for purchases? If BM wanted to know what SM bought, 'allowing her' to have a debit card would (generally) let him know. If there were 'masked' debits (such as Venmo, PayPal), he could ask/demand info from her.
Combo card?

If SM did not have either type of card (or checkwriting auth.), makes BM out to be a Controller Extraordinaire. my2ct
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"Barry claimed .... when she needed money she went to him. He was her ATM" from link.
Morphew: Hearing continues with questioning of FBI agent

An ATM that has proclaimed himself a tightwad. Not pleasant to ask for money, probably near impossible after a fight. Think about your inheritamce being locked up by a person that considers themselves not only your bank, but your master.

She was raised Methodist and expected fundamental rights, but he was raised Baptist and it is clear he thought she was bound to him as a subordinate for life.

SOUTHERN BAPTISTS APPROVE SUBMISSIVE WIVES DOCTRINE


Methodists are strict about divorce, especially of who is at fault and committed adultery.
But in the end, they accept irreperable damage and alienation as legitmate reasons for divorce.

 

[marylamby]

I don’t see him staying in Colorado no matter the outcome. Also Colorado guidelines most serve no more than and sometimes less than 50% of their sentence.

When a prisoner is paroled, do they not have to stay within the state and need special permission to leave the state for, say, a funeral? Not sure about CO but that's how I understand it.

 

[Bluebythec]

Oh I totally agree!

Can you imagine the tantrum BW will throw if his lawyers approach him about a plea deal? I can hear him now "I didn't pay you a million dollars to tell me to take a plea deal! I paid you to get me out of this, now do what I paid you to do! Blah blah blah" I think they'd get to see the angry Barry that Suzanne sometimes saw!

 

[Auntie Cipation]

I've always been confused by this. I agree with you about forgetting the time in order to bolster his alibi. But what I can't figure out is how an earlier or later time would fit his alibi.

Can you help me with this? Thanks!

It's hard for me to come up with a good scenario too, especially now that we know how much detail is known based on his truck movements, security camera captures, etc. And it's hard to imagine that BM wouldn't also be aware of that data.

I also initially thought that he was doing this mechanical "thing" himself, and really can't fathom him lying about the timing of something he had done by a shop in town, who would presumably have their own records of when it was done!

So initially, I figured it was something like "I couldn't have been XX (running equipment at the beach site at night, for example) because I was swapping the blade on my bobcat at that time".

But that makes no sense. It doesn't even make sense for him to try to pretend he wasn't home when SM died, because even though that appears to have been Sat ~3pm, there is no evidence for that (yet), and he has to stick with his claim that whatever happened to her, happened on Sunday. And he hasn't even denied being home "with her" on Saturday afternoon. (has he?)

So TLDR it makes no sense to me either! Maybe eventually we will understand.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

When a prisoner is paroled, do they not have to stay within the state and need special permission to leave the state for, say, a funeral? Not sure about CO but that's how I understand it.

People can get their parole transferred to another location or state but yes they petition for the transfer. Another way it can happen is to set less frequent parole meetings and then the parolee just returns to the state to meet with the probation officer.

 

[CGray123]

except the judge has already alluded to his concerns that some evidence/content in the AA could probably not be used in court. so possibly something along those lines.

You're right about this aspect of the AA. I think the judge will redact all statements he believes are inadmissible because they were obtained in violation of BM's Constitutional rights. Also, he will redact statements not made in the preliminary hearing, that are irrelevant to the finding of probable cause. He may redact some hearsay statements that are not within the scope of an exception, but regardless of any rules of evidence, he will probably not redact anything that the public has already heard in the preliminary hearing - and that's a lot.

 

[CGray123]

Can you imagine the tantrum BW will throw if his lawyers approach him about a plea deal? I can hear him now "I didn't pay you a million dollars to tell me to take a plea deal! I paid you to get me out of this, now do what I paid you to do! Blah blah blah" I think they'd get to see the angry Barry that Suzanne sometimes saw!

I agree. But they would not approach BM with a deal unless the prosecutor offered it. Then, it would be their obligation to take it to their client. In that context, the attorneys would be obliged also to have a candid conversation about the risks of trial and the certainty that the deal offers.

Not sure the prosecutor will offer a deal, though. In these cases they don't, sometimes.

 

[Bluebythec]

I agree. But they would not approach BM with a deal unless the prosecutor offered it. Then, it would be their obligation to take it to their client. In that context, the attorneys would be obliged also to have a candid conversations about the risks of trial and the certainty that the deal offers.

Not sure the prosecutor will offer a deal, though. In these cases they don't, sometimes.

Does it ever happen that the defense approaches the prosecutor and says "my client wants to make a deal?"

 

[dkryder]

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True, but if you pay cash for a burner, and register the initial SIM under a fake name with a fake address, well, that's what keeps local LE's digital crimes investigators so busy. One would first have to know that Barry even had such a device. If it is purchased for cash, just what, exactly about the IME1 number would lead further than the door of the business (or booth or swap meet) where it was purchased??

Hypothetically possible, but your previous comment delt with the FBI being unable to trace a phone after simply inserting a new sim. Which is incorrect. They could easily trace it. Establishing ownership is another issue which was not part of your original scenario. Although I think establishing ownership wouldn't be that difficult based on whom the owner ended up calling and references to whom was called prior to any sim swap . Your mileage may vary

For instance, Barry has a burner he used to call his crew. Just check Barry's crew phones for similar numbers. Both before and after a sum swap. Most of his crew prolly would have fingered him anyway.