Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w prejudice* #104

[annpats]

AWP was scared off searching for Suzanne. They said they saw men on the other side of the river with guns. Snipers. What was that all about?

Well, that is a red flag right there! AWP shouldn't have been scared off and should have come back with LE present to protect them if necessary.

Sounds like AWP were getting too close to the bone and Barry didn't like it ...

MOO.

 

[GOBliaison]

I wonder if those were his exact words, 'bury a body', and he did, infact, bury Suzanne. Just curious.JMO

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[Seattle1]

Old wells were bored in this way back in the day - my grandfather did one in the 50s

If you want to pull water up the bore with a hand pump, the bore needs to be narrow to generate the suction force to pull the water up the pipe from depth!

One way they were done was to place a section of pipe in the ground and then haul a heavy "monkey" into the air and drop it from a frame on to the top of the pipe - ramming its some mm into the ground - then repeat

You can imagine doing this many 100s of times on a hot day!

Relative to the well at PP, we know BM had no part here as wells in CC are separate property deeds conveyed to the new property owner over and over. Only one well at PP.

And no, can't imagine pumping by hand 100's of times on a hot day. But I never imagined driving to Fox for water either. (Alaska).

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

We have a well but it is straight down 250 feet to the aquifer and the shaft is very narrow even at the pump head. I would think most modern wells would be of similar design so wondering how a well would factor in this case.

I was responding to another poster's inquiry. I agree that modern wells would not accommodate a body. I believe that residential wells are between 100-800 feet deep.

That being said, a body would fit down a septic tank opening. I think that the lids are 24 inches. The septic tank is buried. Maybe, Barry's bobcat did some digging. He did plant new trees after or around her disappearance IIRC. Could he have planted some over the septic tank?

JMO.

 

[mrjitty]

I was responding to another poster's inquiry. I agree that modern wells would not accommodate a body. I believe that residential wells are between 100-800 feet deep.

That being said, a body would fit down a septic tank opening. I think that the lids are 24 inches. The septic tank is buried. Maybe, Barry's bobcat did some digging. He did plant new trees after or around her disappearance IIRC. Could he have planted some over the septic tank?

JMO.

There is no one kind of well, and depth all depends on the water table.

We have 2 wells that are more like what you see in movies, created by sinking circular concrete sections into the ground on top of each other until you are about 15m down - these then fill with a few feet of water in the bottom which you can pump up - unlikely PP has this system in that kind of country!

I have the same thing in reverse as a water sink, where i flow all the grey water (e.g off the roof), so we don't get surface flooding in storms

The later kind of drainage 'well" is quite common on rural properties where you don't have access to a waste water system like in the city.

But even if PP has such a sink, it would seem way too obvious to dump a body in there?

If he has something like that for sewerage ... we did see that in the UK

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I was responding to another poster's inquiry. I agree that modern wells would not accommodate a body. I believe that residential wells are between 100-800 feet deep.

That being said, a body would fit down a septic tank opening. I think that the lids are 24 inches. The septic tank is buried. Maybe, Barry's bobcat did some digging. He did plant new trees after or around her disappearance IIRC. Could he have planted some over the septic tank?

JMO.

The lids are larger but not sure the "pipes" that move the effluent are wide enough and the run sufficiently downhill. I vote no on the well...the pipes just aren't big enough to remove the pump and put anything very big down the pipe. I'm thinking they had a conventional septic. Types of Septic Systems | US EPA

 

[MountainDad]

The lids are larger but not sure the "pipes" that move the effluent are wide enough and the run sufficiently downhill. I vote no on the well...the pipes just aren't big enough to remove the pump and put anything very big down the pipe. I'm thinking they had a conventional septic. Types of Septic Systems | US EPA

Yes. Mountainous areas generally have septic tanks. On a home that large it probably be 1200 gallons. The lids are easily accessible. They can be pumped by a truck in a couple hours. LE should have checked the septic, but I have not heard any verification.
Any updates on the determined effort by BM and his family to find out what happened to Suzanne? Over two years of digesting information, timelines of events around that weekend, and all the evidence in the AA, the truth seems obvious.

 

[Seattle1]

I think the following public listing/remarks a good example of what to expect in Maysville:

Public Remarks: Own a piece of historic Maysville Townsite! This lot is close to epic Colorado skiing at Monarch Pass, and acres of San Isabel national Forest and North Fork Reservoir across the Highway up County Road 240. Only 15 minutes to downtown Salida. Flat lot with great views a registered, in house well that recently tested at 8 gpm already in place!

Utilities: Electric Available
Sewer: Septic, Septic Tank

Lots 17 - 20, Maysville, CO 81201

(IRES) For Sale: Lots 17 - 20, Maysville, CO 81201 ∙ $100,000 ∙ MLS# 6091216 ∙ Own a piece of historic Maysville Townsite! This lot is close to epic Colorado skiing at Monarch Pass, and acres of San Isab...

www.redfin.com

 

[jakat]

DBM

 

[Seattle1]

I've also been following the Jennifer Dulos case since she was first reported missing on 5/24/2019. With the exception of JD's blood evidence detected inside her garage and other forensic evidence (bloody clothes) found in various rubbish bins on her estranged husband's route to his residence, the cases are eerily similar and resulted in murder charges against the husband without the recovery of a body.

I read today in the CT Insider about a new podcast for JD's case and it dawned on me that I don't recall any factually based podcasts put out for SM's case (excluding NG). I'm really curious why not. Did BM's well-heeled defense team scare off credible efforts?

ETA: Another similarity is domestic violence and how the state statute was not drafted to support the victim.

Last year, Gov. Ned Lamont signed the Jennifer's Law bill into law, which expanded the Connecticut's definition of domestic violence, which now includes "coercive control." The bill was inspired by both the disappearance of Jennifer Dulos, and the murder of Jennifer Magnano, a Plymouth mom who was shot and killed in front of her kids by her estranged husband, who died later by suicide.

Jennifer Dulos disappearance spotlighted on 'My Favorite Murder' podcast

True crime podcast "My Favorite Murder" spotlighted the Jennifer Dulos disappearance in...

www.ctinsider.com

 

[mrjitty]

I will check that out @Seattle1 !!

I was listening to a podcast on the Sievers murder yesterday and was struck by the fact that GPS was recovered from a tracking device in a car, which had been deleted.

Given that the telematics evidence we saw in this case was the underlying logging of the individual data points, I am wondering what happened to the front end reporting of this stuff

i.e what did BM not just disable some tracking, but actually delete some stuff?

I am very interested whether he deleted the Ford journeys app and tried to reset the truck.

To me this stuff is much more the key to the trial, than finding SM (much as I would want that to happen).

I can only hope the DA is using this break in the case to do more detailed work on this stuff!

 

[Seattle1]

I will check that out @Seattle1 !!

I was listening to a podcast on the Sievers murder yesterday and was struck by the fact that GPS was recovered from a tracking device in a car, which had been deleted.

Given that the telematics evidence we saw in this case was the underlying logging of the individual data points, I am wondering what happened to the front end reporting of this stuff

i.e what did BM not just disable some tracking, but actually delete some stuff?

I am very interested whether he deleted the Ford journeys app and tried to reset the truck.

To me this stuff is much more the key to the trial, than finding SM (much as I would want that to happen).

I can only hope the DA is using this break in the case to do more detailed work on this stuff!

Wow -- that's incredible about the Sievers evidence and definitely something to think about here!

Given the only information about the Ford telematics available to my eyes came from the defense's exhibits, I've remained hopeful that the DA's office has a better collection of data they are working from. Preferably with a control date prior to May 10 and after BM returned from Broomfield. IMO, studying the control data is when you can get a good idea of whether or not data's been deleted. JMO

 

[Auntie Cipation]

I think the following public listing/remarks a good example of what to expect in Maysville:

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Public Remarks: Own a piece of historic Maysville Townsite! This lot is close to epic Colorado skiing at Monarch Pass, and acres of San Isabel national Forest and North Fork Reservoir across the Highway up County Road 240. Only 15 minutes to downtown Salida. Flat lot with great views a registered, in house well that recently tested at 8 gpm already in place!

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Utilities: Electric Available
Sewer: Septic, Septic Tank

Lots 17 - 20, Maysville, CO 81201

(IRES) For Sale: Lots 17 - 20, Maysville, CO 81201 ∙ $100,000 ∙ MLS# 6091216 ∙ Own a piece of historic Maysville Townsite! This lot is close to epic Colorado skiing at Monarch Pass, and acres of San Isab...

www.redfin.com

Earlier in these threads we found the Puma Path well visible in photos or video clips made public. It was at the edge of the 'island' of vegetation in the middle of the driveway/parking area. Diameter-wise, it appeared to be the common 6", matching the photo you have posted here.

 

[Diddian]

I wonder if any documentation is kept for any “perc holes” that might have been dug on the Puma Path property (or other frequently unoccupied nearby properties in the Monarch River Estates) in preparation for installing the septic systems.

We once owned a rural weekend property and I remember the agent warning us to careful with our then four-year-old child as several had been dug on that property and not filled back in. (We scouted, but never found any.)

According to this, they tend to be around 5’ deep.

Septic System Perc Test Hole Specifications

Soil perc test standards / specifications: What are the specifications for soil perc test holes: how deep, what size, etc. What are

inspectapedia.com

 

[Seattle1]

I wonder if any documentation is kept for any “perc holes” that might have been dug on the Puma Path property (or other frequently unoccupied nearby properties in the Monarch River Estates) in preparation for installing the septic systems.

We once owned a rural weekend property and I remember the agent warning us to careful with our then four-year-old child as several had been dug on that property and not filled back in. (We scouted, but never found any.)

According to this, they tend to be around 5’ deep.

Septic System Perc Test Hole Specifications

Soil perc test standards / specifications: What are the specifications for soil perc test holes: how deep, what size, etc. What are

inspectapedia.com

In this case, I think the Monarch River Estates HOA was organized early by the developer when they set out the number of lots for the community and adopted CCRs, etc.

IMO, this was always going to be a development intended for well-heeled buyers to build their stately, private, homes unattainable to most residents of Chaffey County (i.e., organization appealing to part-time residents).

As such, I doubt the owners had to do much groundwork hunting for utility ground markers where they likely had one firm known/approved by the HOA that had a history of securing permits, and inspections. My opinion is specific to Monarch Estates -- can't speak to other areas outside of the plat.

ETA - add Monarch River Plat

https://www.monarchriverestates.org/file/document/881338593/1HjSZll4mBNKzlnA.pdf

 

[mrjitty]

Wow -- that's incredible about the Sievers evidence and definitely something to think about here!

Given the only information about the Ford telematics available to my eyes came from the defense's exhibits, I've remained hopeful that the DA's office has a better collection of data they are working from. Preferably with a control date prior to May 10 and after BM returned from Broomfield. IMO, studying the control data is when you can get a good idea of whether or not data's been deleted. JMO

Yes this is my feeling once more studying the telematics posted by the defence.

For instance, when should we expect to see gearstick and odometer read events?

The gear stick seems to be quite random so I'd like to see some 'normal' control days for comparison.

I wonder if the defence posted incomplete data, or whether what was recovered is messed up or incomplete?

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Yes this is my feeling once more studying the telematics posted by the defence.

For instance, when should we expect to see gearstick and odometer read events?

The gear stick seems to be quite random so I'd like to see some 'normal' control days for comparison.

I wonder if the defence posted incomplete data, or whether what was recovered is messed up or incomplete?

There was quite abit with the snippets of data we saw that bothered me from the first time we saw it. The biggie is there is nothing that showed he turned left in the early AM onto Hwy. 50...the elk story was something he claimed when Grusing said he had data that showed he turned left but we didn't see that left turn in the defense data exhibits. So is it there or not there? I was bothered by doors that seemed to indicate they shut but nothing that said they opened...little things. I was looking forward to at least the trial which might have had more comprehensive data. If that is everything defense got...then I suspect something was held back by prosecuction in discovery...BUT I believe defense had more than what they used in the preliminary and probably had everything. The motions mostly related to not receiving the Range Rover data and not that they were missing data from Barry's vehicle.

 

[Diddian]

There was quite abit with the snippets of data we saw that bothered me from the first time we saw it. The biggie is there is nothing that showed he turned left in the early AM onto Hwy. 50...the elk story was something he claimed when Grusing said he had data that showed he turned left but we didn't see that left turn in the defense data exhibits. So is it there or not there? I was bothered by doors that seemed to indicate they shut but nothing that said they opened...little things. I was looking forward to at least the trial which might have had more comprehensive data. If that is everything defense got...then I suspect something was held back by prosecuction in discovery...BUT I believe defense had more than what they used in the preliminary and probably had everything. The motions mostly related to not receiving the Range Rover data and not that they were missing data from Barry's vehicle.

I think the most reasonable assumption is that the defense only documented in their exhibits (which became accessible to the public) what served - or at least didn't damage - the defense.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I think the most reasonable assumption is that the defense only documented in their exhibits (which became accessible to the public) what served - or at least didn't damage - the defense.

Yes, they really didn't need to do anything more at that time. I expect that given the inconsistencies in the data and the other easily defensible claims, if there is ever another arrest warrant and preliminary we will see quite a different approach and theories. We don't even have all the facts on the DNA and what little we know was never explored - unknown DNA on helmet, bike, seat in Suzanne's car, glove box in Suzanne's car...people that were never tested and excluded and no further mentions of anything but the Suzanne's glove box. Missing mileage from Sunday unaccounted for. Dogs that alerted or didn't alert or tracked or didn't track. There are so many holes, this case is like Swiss Cheese so I totally expect a more buttoned up prosecution.

 

[mrjitty]

I think the most reasonable assumption is that the defense only documented in their exhibits (which became accessible to the public) what served - or at least didn't damage - the defense.

I am fairly sure they submitted an incomplete set of logged events

For instance you get a lat/long GPS ref for events like park lights, door, gearshift

So if you unlock the vehicle, get in and drive off, we'd expect to see all 3 events (including door open and close)

But on the morning on the 7th for Tailwinds arrival we see only one event, and especially the start of that journey is not there. Whereas for RTD bus stop there are 15 events in 2.5 mins

Or DSI on the 9th, you can see the truck arrive with door opening and closing (i.e. barry gets out) - but he never gets back in according to the logs.