Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o Prejudice* #103

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  • #21
Sorry I am not familiar with "A far amount of "trash - clothing, sleeping bags and all sorts of personal items turn up along the Colorado trail and things were found and documented by searchers."

What of Suzanne's was found along a trail and documented by searchers, except for her bicycle and helmet?

Where was her sleeping bag and clothing found?
Absolutely nothing of hers was found, other than the helmet and bike. Andy's search turned up things like discarded clothing, but none of it was ever connected to Suzanne.
 
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The DA can refile the charges but unless they have better evidence than before, I can't see how BM can be convicted.

I feel that stranger abduction is a possibility and could cause reasonable doubt in a jury. Her bicycle and helmet were found along the road, where they were possibly tossed by an abductor. I know that others who are convinced BM murdered her, think these items were tossed by BM. Still, I don't see how this can be proved.

I don't believe there is any history of domestic violence against BM, or of any other crimes that I am aware of. Not counting the "short gun" charge and also BMs voting for Suzanne, which frankly were only filed against BM because they thought he murdered SM.

I find it difficult to believe that a Christian man with no history of violence is going to murder the mother of his two children, his wife of 26 years. It just doesn't ring true to me. Especially because his two children are so strongly supportive of their father. Why would they publicly support the murderer of their mother? BM and SMs marriage wasn't perfect for sure but murder?

(BM) was careless in talking so much to investigators, and investigators are skilled in tripping up targets with their own words, but if he really killed Suanne, I think he would just get an attorney and keep quiet, not answering any questions from the police. Instead he talked and talked, not really the actions of a guilty man.

I recall the prosecution saying that they knew where Suzanne's body was, and that she was buried under the snow, but as soon as they snow melted, they hoped to find her. How is that going? Are they still close to finding her?

Although Suzanne's disappearance is a mystery and she is likely deceased, who did it? The prosecutions theory--she was tranquilized by BM and murdered away from her home--doesn't make sense to me. Stranger abduction is just as likely in my view.

Many posters mock BM as some low-intelligence knucklehead. The venom in their posts have led me to block some posters so I can read this thread without being disturbed by their open hatred and mockery.
Who thinks BM is a trailblazing criminal? There is not one single case in the history of crime where the murderer first shot the victim with a tranquilizer gun to subdue her. Zero cases.

There are so many unanswered questions. Certainly not enough evidence to convict a man of murder.
Here’s a few…

Colo. Woman Kills Dad with Animal Tranquilizer, Encases Body in Concrete to Cover up Crime

Con Artist With 113-Page Rap Sheet Kills Husband With Horse Tranquilizers, Buries Body In Vineyard | Oxygen Official Site

Man infamous for killing wife with horse tranquilizer in 1980 dies in Jackson prison hospital
 
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The DA can refile the charges but unless they have better evidence than before, I can't see how BM can be convicted.

I feel that stranger abduction is a possibility and could cause reasonable doubt in a jury. Her bicycle and helmet were found along the road, where they were possibly tossed by an abductor. I know that others who are convinced BM murdered her, think these items were tossed by BM. Still, I don't see how this can be proved.

I don't believe there is any history of domestic violence against BM, or of any other crimes that I am aware of. Not counting the "short gun" charge and also BMs voting for Suzanne, which frankly were only filed against BM because they thought he murdered SM.

I find it difficult to believe that a Christian man with no history of violence is going to murder the mother of his two children, his wife of 26 years. It just doesn't ring true to me. Especially because his two children are so strongly supportive of their father. Why would they publicly support the murderer of their mother? BM and SMs marriage wasn't perfect for sure but murder?

(BM) was careless in talking so much to investigators, and investigators are skilled in tripping up targets with their own words, but if he really killed Suanne, I think he would just get an attorney and keep quiet, not answering any questions from the police. Instead he talked and talked, not really the actions of a guilty man.

I recall the prosecution saying that they knew where Suzanne's body was, and that she was buried under the snow, but as soon as they snow melted, they hoped to find her. How is that going? Are they still close to finding her?

Although Suzanne's disappearance is a mystery and she is likely deceased, who did it? The prosecutions theory--she was tranquilized by BM and murdered away from her home--doesn't make sense to me. Stranger abduction is just as likely in my view.

Many posters mock BM as some low-intelligence knucklehead. The venom in their posts have led me to block some posters so I can read this thread without being disturbed by their open hatred and mockery.
Who thinks BM is a trailblazing criminal? There is not one single case in the history of crime where the murderer first shot the victim with a tranquilizer gun to subdue her. Zero cases.

There are so many unanswered questions. Certainly not enough evidence to convict a man of murder.
As has been stated many times by others on this forum, Barry would have to be the unluckiest guy in the world for some stranger to just happen to kidnap/kill Suzanne when she disappeared. The week after she had asked for a divorce, sent the lengthy text to her sister.....Barry had the motive and means and well, he puts himself right there by his own admission with a weapon in his hand when Suzanne does dark.

I have no idea where his daughters are coming from. God knows what they have been through.

Barry didn't have to be a genius to kill and hide Suzanne. For God's sake, he said he never missed when he shot at something and he had landscaping equipment available to him that most people don't and the expansive wilderness around his home.

And just because there was no domestic violence calls to police, doesn't mean it wasn't happening. Many women are afraid to call the police on their husband until its too late.
 
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The DA can refile the charges but unless they have better evidence than before, I can't see how BM can be convicted.

I feel that stranger abduction is a possibility and could cause reasonable doubt in a jury. Her bicycle and helmet were found along the road, where they were possibly tossed by an abductor. I know that others who are convinced BM murdered her, think these items were tossed by BM. Still, I don't see how this can be proved.

I don't believe there is any history of domestic violence against BM, or of any other crimes that I am aware of. Not counting the "short gun" charge and also BMs voting for Suzanne, which frankly were only filed against BM because they thought he murdered SM.

I find it difficult to believe that a Christian man with no history of violence is going to murder the mother of his two children, his wife of 26 years. It just doesn't ring true to me. Especially because his two children are so strongly supportive of their father. Why would they publicly support the murderer of their mother? BM and SMs marriage wasn't perfect for sure but murder?

(BM) was careless in talking so much to investigators, and investigators are skilled in tripping up targets with their own words, but if he really killed Suanne, I think he would just get an attorney and keep quiet, not answering any questions from the police. Instead he talked and talked, not really the actions of a guilty man.

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Although Suzanne's disappearance is a mystery and she is likely deceased, who did it? The prosecutions theory--she was tranquilized by BM and murdered away from her home--doesn't make sense to me. Stranger abduction is just as likely in my view.

<modsnip>

There are so many unanswered questions. Certainly not enough evidence to convict a man of murder.
How did the stranger cause Suzanne's phone activity to cease the previous day, create all the cell phone and truck activity when Barry was allegedly sleeping, force Barry to turn left to the helmet location, and give Barry a hilarious alibi?

How did he manage to force Barry to tell countless proven lies?

Why would he disappear (likely burn) her journal?

Why did Barry tell the Ritters and CBI that he was at the wall when he got that phone call, when he was really in his hotel room the whole time?

Why did Suzanne go on a bike ride with a powered down phone, at a strange location, without things she would always bring?

How did he manage to cause Suzanne's cell phone activity to cease just before Barry left the house?

Barry should have been alibied right away. All investigators would have needed was a single sign of life from Suzanne when Barry was in Broomfield.

Of course there wasn't any...
 
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Sorry I am not familiar with "A far amount of "trash - clothing, sleeping bags and all sorts of personal items turn up along the Colorado trail and things were found and documented by searchers."

What of Suzanne's was found along a trail and documented by searchers, except for her bicycle and helmet?

Where was her sleeping bag and clothing found?
Nothing of Suzanne's that we are aware of. The original poster was asking about a tshirt that was found.
 
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How did the stranger cause Suzanne's phone activity to cease the previous day, create all the cell phone and truck activity when Barry was allegedly sleeping, force Barry to turn left to the helmet location, and give Barry a hilarious alibi?

How did he manage to force Barry to tell countless proven lies?

Why would he disappear (likely burn) her journal?

Why did Barry tell the Ritters and CBI that he was at the wall when he got that phone call, when he was really in his hotel room the whole time?

Why did Suzanne go on a bike ride with a powered down phone, at a strange location, without things she would always bring?

How did he manage to cause Suzanne's cell phone activity to cease just before Barry left the house?

Barry should have been alibied right away. All investigators would have needed was a single sign of life from Suzanne when Barry was in Broomfield.

Of course there wasn't any...
All of this above and why did he take her charger? For a stranger abductor they would also have to be at the house. If an abductor made it into the the house, why bother to stage the bike?? To fool who? The usual MO is to get away as fast as possible, not hang around a crime scene/kidnapping.

Did they really drive to a town with a population of 110 people in hopes of finding a woman alone on Mother's day and randomly find Suzanne ?
 
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Sorry, probably I wasn't clear in what I said, and I do appreciate you taking the time to look up and post those 3 cases, in which an animal tranquilizer was administered to a victim orally, probably in food or drink.

However, the allegation in this case, is that BM shot SM with an animal tranquilizer via a dart gun, and then after she was unconscious, transported her somewhere else (unknown place) and murdered her there, and disposed of her body.

What I said earlier is that this is very improbable. I noted that in my opinion and based on my internet searches and asking people on the internet, was that there has not been a single recorded case in the annals of crime where a victim was darted with animal tranquilizer via a tranq gun, and then moved off site and murdered elsewhere. Which is what I believe is the prosecutions theory on how SM was murdered by BM, and which in my opinion is why they will not get a conviction on BM, unless they find SMs body and can link it to BM murdering her.

My opinion only.
 
  • #29
You are correct.
Where I was coming from is …WHY did he never think/say/ she might of ran off?
She could of left simply because she was unhappy….Or had a secret b/f.
IMO he knew she did not and he was setting up his narrative.

MOO
Yes because suggesting that would indicate that Suzanne wasn’t happy with Barry. He didn’t want LE, or anyone else, to think their marriage was anything but blissful because that would be motive.

IMO Barry knew Suzanne had someone else long before he had to act shocked and dismayed to hear it from LE.
 
  • #30
How did the stranger cause Suzanne's phone activity to cease the previous day, create all the cell phone and truck activity when Barry was allegedly sleeping, force Barry to turn left to the helmet location, and give Barry a hilarious alibi?

How did he manage to force Barry to tell countless proven lies?

Why would he disappear (likely burn) her journal?

Why did Barry tell the Ritters and CBI that he was at the wall when he got that phone call, when he was really in his hotel room the whole time?

Why did Suzanne go on a bike ride with a powered down phone, at a strange location, without things she would always bring?

How did he manage to cause Suzanne's cell phone activity to cease just before Barry left the house?

Barry should have been alibied right away. All investigators would have needed was a single sign of life from Suzanne when Barry was in Broomfield.

Of course there wasn't any...

About her phone, its possible SM just turned off her phone. Maybe she was tired and wanted to take a nap and didn't want her phone to disturb her. Maybe when she woke up, she left her phone off, and put it into her pocket still off when leaving for a bike ride. Its possible.

Not everyone is glued to their phones 100% of the time. When I sleep at night I turn my phone off. When I wake in the morning I leave my turned off phone on my night table while I get started feeding the animals and tending the garden(I live on a small farm). Sometimes hours go past before I go to retrieve my phone and turn it on.

The rest of what you say, about his truck movements, etc., I am not certain except to say that BM made a huge mistake in speaking to the police under those circumstances. Police can tell lies during questioning, and there are numerous cases of police railroading innocent people into confessing, etc. Despite the days of questioning, BM never confessed.

And I am not saying that BM could not have killed his wife--just that it seems unlikely to me, and that there isn't evidence to support it.
 
  • #31
Sorry, probably I wasn't clear in what I said, and I do appreciate you taking the time to look up and post those 3 cases, in which an animal tranquilizer was administered to a victim orally, probably in food or drink.

However, the allegation in this case, is that BM shot SM with an animal tranquilizer via a dart gun, and then after she was unconscious, transported her somewhere else (unknown place) and murdered her there, and disposed of her body.

What I said earlier is that this is very improbable. I noted that in my opinion and based on my internet searches and asking people on the internet, was that there has not been a single recorded case in the annals of crime where a victim was darted with animal tranquilizer via a tranq gun, and then moved off site and murdered elsewhere. Which is what I believe is the prosecutions theory on how SM was murdered by BM, and which in my opinion is why they will not get a conviction on BM, unless they find SMs body and can link it to BM murdering her.

My opinion only.

This is a no-body homicide case where the investigation remains fluid. Just like the prosecution removed the gun from the discovery motion as a source to fire a tranquilizer dart possibly used to incapacitate SM, the Rx remains in evidence whether injected by hand, dart or ingested for that matter.

The prosecutor need not prove exactly how the serum entered SM's body. Instead, the jury can ponder that BM recently used the Rx to sedate a deer in his yard, the same Rx was located in the garage when SM disappeared, and being sedated and/or incapacitated can explain why there was no evidence of a disturbance or struggle inside the house.

OP's argument to completely reject that SM was incapacitated by deer tranquilizer Rx available and used only weeks earlier, by BM's own admission, is flawed and without basis. It ignores both the evidence and the facts of the case.

It's fine to interrupt the evidence differently but I don't understand arguing that the evidence does not exist. Makes no sense to me. MOO

ETA: For example, I don't believe that SM's bicycle recovered from the ravine was the result of SM crashing her bike there but It would make no sense for me to argue the bike is not evidence. Many believe SM crashed and disappeared from the trail. I'm just not one of them. :)
 
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  • #32
About her phone, its possible SM just turned off her phone. Maybe she was tired and wanted to take a nap and didn't want her phone to disturb her. Maybe when she woke up, she left her phone off, and put it into her pocket still off when leaving for a bike ride. Its possible.

Not everyone is glued to their phones 100% of the time. When I sleep at night I turn my phone off. When I wake in the morning I leave my turned off phone on my night table while I get started feeding the animals and tending the garden(I live on a small farm). Sometimes hours go past before I go to retrieve my phone and turn it on.

The rest of what you say, about his truck movements, etc., I am not certain except to say that BM made a huge mistake in speaking to the police under those circumstances. Police can tell lies during questioning, and there are numerous cases of police railroading innocent people into confessing, etc. Despite the days of questioning, BM never confessed.

And I am not saying that BM could not have killed his wife--just that it seems unlikely to me, and that there isn't evidence to support it.
Do you have kids? I mean that sincerely-the two Morphew daughters were out of town on a trip. One was still in high school at the time. I cannot imagine turning my phone off and making myself unreachable to my children when they were away. I guess if they had a house phone or if their Dad was always with their mother, I could buy it. But for more than a day? Suzanne’s phone-and her charger-are gone. Why would she take her charger on a bike ride? She wasn’t going to go to the local cafe cause of Covid.
 
  • #33
About her phone, its possible SM just turned off her phone. Maybe she was tired and wanted to take a nap and didn't want her phone to disturb her. Maybe when she woke up, she left her phone off, and put it into her pocket still off when leaving for a bike ride. Its possible.

Not everyone is glued to their phones 100% of the time. When I sleep at night I turn my phone off. When I wake in the morning I leave my turned off phone on my night table while I get started feeding the animals and tending the garden(I live on a small farm). Sometimes hours go past before I go to retrieve my phone and turn it on.

The rest of what you say, about his truck movements, etc., I am not certain except to say that BM made a huge mistake in speaking to the police under those circumstances. Police can tell lies during questioning, and there are numerous cases of police railroading innocent people into confessing, etc. Despite the days of questioning, BM never confessed.

And I am not saying that BM could not have killed his wife--just that it seems unlikely to me, and that there isn't evidence to support it.
That's precisely why SA Hoyland asked for cell phone records going back several weeks; it's not about our patterns, but the victim/suspect's.

Both of them broke all established patterns on the days in question.

Suzanne was talking to her friend about the wedding the next day, and communicating with her lover. Then she goes dark forever.

Meanwhile, Barry's typical phone activity at night was 0-2 location events. On the night in question however, it was 200.

In order to believe Barry is innocent, one must believe countless things that border between unusual and absurd.

For example, you think it's likely that a woman who just asked for a divorce, ate a steak off the same plate as her husband, and they had the perfect night?

Do you believe the elk, Turkey, chipmunk, deer, coyote, and bear excuses?

Do you believe innocent people start telling lies before they should have even known a crime was committed?
 
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So we're now in the middle of June and there has been NOTHING. I'm really starting to believe they don't have a clue where Susan is. It was all a bluff. Hope I'm wrong but checking the snow coverage map it sure looks like there isn't much snow left around Salida. Now, I'm no expert on snow coverage so maybe I'm not reading this correctly but it sure looks like anything within a 20 mile radius of Salida is clear. Weather has been in the 80's. You have to go up pretty high to find snow pack.

Now if bM buried Susan somewhere up in the elevations in May, by himself logic would dictate that that same area would be clear of snow by now wouldn't it? Ok, I'll give a couple of weeks give or take for maybe a year having more snow than another but we all know this doesn't pass the smell test..AT ALL. How was bM able to do that by himself while the cops with all their personnel, volunteer's and equipment NOT be able to access the same area? They have nothing I'm afraid.

 
  • #35
CrimeOnline has viewed a message that was sent to members of the Morphew’s former church in Indiana, requesting prayers.... The message notes that Morphew’s bike was found “crashed,” and mentions that a mountain lion had been seen in the area where the bike was discovered. “Barry is just beside himself and so are the rest of us because they can’t find her,” the message, sent on May 11, reads..

BARRY MORPHEW [to Draper]: The first night there was a mountain lion that officers seen that walked by the car. So, we thought that maybe she got attacked by a lion.

For the record, that didn't happen, no WE, Barry asked and they said no
(40-45 sec mark)

Barry was lying from the get-go.

I agree that lots of people aren't married to their phones. To me, I find it
impossible to believe Suzanne, just powered down her phone considering her precious daughters were away on a trip, her husband's recent threat of suicide, and then she chose to ignore a dear friends wedding, and lastly we suddenly find Jeff was persona non grata . Not Happening IMO.

On May 9, 2020, the day before Mother's Day, records show Suzanne Morphew and Jeff Libler messaged each other 59 times.
 
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  • #36
CrimeOnline has viewed a message that was sent to members of the Morphew’s former church in Indiana, requesting prayers.... The message notes that Morphew’s bike was found “crashed,” and mentions that a mountain lion had been seen in the area where the bike was discovered. “Barry is just beside himself and so are the rest of us because they can’t find her,” the message, sent on May 11, reads..

BARRY MORPHEW [to Draper]: The first night there was a mountain lion that officers seen that walked by the car. So, we thought that maybe she got attacked by a lion.

For the record, that didn't happen, no WE, Barry asked and they said no
(40-45 sec mark)

Barry was lying from the get-go.

I agree that lots of people aren't married to their phones. To me, I find it
impossible to believe Suzanne, just powered down her phone considering her precious daughters away on a trip, her husband's recent threat of suicide, and then chose to ignore a dear friends wedding, and we suddenly find Jeff was persona non grata . Not Happening IMO.

On May 9, 2020, the day before Mother's Day, records show Suzanne Morphew and Jeff Libler messaged each other 59 times.
I think one of my favorite lies is when he told the media (I think Lauren) that he was never asked to take a polygraph. I called BS on that right away, as it's standard protocol in a case like this.

As we later learned, not only was he asked to take one and refused, but he commented to a friend that he didn't think he'd pass...
 
  • #37
The DA can refile the charges but unless they have better evidence than before, I can't see how BM can be convicted.

I feel that stranger abduction is a possibility and could cause reasonable doubt in a jury. Her bicycle and helmet were found along the road, where they were possibly tossed by an abductor. I know that others who are convinced BM murdered her, think these items were tossed by BM. Still, I don't see how this can be proved.

I don't believe there is any history of domestic violence against BM, or of any other crimes that I am aware of. Not counting the "short gun" charge and also BMs voting for Suzanne, which frankly were only filed against BM because they thought he murdered SM.

<modsnip> Especially because his two children are so strongly supportive of their father. Why would they publicly support the murderer of their mother? BM and SMs marriage wasn't perfect for sure but murder?

(BM) was careless in talking so much to investigators, and investigators are skilled in tripping up targets with their own words, but if he really killed Suanne, I think he would just get an attorney and keep quiet, not answering any questions from the police. Instead he talked and talked, not really the actions of a guilty man.

<modsnip - no link to statement>

Although Suzanne's disappearance is a mystery and she is likely deceased, who did it? The prosecutions theory--she was tranquilized by BM and murdered away from her home--doesn't make sense to me. Stranger abduction is just as likely in my view.

<modsnip>

There are so many unanswered questions. Certainly not enough evidence to convict a man of murder.
So the AA is full of falsehoods and made up evidence? And BM would never have been charged with voter fraud if he had not been arrested on a charge of first degree murder of the person whose vote he stole?

Men who are married for 26 years don't murder their wives? Children of a parent charged with murder of their other parent who support the alleged murderer are always right?

Because the circumstantial case against this man is very well-supported, I would assume your defense would have to be that the likelihood of his guilt is mitigated by the extreme rarity of someone similarly situated being guilty.

If you don't want to believe the evidence, that's your prerogative. If you find this man's character to be so beyond reproach that his wife's known fear of him was just a fantasy, that's your prerogative.

Respectfully, coming into this forum, which is rigorous and open to any evidence, and offering no proof of your theory while piles of shady behavior that could scale a Colorado 14er are in evidence is just silly IMO.

All his lawyer has to defend him with is avoidance of truth and manipulation of known facts.

That tells me that defending the case against him is problematic to the point of guilt being assessed by a jury on the first poll of the jurors after the defense rests, IMO.

Motive - check
Means - check
Opportunity - check

Maybe a perp can be found who has all three to the degree that this defendant does. And maybe her body will be found and settle all doubt.

MOO
 
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  • #38
I think one of my favorite lies is when he told the media (I think Lauren) that he was never asked to take a polygraph. I called BS on that right away, as it's standard protocol in a case like this.

As we later learned, not only was he asked to take one and refused, but he commented to a friend that he didn't think he'd pass...

According to Andy, BM next refused a voice analysis test! I think this also explains why BM was very reluctant to speak on camera to any network.
 
  • #39
<modsnip> Especially because his two children are so strongly supportive of their father. Why would they publicly support the murderer of their mother? BM and SMs marriage wasn't perfect for sure but murder?

(BM) was careless in talking so much to investigators, and investigators are skilled in tripping up targets with their own words, but if he really killed Suanne, I think he would just get an attorney and keep quiet, not answering any questions from the police. Instead he talked and talked, not really the actions of a guilty
man.

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RS and BBM. In more cases than I can remember children of a parent accused of murdering the other parent continue to support the accused parent, even after they are convicted. Robert Neulander case is just one example. Robert Neulander's family displays continued support, children expected to testify

In fact, initially MM2 stated she advised her Mom to separate and get a restraining order.

Yes, he talked and talked, mostly lies. How do you justify that? The first lie was to the people that told him Suzanne was missing when he lied about his whereabouts. How do you justify that?

I’m sure you can research spousal homicide even when the couple appears to just be going through a rough patch, or even when they are not.


 
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May I add:

In January 2005, Davidson reported her husband, Air Force Staff Sgt. Michael Severance, missing. Two months later, Severance's body was found in a pond on a remote ranch about 20 miles outside of San Angelo, Texas, where the couple was living at the time.

Severance's toxicology report revealed that he had been poisoned with animal tranquilizers and then stabbed 41 times posthumously.

 
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