Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 #81 *arrest*

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  • #21
I believe he knew about the affair, too, even if had found out about it recent to her disappearance. He knew.

The only thing that makes me have doubts about him knowing about it is that he maintained so much self-control for the last year+, in that he didn't (want to) murder Jeff, too, and didn't blab about it when he was raging.

We've seen and heard instances of Barry losing control. How and why didn't he lose control about JL? Or maybe he did.

Maybe JL was the final straw. Perhaps he suspected (through spying on her) that SM was having an affair, and he learned who it was that fateful weekend. On the other hand, his life aka his freedom was at stake if he ever admitted to knowing about the affair. No other way about it, that is a huge motive.
Barry was very big on appearances. He questioned Suzanne about her telling others of their marital problems, and he refused to speak of divorce. I do believe that a lot of this may be based on his religious beliefs, coupled with his own views on roles in marriage. No one leaves Barry. No one could ever seek love elsewhere, when they had him. He would never want the outside world to know that his wife did not find him to be enough. It almost sounds like he bragged about their sexual encounter on Saturday to investigators, how wonderful it was. I think Suzanne was a possession to him, someone not on his level in his mind. He provided, and she was supposed to acquiesce to his demands. When she balked this time, he realized she really was planning her exit. So he stealthily became the hunter, and did what was necessary to ensure that no one would know the truth. Suzanne’s money didn’t hurt either.
 
  • #22
I read the Plunder transcript. I was going to copy and paste the words/time stamp but I am unsure if that’s okay. Starts at around 18:20.

JR & Suzanne had coffee on Tuesday, and Suzanne said she would be busy with Barry’s books the rest of the week. Suzanne basically said not to come by. Did Suzanne do that much billing for Barry? Was she just giving herself free time, or did she worry about how Barry would be without kids at home? Did she have a lot of extra stuff for Barry because they had reached a juncture of some sort? That whole week feels off in some way-what is said vs. what is done.


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  • #23
From what I understand, victims (Morphew daughters AND all of the Moormans) would have a say with the prosecutors but due to whatever is presented at trial, might be persuaded. I highly doubt it will come to that.
IF this goes to trial, and I'll bet my life it does, when the witnesses testify it will be a slam dunk.
IMO
I didn't interpret it that way. I interpreted that they will be informed and listened to but not that they have a "say" as a determining factor.
 
  • #24
I read the Plunder transcript. I was going to copy and paste the words/time stamp but I am unsure if that’s okay. Starts at around 18:20.

I'm still getting the vibe that it was just a marriage heading for the rocks...good times...bad times...normalcy....things that aren't "normal". And normal or not there are couples that sleep together to put it delicately before, during and even after a divorce.
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  • #25
I didn't interpret it that way. I interpreted that they will be informed and listened to but not that they have a "say" as a determining factor.
victims have no legal authority in sentencing, as far as I can tell. They have a right to be heard. What is interesting in this case is that Victims MM1 and MM2 may well have a far different statement to make regarding sentencing, if it comes to that, than say, AM. The contrast may result in an uncomfortable climate in the courtroom.
 
  • #26
I didn't interpret it that way. I interpreted that they will be informed and listened to but not that they have a "say" as a determining factor


I'm still getting the vibe that it was just a marriage heading for the rocks...good times...bad times...normalcy....things that aren't "normal". And normal or not there are couples that sleep together to put it delicately before, during and even after a divorce.
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I would speculate that any sex between SM and BM for months would amount to a pacifier for BM, and would be to serve that specific purpose.
 
  • #27
Just seems like that week, at least several days, leading up to 5/9 was culminating....a critical mass was developing....and it appears both sides, BM and SM, knew it from opposite sides. Planning was going on by both...ironically, to end the marriage. The one thing that was irreconcileable, imo, is the difference of outlook on divorce. Suzanne could no longer live with this guy....and BM, imo, was not so much afraid of divorce as he was the process of divorce. Its the process that would have taken his power away; if not exposed matters he wanted to remain secret. Barry was not about to put himself in a position where terms would be dictated to him. Also....I think Barry knew more about Suzanne's affair than he has admitted to. The reason I think he didn't over-react, or tip his hand was because that problem would take care of itself at the end of the day.

I'm not sure that he did. Barry is a narcissistic sociopath. Was it the FBI he told that he thought she might be having an "emotional affair"? What does a guy like Barry know of an emotional affair? I think the first he knew of someone else was between the 6th and the 9th. He's a cheater, so it's only natural that he probably accused her of cheating constantly, but there is a difference between that kind of irrational jealousy and actually believing she had someone else. Suzanne worked hard to keep that affair a secret even from her closest friends.

I concede that he may have seen something while the Bobcat blade got changed. I can't come up with any other explanation for dialing her phone eleven times in quick succession.
 
  • #28
Victims' Input?
I didn't interpret it that way. I interpreted that they will be informed and listened to but not that they have a "say" as a determining factor.
@Momofthreeboys sbm for focus I'm curious if you agree that these two victims' rights provisions under CO VRA quoted verbatim and linked below are the ones applicable to the victims' input issue. And if you do not agree, I'm curious to know which statutory provisions you believe do apply. Thx in adv.

Rights afforded to victims – definitions*
FIRST
“(d) The right to be heard at any court proceeding:....
(III) At which the court accepts a negotiated plea agreement;
(IV) At which a person accused or convicted of a crime against the victim is sentenced or resentenced…”
bbm

SECOND
(e) The right to consult with the prosecution after any crime against the victim has been charged, prior to any disposition of the case, or prior to any trial of the case, and the right to be informed of the final disposition of the case; …” bbm

I read those two provisions {{{ w. a bit of interpretation}}} as saying:
First, victims may "be heard in at a court proceeding, in which judge accepts a "negotiated pleas agreement."
........... {{ Imo, victims may speak on the court record at those court proceedings.}}
Second, victims may consult w prosecution.
........... {{ Imo, victims may consult w prosecution, after someone is charged w crime, and before disposition or trial, but not on court record.}}
My2ct.
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* Current through 2021 Legislative Session 2021 "Section 24-4.1-302.5 - [Effective 9/7/2021]
Section 24-4.1-302.5 - [Effective 9/7/2021] Rights afforded to victims - definitions, Colo. Rev. Stat. § 24-4.1-302.5 | Casetext Search + Citator
 
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  • #29
@IRBHTX You said,

"You have touched upon another reason why I question this judge's stated rationales. For him to insist that the Media Consortium (MC) must provide a means to protect the daughters from intimidation, harassment or abuse beyond what the MC motion states as the norms for victim protection seems really out of bounds to me.

Future courts can cite this case as reasonable proof to withhold AAs based on the same rationales, which would be absurd in my view.

When the media in their motion

gave a list with citations of all the normal protections available to victims under the law,

the judge did not even address them.

He made a blanket statement that since redaction was impossible at the time (in his view - I believe the MC's reasoning vacated this), the release of the AA would require the media to find a way to protect the daughters. Short of that, the AA is sealed.

Whatever he is protecting the daughters from must be an extremely substantial danger for him to hide behind how onerous redaction is as proof of how nothing can be done to protect the daughters until that is accomplished.

To me his reasoning is circular and illogical. Perhaps there is a valid basis for that? Maybe that is his intent? I believe none or almost none of that AA will ever see the light of day whether or not BM is bound over.

Please be gentle in any response. Not being a lawyer, I am sure my reasoning has its faults. But I am also sure that appalling others by doubting this judge is not one of them.

JMHO"

Each substantive paragraph in your criticism of Judge Murphy contains what can be gently described as at least one misleading misrepresentation of the statements actually made in the documents to which the post refers. I have bolded them for reference.

Perhaps it would be helpful if you quoted the actual documents in your analysis - either it would make a more convincing argument to those of us who disagree, or it would give you reason to reflect on the possibility that your doubts about the judge may not be well founded.

Rule 55.1 requires the judge to articulate one or more "substantial interests" (not an "extremely substantial danger") that justify withholding all or part of a court document from public view. The word "substantial" means, in this context, real and important.

Judge Murphy cited two interests which are independent of each other, not linked as you suggest. There is nothing to "hide behind."

The first interest is practical and related to the fact that the judge is not a robot: he needs time and meaningful input from the parties to do the complex and important job of redacting a 130 page AA - balancing the public's right to know with other substantial interests such as the defendant's interest in preparing a defense. Everyone experienced in legal proceedings understands the reality he is facing, and that this is a real and important interest.

The MC's argument misconstrued the judge's statements (as advocates will) and cited cases related to the defendant's interest in a fair trial. These were not, as you describe them, "a list with citations of all the normal protections available to victims under the law." The cases cited were "pretrial publicity" cases, in which a defendant argued that his Constitutional rights to due process and to a trial before a fair and impartial tribunal were adversely affected. Contrary to your statement, the judge did respond to these citations: he pointed out that since these Constitutional rights were not among the substantial interests he relied on in his decision, their rulings were not applicable or controlling.

I challenge you to identify in the judge's original decision or his denial of the MC motion for reconsideration "...a blanket statement that since redaction was impossible at the time ..., the release of the AA would require the media to find a way to protect the daughters." I find no such statement.

The second substantial interest relied on by Judge Murphy as justification for temporarily withholding the affidavit was his Constitutional responsibility to treat victims of crime with respect and to protect them from intimidation, harassment, abuse, etc. In denying the MC's motion, he pointed out that the alternative remedies they suggested were reactive - they could provide sanctions for criminal offenses, but they would not fulfill the obligation to protect the daughters, which he understood to be his responsibility. He remained convinced that there was no less restrictive alternative for this purpose than temporarily sealing the affidavit.

Also contrary to your statement, this decision does not set a legal precedent that can be relied on by other courts. Only decisions of appellate courts can do that. Moreover, the facts of this case are extraordinary. Judge Murphy's rationale, tailored to those facts, is unlikely to be used again in our lifetime.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if they are mistaken (as I am, often enough).
 
  • #30
@CGray123 I agree with your interpretation. Given what we did learn from the preliminary fwas further confirmation for me that the judge made a wise decision both in terms of what may not be admissible but the sheer number of potential witnesses that could have been adversely affected prior to the current point in time had the AA been released. Sealing it only increased speculation of the public trying to read between the lines which still continues, but in long run does no real harm and the witnesses have the weight of the ruling continuing to some extent to protect them.
 
  • #31
I read the Plunder transcript. I was going to copy and paste the words/time stamp but I am unsure if that’s okay. Starts at around 18:20.

JR & Suzanne had coffee on Tuesday, and Suzanne said she would be busy with Barry’s books the rest of the week. Suzanne basically said not to come by. Did Suzanne do that much billing for Barry?

Just a thought -- I wonder if she was doing their taxes that week as well. Or preparing for that. (remember tax filing deadline was extended in 2020 due to covid).

IIRC they owned multiple rental homes, the income from which would complicate their taxes ("complicate" = my personal opinion). Would she call their joint taxes "doing Barry's books?" I think possibly, yes, given the control he seemed to hold in their relationship.

MOO
 
  • #32
@CGray123 I agree with your interpretation. Given what we did learn from the preliminary fwas further confirmation for me that the judge made a wise decision both in terms of what may not be admissible but the sheer number of potential witnesses that could have been adversely affected prior to the current point in time had the AA been released. Sealing it only increased speculation of the public trying to read between the lines which still continues, but in long run does no real harm and the witnesses have the weight of the ruling continuing to some extent to protect them.
It's long been the typical procedure in Colorado criminal courts for Judges to withhold the AA from public release until the conclusion of the PH, a decision I support. I think this case is a perfect example of why releasing the AA on May 18, 2021 (date charges filed) was unthinkable! BM hadn't even hired his defense team E & N yet! MOO
 
  • #33
I'm still getting the vibe that it was just a marriage heading for the rocks...good times...bad times...normalcy....things that aren't "normal". And normal or not there are couples that sleep together to put it delicately before, during and even after a divorce.
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And to put it not so delicately, sometimes one party is coerced or forced, as well.
 
  • #34
Red Flags
Responding to post by @Bluebythec

Wish we had a transcript of what Jeanne Ritter said when she called the non-emergency line to report SM missing. Ever since we heard they had a 2-hour coffee klatch on May 6, I have wondered if the Ritters have LE protection. "I'm done & I don't care" msg to BM the same day then suddenly SM is missing?

The minute LE found the missing dart. It has to be filled carefully with a drug. It has to be loaded, aimed & fired from a weapon. The defendant admits using such a weapon on the day and near the time of her last communication. The syringe cap was the ultimate smoking gun for me.

MOO
I think the neighbor JR rang the red flags first. She and Suzanne had a habit of sharing morning coffee. I do believe Suzanne might have shared her intention of a divorce on and even before May 6th. I would hope they were offered protection as a witness, I'd be terrified of BM out on the prowl.

Since Suzanne was a beginner biker, there is no way she would head up dramatic inclines IMO. Big red flag.

BM not responding to the 2 LE calls the evening she went missing. Never looked around for her when he got to Puma Path, didn't try and call her phone. Big red flags.

BM was busier throwing red flags than an official during college game days.

MOO
 
  • #35
Hmm hard to say. I guess personally I would think she would say I'm doing (my husband's books) but say I'm working on our taxes.
 
  • #36
Happy New Year! May all good things come to all who sleuthed this past year for the sole sake of truth, honesty and justice!
Right back at you, Happy New Year.
 
  • #37
Here's a scenario I've been considering due to what appears to be a lack of forensic evidence at the house:

She texts him to bring hot tub stuff
She is changed out of her suit (that's why it's in the bedroom) and into the shorts and string top (he claims this is what she was wearing)
She is standing near the hot tub when he pulls in - does she know / hear him pulling in? if not, she is cleaning the hot tub thinking all is normal
He pushes her with force into the hot tub and drowns her there
Body moved to cooler and driven to it's ultimate location
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the crack in the doorframe was done earlier - and this action precipitated her text to her sister about his becoming more violent.
I agree with you that his "religious" beliefs were involved, but I've come to think that people choose their religions and emphasize certain aspects of them, due to their own personalities and values. Controlling people get involved in controlling religions. If the person is a man who wants to control women, they like remaining in a religion where that is preached. Full stop.

I am not sure "love" played much of a role in Barry's worldview (you are being very diplomatic, btw). These possessions of his were accessories that he'd been taught since childhood were essentially for a "real man" to have. So he got them.

I also have a strong bias/belief that men who brag about their sexual prowess are always wrong.

You did a great job in summarizing the family dynamics in this case, for sure. You're just way nicer than I'm feeling today. I've been thinking that it's odd that Barry didn't notice that she was having an emotional affair - but after thinking about your post, it's obvious that he wasn't invested emotionally in the relationship the way many of us think of our own family relationships. He wouldn't notice her emotional withdrawal as long as she continued to act like a proper wife. And she knew that. Must have felt like being a robot in many ways.

In one text message Suzanne told SO, “says he loves me and can’t handle the pain from me not giving him the love he needs. Does not mention all the damage he’s done to me. Physically, mentally.”


In later text she wrote, “Told him I’m done. That I need peace. Not sure what’s next” and “He tries to use money as a tool and the girls. I didn’t take the bait.”
Barry Morphew In Court: Investigator Says Suzanne Morphew Was Having Affair When She Disappeared
(Note, changed BFF to initials)
BBM

As many of us thought - the communication with the BFF is going to tell the tale....
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  • #38
I think the neighbor JR rang the red flags first. She and Suzanne had a habit of sharing morning coffee.

Do we know this? I only was aware of the one time. I sure hope it's true though.

Hmm hard to say. I guess personally I would think she would say I'm doing (my husband's books) but say I'm working on our taxes.
Same here. But I'm going to guess neither of us are in an oppressed /abusive relationship with a controlling narcissist.
 
  • #39
I'm not sure that he did. Barry is a narcissistic sociopath. Was it the FBI he told that he thought she might be having an "emotional affair"? What does a guy like Barry know of an emotional affair? I think the first he knew of someone else was between the 6th and the 9th. He's a cheater, so it's only natural that he probably accused her of cheating constantly, but there is a difference between that kind of irrational jealousy and actually believing she had someone else. Suzanne worked hard to keep that affair a secret even from her closest friends.

I concede that he may have seen something while the Bobcat blade got changed. I can't come up with any other explanation for dialing her phone eleven times in quick succession.
Barry would need some basis for thinking "she might be having an "emotional affair"". What would he form that basis from, if not information he had uncovered? The only other source would be Suzanne or a third party who knew about it. I think Barry was playing coy with the subject...the FBI was evaluating his reaction very carefully, imo. I agree with you he wouldn't know what that means....Nor would he accept any type of an affair, up to and including a sexual one. His admission about an emotional affair tells me that Barry makes a distinction between a physical affair and a non-physical affair....I think he wanted to give the impression that he considered an emotional affair one that was less serious (and wouldn't trigger murder). I think he was disingenuous about the subject...jmo.
 
  • #40
Do we know this? I only was aware of the one time. I sure hope it's true though.

Same here. But I'm going to guess neither of us are in an oppressed /abusive relationship with a controlling narcissist.
It was said in court that JR and Suzanne sometimes had coffee.
 
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