Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w prejudice* #104

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I don’t know one thing about the judge or his marriage.
Until you just said it.
I’m not insinuating anything.
Just noting he is human.
Don’t appreciate you saying I’m insinuating anything.
With respect, I think you misread the posters post.
 
  • #462
Could he have broken her phone in anger?
Remember, he kept asking LE if they found her phone.
possibly. I hadn't thoughts of Mr Jitty's theory, and its a good one. Would Barry have the wherewithal to continue to post though? Would he not be busy with body disposal?

I still think that Suzanne is on the PP plot. I have just been looking at the property details again, because I was wondering whether there was a septic tank. What I did find is that the water source is a well. I wonder whether there are other wells on the property, or just this one?


ETA - re your point about the phone, possibilities include B disposed of it and couldnt find it himself, OR, he thought he had hidden it so well he didn;t expect anyone to find it.
 
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IIRC We know SMs phone turned off for the last time just before BM left PP in his truck in the 3am hour.

So I think he had it with him, he just couldn't get into it.
 
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...I still think that Suzanne is on the PP plot. I have just been looking at the property details again, because I was wondering whether there was a septic tank. What I did find is that the water source is a well. I wonder whether there are other wells on the property, or just this one?

In this link, under Property Details, you will see that the water source is well (as you indicated) and that there is "one" well. 19057 Puma Path, Salida, CO 81242 - 3 beds/3.5 baths

Properties are either well and septic tank or municipal water and sewer according to this link. What You Need To Know About Wells, Septic Systems, and City Water For Your Home
 
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In this link, under Property Details, you will see that the water source is well (as you indicated) and that there is "one" well. 19057 Puma Path, Salida, CO 81242 - 3 beds/3.5 baths

Properties are either well and septic tank or municipal water and sewer according to this link. What You Need To Know About Wells, Septic Systems, and City Water For Your Home
Thanks, but I was wondering whether there were any 'hidden' wells, you know old ones that are capped off or over. I will see if I can locate some sort of 'well' map.
 
  • #466
Thanks, but I was wondering whether there were any 'hidden' wells, you know old ones that are capped off or over. I will see if I can locate some sort of 'well' map.
This link might help. Well Permits
 
  • #467
This link might help. Well Permits
Thanks for this. Am I correct in thinking that a well is made when the plot is built on to enable the plot to have a water source? If the build was relatively recent (2008), then is it unlikely that there would be old 'capped' wells?
 
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possibly. I hadn't thoughts of Mr Jitty's theory, and its a good one. Would Barry have the wherewithal to continue to post though? Would he not be busy with body disposal?

I still think that Suzanne is on the PP plot. I have just been looking at the property details again, because I was wondering whether there was a septic tank. What I did find is that the water source is a well. I wonder whether there are other wells on the property, or just this one?


ETA - re your point about the phone, possibilities include B disposed of it and couldnt find it himself, OR, he thought he had hidden it so well he didn;t expect anyone to find it.
I don’t doubt your suggestion at all. He told his coworker he knew where to bury a body so no one could find it. Who does that? I’m pretty sure it was on their property somewhere. He may be right. Suzanne May never be found.
 
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IIRC We know SMs phone turned off for the last time just before BM left PP in his truck in the 3am hour.

So I think he had it with him, he just couldn't get into it.
It seemed to me BM remained disappointed that the phone was not located. I think he probably deposited SM's phone in the rubbish at Poncha Market and nobody was the wiser -- to his surprise and disappointment!

ETA: This would have been prior to Broomfield and before he returned to the store with the tiny (blue) note.
 
  • #471
OK thanks - I agree with your take.

I suppose it brings me back to my original point that if the Judge didn't want the material in the AA to save time later - in what document should it go?

By far the most prejudicial content was the DV/DA allegations which were in fact subsequently ruled partially inadmissible, so the Judge would appear to be saying this material would only be disclosed from the stand and presumably the supporting exhibits during the Prelim?

But that would mean the Judge himself would not have known about this at the time of arrest, which seems an odd result.

My 02c is you are most likely correct - the Judge was frustrated/grumpy because of the work that potentially needed to happen, but personally I don't believe the AA needed to be redacted at all, because the very same allegations appeared in the public pretrial hearings and supporting documentation where no one is saying they needed to be redacted!
It is up to the prosecution to use the facts of the case to prove guilt. Typically they do use the same facts from the AA at the preliminary. This prosecution had a particularly weak preliminary and at times what they did use was unproven because they were premature with the arrest. But very little characterization or hearsay will make it to trial. They used it to make the case for the arrest but that is only the first step.
 
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I don’t doubt your suggestion at all. He told his coworker he knew where to bury a body so no one could find it. Who does that? I’m pretty sure it was on their property somewhere. He may be right. Suzanne May never be found.

You're right, Suzanne may never be found.
Somehow though, I think he's going to slip up somewhere, he's going to do or say something and it only has to be a small thing, then he's screwed. Eyes are on Barry, ears are listening and someone knows something. He's already looking haggard, he doesn't wear secrets well.
And yes, who the heck makes comments like that?!
 
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In this link, under Property Details, you will see that the water source is well (as you indicated) and that there is "one" well. 19057 Puma Path, Salida, CO 81242 - 3 beds/3.5 baths

Properties are either well and septic tank or municipal water and sewer according to this link. What You Need To Know About Wells, Septic Systems, and City Water For Your Home
We have a well but it is straight down 250 feet to the aquifer and the shaft is very narrow even at the pump head. I would think most modern wells would be of similar design so wondering how a well would factor in this case.
 
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It is up to the prosecution to use the facts of the case to prove guilt. Typically they do use the same facts from the AA at the preliminary. This prosecution had a particularly weak preliminary and at times what they did use was unproven because they were premature with the arrest. But very little characterization or hearsay will make it to trial. They used it to make the case for the arrest but that is only the first step.
For a no-body, and essentially no verifiable crime scene homicide that was bound over for trial, saying the preliminary hearing was particularly weak is a very bold statement. o_O JMO
 
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We have a well but it is straight down 250 feet to the aquifer and the shaft is very narrow even at the pump head. I would think most modern wells would be of similar design so wondering how a well would factor in this case.
I think the wells in that part of Colorado are drilled with maybe a 1" pipe. They have water restrictions/usage limits. Not getting a body down that well.
 
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For a no-body, and essentially no verifiable crime scene homicide, saying the preliminary hearing was particularly weak is a very bold statement. o_O JMO
What makes it a bold statement?
 
  • #477
What makes it a bold statement?
The fact that it was bound over for trial-- following the PH!

ETA: Thanks for your reply @GatorFL. I'll edit my post to make that clear.
 
  • #478
AK is a youtube creator that is not WS approved.
Pardonez moi, but, were I the proverbial maggot, I'd be gagging for sure having ingested this AK chappie's performance. Barf.
And pass me some Pedialyte.
Gallingly slick, imo.

"Now, don't look even try to look for our guys. You'll never see 'em. Don't worry, there out there, and they're out there for you guys. And thanks so much for being here! I've got your backs, so "Let's get going!"...
... [enroute to some useless search locale(s)]. "I'll take you straight to them!"

What a load of self-aggrandizing horse puckies.

So, thenceforth, the BM teamsters/BM are perfectly positioned to limit all/any aqua-searches via the simple mechanisn of AK EX MACHINA descending from the heavens to foretell these skilled but officious samaritans that they ought to boogie for their own safety.:mad:

Know what? I was about to blab [so what's new GOB?]:

'Boy, would I like to see this go the Grand Jury route next time. How about we have the State summon this smarty's butt, and plumb his mens & modus!'
But, thinking a bit more, this guy would be as slick as B-Man himself; we'd learn nothing true and/or substantive. Unless there were some means to restrict his liberty - evasion/obstruction/perjury allegations - he'd be off to his society's favorite watering hole to commune w/ his like-minded citizens, and regale about how very cunning they were/are/forever will be.

Enough to gag a maggot, right @Love Never Fails? ... et alia?
 
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I don’t doubt your suggestion at all. He told his coworker he knew where to bury a body so no one could find it. Who does that? I’m pretty sure it was on their property somewhere. He may be right. Suzanne May never be found.
I wonder if those were his exact words, 'bury a body', and he did, infact, bury Suzanne. Just curious.JMO
 
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I wonder if those were his exact words, 'bury a body', and he did, infact, bury Suzanne. Just curious.JMO
Yes, bury a body, or hide a body? Not quite the same thing.
 
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