Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o Prejudice* #103

[Love Never Fails]

BBM
ITA. There have been mass murderers, including Hitler and Jim Jones; serial killers, Gary Ridgway, Dennis Rader and many more; they were all professed devout Christians. IMO Barry’s Christianity doesn’t exclude him from the act of murder.

Yes and point is, they were not Christians, only professors of Christianity. Huge difference.

 

[CGray123]

I've been watching to see if BM follows up on the threat to sue everyone involved in his arrest and prosecution. I think the applicable limitations statute for most of his stated claims is two years (Colo. Rev. Stat. § 13-80-102(1)), counted from the date of BM's arrest. I always thought the notice of claims was a PR stunt. If not, the clock is ticking!

 

[justtrish]

Thank you for your comments and for being on WS. Nice to have a friend of Suzanne’s family here.

While I grew up in the South and believe to this day that a real man is the head of the household, Barry nowhere fits the description of a real man. A Christian man is kind and gentle, loves his wife, treats her like a queen and if she went to him and said it’s over, though his heart might break, he would want her to be happy and let her go. There aren’t many men like that but I know a few. They don’t control, abuse or commit murder.

Yes! I think we can gain a good understanding by listening to what others say about Barry and comparing it to Barry's own actions and words. He might feel he is the "Christian head of household", but his views of this concept could be very warped. We see this with other religious beliefs when we see acts of violence committed in the name of some religion or religious belief. Just because a person professes that does not make that the belief of that religion as a whole. Religion is used in so many ways both good and bad in our society. We can use it to gain insight into how a person thinks or what their motive might be, but it can't be used a a broad stroke to paint one picture.

I think Barry used religion as a manipulation for when he needed to control others or get them to believe one thing about him. He wanted his image to be one thing and he did and said things to get people to believe that, but in private I think he was something else entirely.

 

[MassGuy]

I think the situation might be similar to those described in No Stone Unturned

In other words they have a general lead on an area - but it might be quite big. So for example, if you have intel someone is buried in a field in a particular area - finding exactly where is still a challenge - you can't dig up the whole field. Mountainous areas are even more challenging.

e.g they might be wanting drones to look for disturbances so need no snow cover

Yup. If anyone can find her, Necrosearch can.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Yup. If anyone can find her, Necrosearch can.

Wasn't Necrosearch mentioned as one of the original search efforts a couple years ago when Suzanne went missing? If any searches do occur it will be interesting if they will be in a different area than originally searched and if so how that "fits" with existing known facts.

 

[MassGuy]

Wasn't Necrosearch mentioned as one of the original search efforts a couple years ago when Suzanne went missing? If any searches do occur it will be interesting if they will be in a different area than originally searched and if so how that "fits" with existing known facts.

Yes. We first heard of them in the AA, when the dog hits on the Bobcat were discussed. I don't think they were mentioned in any press releases though, as that would have set off alarm bells with me.

Typically they are brought in long after a crime, sometimes decades later. That's why I was thrilled they were involved from the beginning, as I've never seen that before.

Like our boy Jonny, these guys are tenacious. I'm sure they're still looking too.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Yes. We first heard of them in the AA, when the dog hits on the Bobcat were discussed. I don't think they were mentioned in any press releases though, as that would have set off alarm bells with me.

Typically they are brought in long after a crime, sometimes decades later. That's why I was thrilled they were involved from the beginning, as I've never seen that before.

Like our boy Jonny, these guys are tenacious. I'm sure they're still looking too.

That would be wondaful if they were to come back to a narrowed down location and LE were able to get a search warrant if the location is privately held. People have alot more confidence than I that they actually have a narrowed down location. I hope I eat crow on that one.

 

[Love Never Fails]

That would be wondaful if they were to come back to a narrowed down location and LE were able to get a search warrant if the location is privately held. People have alot more confidence than I that they actually have a narrowed down location. I hope I eat crow on that one.

On behalf of all of us who believe that clown, BM, was smart enough to hide her body well, it is my hope she is found and we all eat crow. Bodies can be found years later. I hope it’s really soon though. I’m waiting every day for the CBI, the sheriff, and the DA to come together with an absolute case and LS can refile.
He committed this murder. No doubt about it.

P.S. and praying for a fair judge who won’t gut the case by taking expert witnesses away.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

On behalf of all of us who believe that clown, BM, was smart enough to hide her body well, it is my hope she is found and we all eat crow. Bodies can be found years later. I hope it’s really soon though. I’m waiting every day for the CBI, the sheriff, and the DA to come together with an absolute case and LS can refile.
He committed this murder. No doubt about it.

P.S. and praying for a fair judge who won’t gut the case by taking expert witnesses away.

I am curious about how much support they can get from CBI since the failed attempt to bring to trial :-( . I wonder if they do find her someday if they can actually tie it to Barry or if it only solves the "is she alive is she deceased" question. I hope they find her for closure for the families. But I've been a touch concerned about this legal case since day one.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I am curious about how much support they can get from CBI since the failed attempt to bring to trial :-( . I wonder if they do find her someday if they can actually tie it to Barry or if it only solves the "is she alive is she deceased" question. I hope they find her for closure for the families. But I've been a touch concerned about this legal case since day one.

If they find Suzanne’s body, I feel pretty sure the big question would be who the heck else would have murdered her?

 

[Love Never Fails]

I am curious about how much support they can get from CBI since the failed attempt to bring to trial :-( . I wonder if they do find her someday if they can actually tie it to Barry or if it only solves the "is she alive is she deceased" question. I hope they find her for closure for the families. But I've been a touch concerned about this legal case since day one.

I know you have had doubts about the case. As for closure, everyone on both sides know she is dead. If finding her helps get a conviction that’s even better.

I believe I read that Sheriff Spezee has called Agent Grusing out of retirement to get this back to trial. I’m not good at remembering where I read things. It wasn’t social media so I cannot confirm it. So I better leave it right there so as not to break TOS rules.

It’s my opinion BM will be convicted with or without the body.

 

[MassGuy]

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This crime was about power and control. Barry lost both of those things, and resorted to murder.

If Barry viewed Suzanne as an equal partner, a person capable of making decisions that he should respect, then this simply doesn't happen, and we wouldn't have wonderful lines like this:

Barry said, "And I wouldn't. I mean, if she said, 'Hey, we're gonna have a talk about this [divorce] tonight,' which she never did, I would say, 'I'm not discussin' this cause it's never gonna happen."' Pg 89.

This isn't "feeling hostile towards someone..." it feels more like "projection" to me.

There is no shortage of evidence that this viewpoint is correct, and one can look at that evidence and use logic to come to a perfectly reasonable and well supported conclusion that Barry was obsessed with image, and was a manipulator.

Like when he repeatedly expressed concerns about what Suzanne was telling others about the state of their marriage.

His damage control whenever a negative story hit the press.

Telling guests that his daughter was the only virgin in college, as one does at the dinner table.

Telling investigators that "Suzanne had an orgasm everytime..."

Using his daughters to further his interests, by dragging them into arguments, and having one run interference with a reporter, regardless of how upset this would make her (precisely the point).

Big house. Nice cars. The perfect family.

Nothing but a facade...

 

[mrjitty]

Yes. We first heard of them in the AA, when the dog hits on the Bobcat were discussed. I don't think they were mentioned in any press releases though, as that would have set off alarm bells with me.

Typically they are brought in long after a crime, sometimes decades later. That's why I was thrilled they were involved from the beginning, as I've never seen that before.

Like our boy Jonny, these guys are tenacious. I'm sure they're still looking too.

As we know from that book, the key is the intel on where to look.

Knowing what we know about the accused, I would not be surprised if he said or did something stupid in the last year that might have given them a new lead

 

[mrjitty]

If they find Suzanne’s body, I feel pretty sure the big question would be who the heck else would have murdered her?

Yes. e.g. if they find the body way out the back of PP, then the bike staging is a huge huge problem.

 

[MassGuy]

As we know from that book, the key is the intel on where to look.

Knowing what we know about the accused, I would not be surprised if he said or did something stupid in the last year that might have given them a new lead

Yup. It could be human intelligence, but it could also be digital evidence.

We do know that Suzanne's Range Rover telematics came in fairly late in the proceedings, so perhaps that factored in.

Something we need to remember too, is that upon arrest, his devices would have been probably been seized for a second time. It's possible that data from those downloads gave them an idea (location, google searches, etc).

He had a limited time window with which to do this, so they know she's within a certain radius. It's all about narrowing that down much further.

 

[BeckyF]

DBM

 

[Trackergd]

Yes. e.g. if they find the body way out the back of PP, then the bike staging is a huge huge problem.

If the remains are found out back of PP, that supports the bike staging as being by the actor. There is enough forensic evidence from the crime scene investigation to prove it was not an animal attack and print evidence most likely did not suggest abduction or the investigation would have gone another direction. Lucky that the actor in this case opened his fat yapper and floated the animal attack scenario and publicly said LE messed up the crime scene.

To me, the back country behind PP would be an ideal location to hide remains, with the various job sites being secondary. The back country allows the actor to take his time and do a through job with whatever equipment he needed. Damage to a component of the skip loader may suggest that he moved some heavy rocks in the process. Having access to a post hole digger attachment for the skip loader has the advantage of providing for a vertical burial that would be harder to detect with Ground Penetrating Radar and could be easily covered with a large bolder.

 

[GatorFL]

If the remains are found out back of PP, that supports the bike staging as being by the actor. There is enough forensic evidence from the crime scene investigation to prove it was not an animal attack and print evidence most likely did not suggest abduction or the investigation would have gone another direction. Lucky that the actor in this case opened his fat yapper and floated the animal attack scenario and publicly said LE messed up the crime scene.

To me, the back country behind PP would be an ideal location to hide remains, with the various job sites being secondary. The back country allows the actor to take his time and do a through job with whatever equipment he needed. Damage to a component of the skip loader may suggest that he moved some heavy rocks in the process. Having access to a post hole digger attachment for the skip loader has the advantage of providing for a vertical burial that would be harder to detect with Ground Penetrating Radar and could be easily covered with a large bolder.

I don't think Barry drove his Bobcat up the mountain in the middle of the night. They're not that quiet and so the neighbors would have heard.

 

[Nikynoo]

If the remains are found out back of PP, that supports the bike staging as being by the actor. There is enough forensic evidence from the crime scene investigation to prove it was not an animal attack and print evidence most likely did not suggest abduction or the investigation would have gone another direction. Lucky that the actor in this case opened his fat yapper and floated the animal attack scenario and publicly said LE messed up the crime scene.

To me, the back country behind PP would be an ideal location to hide remains, with the various job sites being secondary. The back country allows the actor to take his time and do a through job with whatever equipment he needed. Damage to a component of the skip loader may suggest that he moved some heavy rocks in the process. Having access to a post hole digger attachment for the skip loader has the advantage of providing for a vertical burial that would be harder to detect with Ground Penetrating Radar and could be easily covered with a large bolder.

I agree. I think it more likely to be nearer PP than in a mine somewhere.

 

[crhedBngr]

I don't think Barry drove his Bobcat up the mountain in the middle of the night. They're not that quiet and so the neighbors would have heard.

I've reread @Trackergd 's post several times. Nowhere in said post is it stated that Barry drove his Bobcat up the mountain in the middle of the night.

JMVHO.