Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #89

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  • #921
AA pg 24/131
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We really only have Barry saying he rode with her, right? Might be nothing but an unnecessary Bsplain -- nobody would be surprised to find a spouse's DNA in the opposite spouse's vehicle.
I wonder though where they sat then to eat the pizza.
^^rsbm

AA pg 92/131
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Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV


ON May 8, #SuzanneMorphew sent a picture of #Barrymorphew standing outside Moonlight Pizza waiting for pizza to the girls. The girls are in Utah on a roadtrip.

12:57 PM · Aug 10, 2021

I think it's clear that SM and BM were together at the pizza parlor takeout and BM later drove home from Salida in his truck when he phoned GM.
 
  • #922
The dart sheath had to have been found in the dryer drum. There is no way it would get sucked into a mesh filter. If they say the vent that means they took apart the hose and vent behind the dryer and it would never be there because it could not get past the mesh filter.

Some dryers have the vent open to the drum of the dryer. Mine personally pulls out, but I have had dryers in the past that the lint trap thing was open to the dryer and I could just reach in and scrape the lint out without pulling anything out. I am wondering if that is how this dryer was and it was found just laying on top of the lint in that area?
 
  • #923
Wow! Great listening!
They now know who the DNA is from that was found on her glovebox. I had not heard that before! He's probably in jail now since he was wanted for 3 sexual assaults. I wonder where.
However the partial DNA, the DNA on the RR dash, also calle the "forensic sample" excludes the unknown male that committed the 3 sex assaults.
 
  • #924
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RR contents -- crime scene report AA pg 11/131
 
  • #925
When do deer lose their antlers? If he admitted to shooting 2 in April and the antlers are off by this point, then what is the purpose of tranquillizing them at that point?

His downfall may be picking the wrong time to pull off his evil plan. Maybe November would have been a better time.

RBBM

In Colorado:

The antler cycle hinges on endocrine and neural control, as well as the size, age and health of the animal. What that means is antlers hit the ground from November to April, and there’s a ton of variability both between regions and individuals. Moose are the first to drop the weight. They cast their antlers, which can weigh 40 pounds apiece, between late November and late December. Mule and white-tailed deer start dropping their antlers in mid-December, but some don’t shed until early April. Elk shed last, between January and April, though the great majority lose their racks in March.

https://www.rmef.org/elk-network/bulls-bucks-shed-antlers/#:~:text=They cast their antlers, which,lose their racks in March.
 
  • #926
  • #927
LS refresher from the PH:

Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV


ON May 8, #SuzanneMorphew sent a picture of #Barrymorphew standing outside Moonlight Pizza waiting for pizza to the girls. The girls are in Utah on a roadtrip.

12:57 PM · Aug 10, 2021

Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV


Between 8-9 p.m. on May 8, #SuzanneMorphew Facebook codes were reset. She friend requested 23 people in total 20 were men. Investigators asked Barry if this was him and he said no.

1:00 PM · Aug 10, 2021·

Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV


#SuzanneMorphew sent messages to Sheila Oliver about her daughters wedding the next day.

1:02 PM · Aug 10, 2021·

Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV


On May 9, Text messages:

9:50 BM: Wanna go on a hike?
9:52 SM: where? (no response) Later on, asking about summer tires on range rover?
10:36 SM: Wanna meet to hike? 12 minutes later
10:48 BM:No, coming home
SM: Get Hottub stuff

1:05 PM · Aug 10, 2021
 
  • #928
LS refresher from the PH:

Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV


ON May 8, #SuzanneMorphew sent a picture of #Barrymorphew standing outside Moonlight Pizza waiting for pizza to the girls. The girls are in Utah on a roadtrip.

12:57 PM · Aug 10, 2021

Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV


Between 8-9 p.m. on May 8, #SuzanneMorphew Facebook codes were reset. She friend requested 23 people in total 20 were men. Investigators asked Barry if this was him and he said no.

1:00 PM · Aug 10, 2021·

Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV


#SuzanneMorphew sent messages to Sheila Oliver about her daughters wedding the next day.

1:02 PM · Aug 10, 2021·

Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV


On May 9, Text messages:

9:50 BM: Wanna go on a hike?
9:52 SM: where? (no response) Later on, asking about summer tires on range rover?
10:36 SM: Wanna meet to hike? 12 minutes later
10:48 BM:No, coming home
SM: Get Hottub stuff

1:05 PM · Aug 10, 2021
Can I ask do you have a link to the ML Pizza pic of BM. I would like to look at it. Or ia it in the AA?
 
  • #929
The stuff on the RR passenger seat/floorboards is interesting. It does appear that Moonlight Pizza was Friday night, but I think they may have met there, based on Barry’s phone records and the stuff on Suzanne’s passenger seat. Barry said that he thought they jumped in the RR to go to Moonlight, but that doesn’t make sense. Their phones were not together at 7:06 pm, and he wouldn’t sit in the back. Barry’s phone was 3 miles away from Suzanne’s, on 50. Suzanne’s phone never left the house on Saturday, and I doubt she went to her car to throw everything on the passenger seat. She might toss the pool chemicals on the floorboard, but I doubt she also bothered to move stuff on to the passenger seat.
 
  • #930
It's more indirect than even that. Likely a service or car wash provider, the one whose DNA was left in Suzanne's car, is related to someone with a criminal past. The criminal's DNA is in the database. The DNA of the attendant/ mechanic/ passenger handling Suzanne's car is not. Neither of those people, nor the countless other potential partial matches, had means or motive.

The point remains, there's a logical explanation for DNA on the glovebox of Suzanne's RR. And there's no reason to believe it occurred in relation to the events of MDW.

What remains is a growing span of time with Suzanne silent across all digital media, beginning with Barry's arrival at PP, where he places himself, running around the house, firing a .22.

He said that. We didn't.

JMO
Then why oh why did the guy lawyer up? I know it is the smart thing to do but if he hadn’t been anywhere near Salida and could prove it why spend the money to lawyer up after the first phone call? There is still missing pieces to this DNA story in my opinion and I cannot just dismiss it to being the Jiffy Lube’s cousin two times removed :)
 
  • #931
AA pg 24/131
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^^rsbm

AA pg 92/131
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Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV


ON May 8, #SuzanneMorphew sent a picture of #Barrymorphew standing outside Moonlight Pizza waiting for pizza to the girls. The girls are in Utah on a roadtrip.

12:57 PM · Aug 10, 2021

I think it's clear that SM and BM were together at the pizza parlor takeout and BM later drove home from Salida in his truck when he phoned GM.

That's just the problem, it's really not clear at all.

From the PH:

Q Eytan: Sure. At 3:51 Suzanne received another message from Mr. Morphew, “I promise you were wrong about all the crazy thoughts about me. I have always been faithful. Always. why would I ever want another when I’m married to the most beautiful, sweet, kind, loving, woman as you? Only a fool would stray from an angel like you,” correct?


A Harris: Correct.


Q Eytan: Same day. 7:15 pm when Mr. Morphew went to get pizza from Moonlight Pizza Ms. Morphew let Jeff Libler know that she was free to talk. She said at 7:18, “He’s gone for a bit.” That correct?


A Harris: Can I look on the messages?


Q Eytan: Yes.

A Harris: I’m having a hard time finding it. Can you remind me of the content again?

THE COURT: “He’s gone for a bit.” “Can you talk?”


A Harris: I don’t see that on the night of 5/6 in LinkedIn.


MR. LINDSEY: Look at 5/8.

I made my own transcript of the PH from the Plunder vids. It's missing 121 pages at the front, and a gap in the middle of day two. But otherwise, I have it. I can't share it, but I have it as a reference. I like print. I want to be able to refer to the words.
 
  • #932
In your opinion he was exasperated. For me he came off as a thorough contemplative person who was managing the courtroom. He of all people knew the tip went to prosecution and knew defense strategy would be to ensure their client got bail by ensuring prosecution didn’t meet proof positive presumption great. This was never going to be a simple preliminary in my opinion and he had seen and signed off on the arrest warrant. His decision to proceed with trial and to say the prosecution did not meet proof positive presumption great was again in my opinion spot on. I really think negativity with the judge for some was that he didn’t put the hammer down, say the case met the burden to keep Barry in jail. I was sorry to see him leave the case since he had been there since the arrest warrant.

This is just one example:
MS. NIELSEN: Your Honor the only problem is I don't have a copy of what he has so I can't label it. So if I could get a copy I have no problem with the foundation and admission. I just -- I need to be able to identify the exhibits and I haven't been provided a copy.
THE COURT: Are they in a form that they can reference? Are the photos together in the discovery somewhere?

MR. LINDSEY: They're all in discovery. They've been provided in discovery. They've also been identified as exhibits according to the Court's order previously. It's not a surprise to them.
 
  • #933
Can I ask do you have a link to the ML Pizza pic of BM. I would like to look at it. Or ia it in the AA?
The photo sent by SM to her daughters (BM picking up pizza) must have been an Exhibit at PH -- it's not in the AA that I'm aware of.
 
  • #934
The photo sent by SM to her daughters (BM picking up pizza) must have been an Exhibit at PH -- it's not in the AA that I'm aware of.

I don't think it was an exhibit, but I can't remember if it was a PH tweet or a headline. Again, still looking for the original source.
 
  • #935
That's just the problem, it's really not clear at all.

From the PH:

Q Eytan: Sure. At 3:51 Suzanne received another message from Mr. Morphew, “I promise you were wrong about all the crazy thoughts about me. I have always been faithful. Always. why would I ever want another when I’m married to the most beautiful, sweet, kind, loving, woman as you? Only a fool would stray from an angel like you,” correct?


A Harris: Correct.


Q Eytan: Same day. 7:15 pm when Mr. Morphew went to get pizza from Moonlight Pizza Ms. Morphew let Jeff Libler know that she was free to talk. She said at 7:18, “He’s gone for a bit.” That correct?


A Harris: Can I look on the messages?


Q Eytan: Yes.

A Harris: I’m having a hard time finding it. Can you remind me of the content again?

THE COURT: “He’s gone for a bit.” “Can you talk?”


A Harris: I don’t see that on the night of 5/6 in LinkedIn.


MR. LINDSEY: Look at 5/8.

I made my own transcript of the PH from the Plunder vids. It's missing 121 pages at the front, and a gap in the middle of day two. But otherwise, I have it. I can't share it, but I have it as a reference. I like print. I want to be able to refer to the words.

IMO, the photo SM sent to her daughters of BM waiting in line at Moonlight Pizza will coincide with SM making contact with JL. SM was in her vehicle alone for a few minutes. Also, SM set up with a good cover taking BM's photo-- BM probably thought she was texting with the kids when she was probably texting with JL.
 
  • #936
IMO, the photo SM sent to her daughters of BM waiting in line at Moonlight Pizza will coincide with SM making contact with JL. SM was in her vehicle alone for a few minutes. Also, SM set up with a good cover taking BM's photo-- BM probably thought she was texting with the kids when she was probably texting with JL.

Suzanne doesn't help at all.

Q Eytan: And Ms. Morphew’s next report about Barry being between the report about Barry to Mr. Libler is on May 9th at 8L21 am, the next report about Barry where she says to Mr. Libler after he asked her how her night was and she said, “I had a fine, quiet night. Picked up pizza and looked around town at houses for sale. Still talk of Arizona.” Correct?

 
  • #937
This case is about as clear as water to many of us following for almost two years now, and though I understand that without a thorough understanding gained from expert analysis/explanation of the DNA on SM’s vehicle glovebox leaves reasonable doubt for some, I believe once explained fully by DNA expert witnesses at trial, any critically thinking jury will understand its significance, which for me after doing some research and studying up on it, the random glovebox DNA is a nothingburger.

Random touch DNA can literally be found everywhere, and I believe there’s an innocent explanation for how it came to be on SM’s vehicle glovebox. It is my understanding that it is not the offender’s DNA that was found on the glovebox, but a potential close or distant relative of said offender whose DNA is in CODIS and which the glovebox DNA got a hit on as partial match. The person (close/distant relative of offender in CODIS) could have either worked on SM’s vehicle at some point, was a passenger in that vehicle at some point, worker at the car dealership etc, etc. Having said that as a follower of true crime for decades and someone who does research to gain an understanding and clarity on things that come up in the cases I follow, I realize most jurors probably don’t follow true crime closely and don’t have the scientific knowledge of the full meaning of DNA/DNA types (full profile, partial profile, full match, partial match, transfer DNA, touch DNA etc, etc, etc) nor its implications or weight bearing significance in cases. So from an average juror’s standpoint, I would want this glovebox DNA thoroughly explained to me, absolutely yes. As a juror, I would also take it a step further and would want to know the following: was this same DNA found anywhere else at the scene- inside house, outside on patio/patio furniture, etc? Was this same DNA found on the bike? Was this same DNA found on the helmet? Because to believe some crazed random abductor and/or serial rapist killer ambushed/abducted/killed SM and either left the scene with an alive, struggling Suzanne or if he raped and killed her and left the scene with her dead body and throughout doing all that to include staging a bike and helmet and only managed to get his DNA on her vehicle glovebox and nowhere else, defies credulity and logic. IOW, as a juror, I would want to see other corroborating evidence that the same contributing DNA found on the vehicle glovebox was found in other places at the crime scene as well as on the staged bike and helmet which to my knowledge, the rando glovebox DNA was not found in any other places at the scene nor on the bike or helmet. If it were, you can bet it would’ve been brought up by E&N by now and they’d have already motioned case and all charges dismissed if that same DNA was found in any other locations at the scene as well as on the bike and helmet.

No doubt, E&N are masters at what they do, and they are using this random glovebox DNA to plant reasonable doubt in minds of future jurors. So far, it seems to be working but once explained clearly and thoroughly by experts to jurors at trial, I think most smart, critically thinking jurors will be able to see it’s insignificance/irrelevance and will be able to see/conclude that all roads and totality of the mountain of evidence leads to one conclusion BARD of responsible perpetrator.

I’m not saying it will be easy for the potential jury or that it is a slam dunk, no. It is obviously different to know vs. prove BARD in court, and especially with DC E&N, the prosecution most definitely needs to bring their A-game to trial to help the jury understand the evidence and be able to connect the dots of the mountain of circumstantial evidence against BM, and have one heck of a convincing closing argument that not only speaks to the weight of the totality of all the evidence against BM, that also drives home the point that no one had the motive, means and opportunity nor anything to gain from SM’s murder, except the defendant, her husband, BM.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
  • #938
I don't think it was an exhibit, but I can't remember if it was a PH tweet or a headline. Again, still looking for the original source.
Respectfully, all the texts here would be admitted into evidence as Exhibits. I'm sure the agent that introduced this specific message by SM during the PH had the exhibit to reference-- allowing both sides to follow along.

If you have the PH transcript, take note LS tweet about the same was during the PH testimony on 8/10 -- after lunchtime MST.
 
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  • #939
However the partial DNA, the DNA on the RR dash, also calle the "forensic sample" excludes the unknown male that committed the 3 sex assaults.

Something we discovered on the McStay case is there is an emerging industry of taking partial or degraded DNA, and then pretending that must be the DNA of the "real killer", even where there is no proof it is related to the case, and isn't linked to any tangible suspect.

It's kind of like the reverse of the latest science to match degraded or mixed samples to a known suspect but here you link it to no one in particular
 
  • #940
A good question is how would any male DNA be on the glove compartment?

Loading the bicycle in the car at the bike mechanics.
Car wash.
Car maintenance. Then there is the plant business that they apparently had.
Did a worker load things in her car?

Did Barry transfer touch DNA from the Pizza box while sitting in the front seat?

Did she loan the car in the last weeks?
 
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