Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 #80 *arrest*

[10ofRods]

I checked the geology, it's all granite, limestone, and sandstone. If you look at a topo of the PP house, it's on a rise with the (I guess technically front yard, facing Pahlone) rising to a hilltop so he might have been able to find softer Earth in the backyard on the South Ark, but she flows fast and would be prone to topping the banks and ripping up the soil in heavy rain. Also, the neighbors homes are a little too close to the river for me to consider it a "safe" place to bury a body.

Agreed - I was looking more generally around Maysville. Not too far away, there's a lower lying piece of land that isn't too far from the river - looks as if it may be used as a catchment field. I'm also looking at the way trees grow right at the edge of the river - clearly there's enough soil for them. There's one of these fields opposite the closest fire station.

However, none of these places make sense as a burial site (I don't think she's actually buried, myself). I'm sure it's all been searched.

There are homes all over Maysville where ever it's more flat/sandy/loamy, so I don't think he could use any of those places.

 

[Seattle1]

found this
@justtrish posted this:
I watched Lauren's video from day 3 and the timeline and noted some interesting things.

May 9th
2:04 photo to JL
2:06: JL texts about getting naked (this makes me wonder if they were going to do something and therefore she went inside at this point)
2:11 SM last communication with JL saying she was getting on WOAH (Lauren says maybe this is what's app, but I don't know that WOAH is an abbreviation for that?? Is there another app that people can maybe video call on called WOAH?

2:26 Barry calls Suzanne 11 times

2:44 Barry home (so at this point I now believe Suzanne is inside and not outside sunbathing)

CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #79 *ARREST*

so I think @OldCop it was from Lauren's recap and not in a published tweet? the transcript will prove this out.

^^bbm

Before this gets written in stone, I rewatched LS 3rd recap (video) as well as transcribed the YT and could not locate the timeline info provided by @justtrish. I think this timeline information needs a confirmed link before being accepted.

Relative to "WOAH," LS has previously stated that she's not familiar with the communication app 'Whatsap' used by SM and JL and think WOAH could be an abbreviation for the communication app.

CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #79 *ARREST*

There's a new courtroom transcript (court transcript #3) out today by YT host that may offer some help fishing out this part of the day and activity by SM/BM. MOO

 

[Megnut]

Surely Suzanne had many biking outfits... but I can't help but to inventory quickly:

As best I can recall and IMO:

Bike, check
Helmet, check
Gloves, in closet, wadded up
Bike shorts, in closet, readily retrieved by Barry
Hmmmmm.....
Seems we're missing bike shoes.
And a shirt.

Interesting.

JMO

 

[O.Incandenza]

Hi all. I’m trying to tie down the timeline after reviewing @NoSI’s great notes from days 3 and 4 of the prelim and some of the journalists’ tweets. Can anyone confirm what time BM tried to call SM 11 times on May 9th?
I have both 9:49 am and 2:36 pm.
I think this is really important.
From our timeline:
2:26 pm BM calls SM 11 times***

2:31 pm BM to SM: Did you leave?

2:35 pm BM texts SM that he’s on the way home

2:43:59 pm BM returned home

If this is the true timeline, I believe BM arrived home in a rage. SM wouldn’t answer his calls. He even thought she might have left him.
More importantly at 2:35 he texts her and tells her he’s on the way home.
Why is this so important? It means he didn’t sneak up on her.
I think SM was out sunbathing and sending texts and pics to JL. She ignored BM’s calls. She was caught up in her time with JL. Then BM says he’s on the way.
I imagine an “Oh sh****” moment. She runs inside, locks the br door, changes out of her bathing suit, throwing it on the floor with the brown towel.
BM arrives home. He is so mad. He goes to the BR, finds the door locked, and breaks it in. What happens next? Did he try to use the brown towel to strangle her? Did she manage to break away? Was that when the chase began?

Yeah, I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm not at all sure that BM found out about the affair with JL until law enforcement told him. I think it's quite possible that he snapped just because Suzanne was talking about leaving him and then ignored him that afternoon.

Their texts in the few days before her disappearance have that weird duality to them. On the one hand she's telling him that she's done and he's threatening suicide. But then the next day or two it's texting about getting pizza and going on hikes. To me that's indicative of people trying to maintain the illusion of normality in their lives while the relationship is disintegrating and then occasionally hitting periods where they can't pretend anymore and all the feelings come out. I think it's quite possible that he was just set off by her not answering his calls, and then when he got home and saw she was there and had just been ignoring him, he went crazy.

The reason I'm not sure he knew about the affair with JL is that I can't quite imagine him sitting on that information for so long. I get that it provides him with a motive, so he might have wanted to conceal it. But it also makes it more likely that Suzanne would have left on her own and it provides another suspect. And most importantly, it makes Suzanne look bad. Given all his focus on her drinking and 'drug use' in his interviews with LE, I think he would been hard for him to resist labeling her a cheater as well if he knew it was true.

 

[O.Incandenza]

^^bbm

Before this gets written in stone, I rewatched LS 3rd recap (video) as well as transcribed the YT and could not locate the timeline info provided by @justtrish. I think this timeline information needs a confirmed link before being accepted.

Relative to "WOAH," LS has previously stated that she's not familiar with the communication app 'Whatsap' used by SM and JL and think WOAH could be an abbreviation for the communication app.

CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #79 *ARREST*

There's a new courtroom transcript (court transcript #3) out today by YT host that may offer some help fishing out this part of the day and activity by SM/BM. MOO

It's actually the preview of day 3 video, so I guess it's from day 2 of the hearing. Here's the link to LS saying woah and then speculating that it means whatsapp:

 

[CGray123]

Yeah, I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm not at all sure that BM found out about the affair with JL until law enforcement told him. I think it's quite possible that he snapped just because Suzanne was talking about leaving him and then ignored him that afternoon.

Their texts in the few days before her disappearance have that weird duality to them. On the one hand she's telling him that she's done and he's threatening suicide. But then the next day or two it's texting about getting pizza and going on hikes. To me that's indicative of people trying to maintain the illusion of normality in their lives while the relationship is disintegrating and then occasionally hitting periods where they can't pretend anymore and all the feelings come out. I think it's quite possible that he was just set off by her not answering his calls, and then when he got home and saw she was there and had just been ignoring him, he went crazy.

The reason I'm not sure he knew about the affair with JL is that I can't quite imagine him sitting on that information for so long. I get that it provides him with a motive, so he might have wanted to conceal it. But it also makes it more likely that Suzanne would have left on her own and it provides another suspect. And most importantly, it makes Suzanne look bad. Given all his focus on her drinking and 'drug use' in his interviews with LE, I think he would been hard for him to resist labeling her a cheater as well if he knew it was true.

What do you do with BM's acknowledgement that he knew SM was having an "emotional" affair?

 

[Megnut]

@OldCop, I think Suzanne changed devices during that 2 o'clock hour. Barry's calls and texts went unanswered AND unnoticed.

I have some questions. Did Suzanne know Barry was en route?

Did Suzanne bike that day? Early? Was she planning to later?

How was she dressed when Barry got home? Was she dressed?

Did Suzanne have lunch with Barry?

Did Suzanne lock her bedroom door just for privacy or did she lock it for safety, trying to barrycade herself?

Did Barry move fast around the house betwen 2:43 amd 2:47 to look in windows to see where his previously sunbathing wife went? What did he see if and when he looked through Suzanne's bedroom window?

Why was Barry in their backyard AT ALL unless he independent knowledge that Suzanne was also there?

JL knows where Suzanne was just prior to 2:44 if indeed they were using a video app.

As well, LE should know whether her phone was active during that time. (If she plugged it, when Barry left on 5/10, it would have been easy to grab the phone AND charger.)

I hate everything about that day. Barry's deliberate movements, minute to minute, converging into what would become Suzanne's last one.

Just my sad opinions

 

[charminglane]

I don’t think the daughters were allowed into the home until LE released it on May 20. JMO
BM was only allowed in, escorted to retrieve something of Suzannes for the tracking dogs to use.


https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1429851479226073090?s=21
We are about to watch exhibit 94 which is body cam video of #BarryMorphew entering the home identifying the clothes of #SuzanneMorphew. This is the one and only time he was allowed into the home after Suzanne was reported missing.

The video starts on May 10 at 9:37 p.m. he starts in the driveway and walks down to the home with a deputy.

#BarryMorphew is wearing a long sleeve red and blue flannel. This is the first time we are watching video of inside the Morphew home. He heads into the home and takes a left into a closet and points to clothing then Barry is seen going to the kitchen to get a plastic ziploc bag.

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1429852954715201542?s=21
#BarryMorphew had pointed to black bicycle shorts which they put in a ziploc bag. The undersheriff also said there were riding gloves wadded up on the floor. Morphew is escorted out of the home. He was in the home from 9:37 p.m. until 9:40 p.m.

The undersheriff said this was the first time #BarryMorphew was able to go into the home. He is not asking any questions or looking around in the home. He isn't trying to call #SuzanneMorphew phone. The last place he saw her alive and isn't asking questions or looking at the bed.
https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1429853477199613953?s=21

Covering up the fingernails marks.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Thinking about Barry's comment that "if just one person is saved" by Suzanne's murder, then she would think it was worth it. For a long time I thought, in his twisted way, he was saying Suzanne's death had saved JL's soul. Crazy but I couldn't imagine what he was talking about!

Now I wonder if he was talking about MM2. He already had control of MM1 but he knew MM2's heart was with Suzanne. Could it be he thought Suzanne would corrupt MM2 if she lived with Suzanne?

 

[O.Incandenza]

What do you do with BM's acknowledgement that he knew SM was having an "emotional" affair?

That actually just strengthens my suspicion that he didn't know she was having an actual physical affair. If he was willing to admit to LE that she might have been having an emotional affair, why not go all the way and point the suspicion at JL? To me it sounds more like he didn't know for sure, and his ego was big enough that he didn't really believe Suzanne would have sex with someone else.

But I'm not at all 100% on any of this. The timing of her texting/potentially sending sexy photos to JL right before Barry got home and then never being heard from again does make discovery of the affair leading to murder a very real possibility.

 

[Lyanna]

The recent YT court transcripts - would it be allowed to type up and post at all?

 

[detective_kenzie3]

Barry Morphew murder case: DNA found in Suzanne Morphew's car matches partial samples from unsolved sex assaults

Investigators found a partial DNA sample in Suzanne's glovebox in her car of a male sexual predator that is wanted for sexual assaults in Arizona and Chicago, but the cross examiner did state it was very limited genetic data that matched to this person. The investigators stated that she was having a affair during the time she was missing I am curious as to who this person is that the DNA was linked too... was it the person she was seeing? if this case goes to trial against her husband Barry don't you think the jurors will find reasonable doubt? but while I am reading articles the investigators found a .22 caliber unset shell casing next to Suzanne's side of the bed and Barry had finger nail injuries under his arms, I think he is definitely guilty I just hope the jurors put him behind bars. I looked on the charley project and they haven't put her story on there she has been missing for over a year, I know she is presumed dead, but still is a no body homicide case. Are there still more active searches for her?

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Yeah, I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm not at all sure that BM found out about the affair with JL until law enforcement told him. I think it's quite possible that he snapped just because Suzanne was talking about leaving him and then ignored him that afternoon.

Their texts in the few days before her disappearance have that weird duality to them. On the one hand she's telling him that she's done and he's threatening suicide. But then the next day or two it's texting about getting pizza and going on hikes. To me that's indicative of people trying to maintain the illusion of normality in their lives while the relationship is disintegrating and then occasionally hitting periods where they can't pretend anymore and all the feelings come out. I think it's quite possible that he was just set off by her not answering his calls, and then when he got home and saw she was there and had just been ignoring him, he went crazy.

The reason I'm not sure he knew about the affair with JL is that I can't quite imagine him sitting on that information for so long. I get that it provides him with a motive, so he might have wanted to conceal it. But it also makes it more likely that Suzanne would have left on her own and it provides another suspect. And most importantly, it makes Suzanne look bad. Given all his focus on her drinking and 'drug use' in his interviews with LE, I think he would been hard for him to resist labeling her a cheater as well if he knew it was true.

I don’t think he knew. We know that Barry can be a hothead and I don’t see him not contacting JL if only by phone and ripping into him.

 

[Seattle1]

It's actually the preview of day 3 video, so I guess it's from day 2 of the hearing. Here's the link to LS saying woah and then speculating that it means whatsapp:

Thanks, @O.Incadenza for the video -- that's exactly what I recall about the woah and LS meaning the communication app (whatsapp). Now, if only somebody can locate confirmation (link) where BM called SM 11 times on May 9!

 

[scapa]

There's this WOAH app:

Woah | Trippy Videos

(Open at your own risk - it's trippy). But if that's what the reference means, then JL and Suzanne had found activities/music/apps to enjoy as a couple. She probably believed she had found her "Fred."

I tend to agree -- and if JL wasn't quite "Fred" then he might have been stepping stone towards Freds-yet-to-come.

It's mo accident, IMO, that early SM apps like Friends Reunited and later FB got users thinking about their earlier selves, before the forks in the road represented by long-term relationships or stressful work and/or family lives, and the people who remembered them as those selves. It's comforting, and can be exciting, to become that person again.

And it's no accident that SM reached out to JL, someone who might have been that road less travelled (I'm guessing that the young BM was very much a road well-travelled) and who was there just before that major fork in the road that was her marriage to BM. Sure, it was a fantasy, but it's a powerful fantasy, and the risks were, I suspect, a decent part of the power and excitement. I think she was rolling back time, while reimagining herself not as she was at 18-19 back in Indiana, but perhaps more as she might have been, had she had known then what she knew now, etc.

It was that potent fantasy that, IMO, Barry could never give her -- he was the mistake, the life she had to run from, especially once healthy, despite what they had in terms of their daughters, assets, etc. When she said "I'm done," she meant it -- and he knew she meant it. At that point, reasons may not have mattered, or consequences. I suspect that whatever happened was violent, personal and quick. Then, he tried to think clearly. Work out what he thought and when he thought it, and you have her location, IMO.

Of course, that's the tricky part.

 

[sk716]

Barry Morphew murder case: DNA found in Suzanne Morphew's car matches partial samples from unsolved sex assaults

Investigators found a partial DNA sample in Suzanne's glovebox in her car of a male sexual predator that is wanted for sexual assaults in Arizona and Chicago, but the cross examiner did state it was very limited genetic data that matched to this person. The investigators stated that she was having a affair during the time she was missing I am curious as to who this person is that the DNA was linked too... was it the person she was seeing? if this case goes to trial against her husband Barry don't you think the jurors will find reasonable doubt? but while I am reading articles the investigators found a .22 caliber unset shell casing next to Suzanne's side of the bed and Barry had finger nail injuries under his arms, I think he is definitely guilty I just hope the jurors put him behind bars. I looked on the charley project and they haven't put her story on there she has been missing for over a year, I know she is presumed dead, but still is a no body homicide case. Are there still more active searches for her?

Gonna quote myself in regards to the DNA in the RR:

It's obfuscation. It means nothing and is literally the defense creating a shadow serial killer as the Real Killers™!

There isn't ANY relevant DNA in this investigation. Barry's DNA on the bike is also irrelevant, he is seen touching it in the body cam footage. A print under the seat has a little more weight but again, he was touching the bike at the scene.

The complete LACK of DNA in this case is much more damaging to BM than anything else. Why wasn't Barry's DNA in her RR? Does anyone seriously believe that he never drove her car? He never took it in for an oil change and a detailing? He's an appearances guy.

Do we know if LE pulled the geo/black-box data from Suzanne's car? It wasn't discussed at PH.

 

[Deleted member 222031]

The recent YT court transcripts - would it be allowed to type up and post at all?

That would be great. But.....

I would ask a Mod to make sure since so far WS has only approved video links with no comments allowed here.

I'm not sure if it might be a work product conflict or some other type of shared content conflict since the creator of the videos paid for the transcripts, which came with rules from the court about publishing them.

MOO

 

[Lyanna]

That would be great. But.....

I would ask a Mod to make sure since so far WS has only approved video links with no comments allowed here.

I'm not sure if it might be a work product conflict or some other type of shared content conflict since the creator of the videos paid for the transcripts, which came with rules from the court about publishing them.

MOO

K, thanks

Will ask

 

[sk716]

Agreed - I was looking more generally around Maysville. Not too far away, there's a lower lying piece of land that isn't too far from the river - looks as if it may be used as a catchment field. I'm also looking at the way trees grow right at the edge of the river - clearly there's enough soil for them. There's one of these fields opposite the closest fire station.

However, none of these places make sense as a burial site (I don't think she's actually buried, myself). I'm sure it's all been searched.

There are homes all over Maysville where ever it's more flat/sandy/loamy, so I don't think he could use any of those places.

As I understand it, the searches swept along HWY 50 from Poncha Springs toward Monarch, so we can probably rule out anything down in the valley.

The messed up part is, it's virtually impossible to search where I think she is up on Pahlone.

 

[detective_kenzie3]

Gonna quote myself in regards to the DNA in the RR:

I believe that if there was a .22 caliber shell there should have been blood spatter analysis done... right? I would think and hope they would do that, also was there blood on the mattress? or any blood evidence found in the home? did they swab BM for gun powder residue? maybe they just didn't release all that to the public and are waiting for trial. I am just asking because I did not see anything like that reported