Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #56 *ARREST*

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  • #281
Going back to bleach, tools, coolers, dismemberment, antlers with flesh, hot tubs, and hotels, I had an idea that we may not have discussed before. Maybe BM killed SM in the house and dragged her outside somewhere to dismember her and placed her in the missing coolers. He then dumps the tools he used in the hot tub with copious amounts of bleach/ chlorine and runs it for a while to clean them. He empties the hot tub scrubs it down and refills it. He brings the bleached tools to the hotel in Broomfield and leaves them on a hotel cart. He may have brought some additional bleach to the hotel. He reexamines the tools to make sure there is no human residue left and wipes them down again with bleach. He then takes a shower and leaves the wet towels on the floor.
The antlers are brought up to the house to either lure in bobcats to shore up his mountain lion theory or to try and mask cadaverine in that location.
It has always bothered me that MG said she still had the tools from the hotel room at her home. I wonder why they weren’t seized by LE?
MOO
This seems very plausible and connects a lot of the odd pieces together. The need to bleach the tools would only be necessary if they were connected to her (as in a dismemberment) but would leave them in a sad state since bleach is caustic and would cause them to badly corrode and rust.
 
  • #282
The cartoon-trailer look, to me, speaks of either lack of available funds OR (someone pointed out it looked like all ‘his’ stuff) wish to control all his private belongings, and not have them in the possession of the removal people.

Or the move, in the end, was prompted by something that made him hasty. And yes, it does look as if some of that is documents or boxes that could hold records.

^RSBM

I suppose the defense could call in a neurosurgeon to show previous example cases of significant concussive head injuries, with little damage to a bicycle.

I don’t think it will matter much. The prosecution will prove that the bike ride never happened at all, and that Suzanne was already dead before the alleged bike ride was staged.

jmo

I agree it won't matter much - but I don't think it would be easy to find a reputable forensic bike accident person who can testify to this. A neurosurgeon is certainly not going to testify about the status of the bike (which he never saw and it's not his specialty). A judge is really unlikely to allow a doctor to testify about a case in which he wasn't involved - but probably would allow the defense to have a forensic bike accident specialist.

Because the first thing they need to establish is that there was a bike accident (and I don't think they will do that to the satisfaction of the jury, at all). And for that, they don't need a neurosurgeon.

Also, the term "little damage" is still significant - at least in the cases I've read. These days, accident reconstruction is a true science. While it may appear that someone who crashed their head into a sidewalk or curb (the most common kind of head damage while on a bike), and that there's little damage to the bike, there will always be some evidence in the bike itself. When a bike hits a curb hard enough to throw its rider onto cement or pavement, or hits a rock, or bounces down a hill, it does indeed cause microscopic and characteristic patterns of fracture in the spokes and usually the frame itself. Even the way the handlebars land will speak to whether human hands were still holding onto them.

But I don't think LE needs much of this, although it is possible that, on the day they closed the road up that way to search, they could have brought in bike experts to measure and test the slope and do the other things they do to reconstruct the scene, before and after examining the bike microscopically.

If finger prints were wiped from the bike, that would have been known fairly soon - but the DNA on the bike would not have been. Since BM almost certainly won't take the stand in his own trial, the prosecution will be able to show (most likely) that his DNA is on that bike (on the seat, on the seat's underside, on the handlebars - but not in a pattern consistent with riding the bike).

It will paint a vivid picture in the jury's minds, and the only defense will be "well, he was her husband, he helped her load the bike occasionally," whereupon witnesses may be called to testify they never saw Barry do such a chivalrous thing. The only defense to that, IMO, is for Barry to take the stand and say he helped Suzanne load her bike on one or more occasions. But then, he'd have to answer a lot of other questions - so that's not gonna happen.

If it were to come to dueling experts, in which one or more bike experts (with strong, even looking credentials) testify the bike did not go down that slope and land the way it was found with a rider on it, and then a defense expert (whose credentials will certainly be those of someone who always testifies in favor of accused persons), the jury will discount that expert, as they always do (although if the jury has a person on it who always takes the defendant's side in things, it could cause issues).

But I think there's going to be strong evidence that Suzanne was not asleep at 5 am, that she did not go on a bike ride, that she was already dead.
 
  • #283
I took a screenshot from Chris’ YouTube Live from last night. It’s a little fuzzy, but you get the idea. It does look like the Beverly Hillbillys. Lol I also included a pic of the inside of Barry’s Truck full of antlers to sell :)
That looks like all 0f Barry's stuff. How do we know they didn't move the rest of their belongings in a moving van! Either that or they sold the house furnished.
 
  • #284
I took a screenshot from Chris’ YouTube Live from last night. It’s a little fuzzy, but you get the idea. It does look like the Beverly Hillbillys. Lol I also included a pic of the inside of Barry’s Truck full of antlers to sell :)
That looks like all 0f Barry's stuff. How do we know they didn't move the rest of their belongings in a moving van! Either that or they sold the house furnished.
 
  • #285
I'm just wondering how Barry continued to get work.

His trailer looks much like his Broomfield retaining wall, a mess.

Did he continuously cut corners and try to get jobs/things in general done in a hurry/for cheap?

Looks like the only thing he cared about on that trailer was his Bobcat. Sure sad he won't be allowed jailhouse visits with it.
I have thought the same thing...especially when you look at the extremely negative PR over the last year
 
  • #286
I agree, the eyes are still blue.
 
  • #287
bbm
Thanks for this info. !
I had no idea that Barry would already have access to it; per. the defense.
Wonder if he's seething ? :rolleyes:

Agreed about hoping it's released soon !
MOO
CM, I believe, mentioned that Barry would have been given a copy of it. He probably is seething and astounded at the same time. He also probably has a pad of paper and pen noting what he can spin or challenge as he is reading through the document.

I feel certain that he is telling the girls that it is packed full of lies.

JMO.
 
  • #288
I do too being that Suzanne wrote “She was scared” no more was heard from Suzanne after that. I believe there’s a lot more to that text string that is being withheld.

Here’s 45 photos from the Puma Path house that was sold after Suzanne went missing. It gives me the creeps. So isolated. Poor Suzanne. It definitely looks on the masculine. A mans house aka man cave. BM being a landscaper didn’t do much landscaping around their house.

19057 Puma Path, Salida, CO 81242 - 3 beds/3.5 baths
This home is not attractive
imho. It seems so outdated with the colors it’s decorated in, dark like a dungeon, not a very cheery, uplifting environment for me personally. It would cost a fortune to update it because of size. I was never impressed with it. Total man-cave look.
EBM having trouble with double posts today.
 
  • #289
I will join you, if I may ? :)

Just speculating : Penny pinching is one thing, but it appears as if Barry was getting out of Dodge in a big hurry !!
Maybe not.
But in that case, why not just rent a U-haul ?
Imo.

I might be alone in this opinion, but I don't think the messy trailer is a big deal (other than safety-wise, making sure things weren't loose enough to bounce out along the way).

It's clear this trailer is not their entire move -- presumably there would have been a large moving truck with all their furniture, kitchen items, clothing, tools, wall art, girls' belongings, etc.

Not to mention their multiple vehicles. I wonder if they made more than one trip to move everything. Or had to hire out the hauling of extra vehicles since they could each only drive one at a time.

It looks to me like the "extra" space in and around the Bobcat was filled with "guy stuff", maybe from BM's "man cave" or workshop or even a landscaping office if there was one.

Especially if their quantity of regular household stuff was enough that including this extra stuff would have bumped them up to needing a larger size moving truck, I can understand wanting to take advantage of the space already available on the Bobcat trailer.

I would like to see what was carried in the bed of the truck on that trip -- maybe landscaping hand tools? He certainly would have had chainsaw, wheelbarrow(s) etc. Lots more than just the trusty Bobcat...

The awkward inclusion of the gun safe makes me think that the items on the trailer were things BM didn't want the movers touching/seeing...

MOO JMO
 
  • #290
Barry drove that trailer for 18 hours straight to Colorado? A gun safe sitting out in full view would not be something you would leave exposed on a trailer while you are asleep in a motel along the way. The antlers took up the passenger seat and then some, so I imagine there was no second driver for that mess.
 
  • #291
Going back to bleach, tools, coolers, dismemberment, antlers with flesh, hot tubs, and hotels, I had an idea that we may not have discussed before. Maybe BM killed SM in the house and dragged her outside somewhere to dismember her and placed her in the missing coolers. He then dumps the tools he used in the hot tub with copious amounts of bleach/ chlorine and runs it for a while to clean them. He empties the hot tub scrubs it down and refills it. He brings the bleached tools to the hotel in Broomfield and leaves them on a hotel cart. He may have brought some additional bleach to the hotel. He reexamines the tools to make sure there is no human residue left and wipes them down again with bleach. He then takes a shower and leaves the wet towels on the floor.
The antlers are brought up to the house to either lure in bobcats to shore up his mountain lion theory or to try and mask cadaverine in that location.
It has always bothered me that MG said she still had the tools from the hotel room at her home. I wonder why they weren’t seized by LE?
MOO

I'm with you, @OldCop. I figure the best way to excuse having the chlorine smell all over the house is the hot tub. He absolutely could have used it like a bath tub, or even filled it with ice momentarily, washed/cleaned a body and tools, emptied, cleaned, refilled, and left it looking like nothing ever happened, and it would obviously already smell like chlorine. I think that hot tub is going to come into play.
 
  • #292
That looks like all 0f Barry's stuff. How do we know they didn't move the rest of their belongings in a moving van! Either that or they sold the house furnished.
I provided a pic that was requested. Information comes from Chris McDonough. Sorry, I have no answer to your questions. Maybe someone else does. If you haven’t watched Chris’ video from last night, it might help clarify some aspects for you.
EBM to add video link
 
  • #293
Barry drove that trailer for 18 hours straight to Colorado? A gun safe sitting out in full view would not be something you would leave exposed on a trailer while you are asleep in a motel along the way. The antlers took up the passenger seat and then some, so I imagine there was no second driver for that mess.

I don't think he drove this to CO. IMO
 
  • #294
Yeah, I watched most of it and I think that's the same tree pictured in MSM shortly after Andy's search and the excavation on one of Barry's properties. It's not far from the Puma Path home.

I'm still not convinced he'd bury the body so close to home when he had thousands of acres of national forest surrounding him. If he purchased and planted the tree, that would be a direct connection to the body once it was found. And why risk someone passing by on the road and seeing him? I guess he could really be that careless, but from everything we've learned I think he's a careful planner and has hidden the body very well. LE could have dug up that tree a long time ago if they had reason to believe the body was there. Imo

I recall sleuthing the parcel where those little trees were located, and it was IIRC a vacant but privately-owned parcel in the same subdivision where the Puma Path house is.

Even if the owner is absentee out of state (which I think I recall being the case), it seems risky to plant trees (with or without anything nefarious underneath them) on someone else's private land.

At the same time, the likelihood of years passing before anyone noticed or took interest in those trees for any non-murder-investigation reason would be pretty high, so I can envision someone taking that risk.

A private parcel with no obvious disturbance would be less likely to have casual hikers passing by or snooping around, unlike the National Forest land in the vicinity.

If (not sure of my memory here) this is one of the places where a cadaver dog alerted, why didn't LE dig up the trees to check?
 
  • #295
That looks like all 0f Barry's stuff. How do we know they didn't move the rest of their belongings in a moving van! Either that or they sold the house furnished.
Yeah, I'm sure Suzanne's and the girl's belongings would have been packed up in a uhaul or a moving van. I wouldn't want a bobcat and all that other junk mixed with other things, either. It looks like he just threw all of it in haphazardly. Didn't he go to Colorado before Suzanne? For some reason I thought one of them went first and the other stayed behind. Maybe the girls had to finish school?
 
  • #296
I might be alone in this opinion, but I don't think the messy trailer is a big deal (other than safety-wise, making sure things weren't loose enough to bounce out along the way).

It's clear this trailer is not their entire move -- presumably there would have been a large moving truck with all their furniture, kitchen items, clothing, tools, wall art, girls' belongings, etc.

Not to mention their multiple vehicles. I wonder if they made more than one trip to move everything. Or had to hire out the hauling of extra vehicles since they could each only drive one at a time.

It looks to me like the "extra" space in and around the Bobcat was filled with "guy stuff", maybe from BM's "man cave" or workshop or even a landscaping office if there was one.

Especially if their quantity of regular household stuff was enough that including this extra stuff would have bumped them up to needing a larger size moving truck, I can understand wanting to take advantage of the space already available on the Bobcat trailer.

I would like to see what was carried in the bed of the truck on that trip -- maybe landscaping hand tools? He certainly would have had chainsaw, wheelbarrow(s) etc. Lots more than just the trusty Bobcat...

The awkward inclusion of the gun safe makes me think that the items on the trailer were things BM didn't want the movers touching/seeing...

MOO JMO
bbm
Agreed, and your opinion is welcome. :)

Much of a crime forum is speculation and theories.
While we're waiting for the AA release.

Esp. the bolded : Some of the 'boxes' look like Rubbermaid or Sterilite containers that have been taped shut.
Documents from his former landscaping business ?
Other papers he didn't want the movers to accidentally 'see' , if they spilled out ?
The trial will be illuminating.
I think Barry kept secrets.

If this wasn't a crime case-- no one would even think twice about how Barry hauled his junk around.
Antlers included.
MOO.
 
  • #297
I don't think he drove this to CO. IMO

Where do you think he was going with it? I had heard rumblings about the Wyoming antlerfest thing but that’s even father. Do you think the photo is just Barry packing up that barn they owned before things got reshuffled for the move?
 
  • #298
Going back to bleach, tools, coolers, dismemberment, antlers with flesh, hot tubs, and hotels, I had an idea that we may not have discussed before. Maybe BM killed SM in the house and dragged her outside somewhere to dismember her and placed her in the missing coolers. He then dumps the tools he used in the hot tub with copious amounts of bleach/ chlorine and runs it for a while to clean them. He empties the hot tub scrubs it down and refills it. He brings the bleached tools to the hotel in Broomfield and leaves them on a hotel cart. He may have brought some additional bleach to the hotel. He reexamines the tools to make sure there is no human residue left and wipes them down again with bleach. He then takes a shower and leaves the wet towels on the floor.
The antlers are brought up to the house to either lure in bobcats to shore up his mountain lion theory or to try and mask cadaverine in that location.
It has always bothered me that MG said she still had the tools from the hotel room at her home. I wonder why they weren’t seized by LE?
MOO
Great post @OldCop. Definitely food for thought. My brainstorming seems to be in hyper mode determined to find Suzanne. Big Barry needs to give everyone a break and confess, come clean & tell what he did with Suzanne! I don’t know if the guy is has the “mental moxie” to make it from now and thru a trial. I hope he’s being watched closely. We don’t need a Fotis Dulos follow up.
 
  • #299
I wonder how Barry enjoyed his first weekend in jail? :) He’s probably used to roughing it it outdoors on the ground so maybe the thin mattress in jails aren't too hard for him :rolleyes: I’m curious if the girls are doing video visits from home (fee) or video at the jail (free) only video visits are allowed. BM must be busy reading the arrest affidavit they have on him. Defense has to provide him with it. I hope that’s released on may 13.

I was wondering the same thing. Hopefully that type of quiet time has helped in his thoughts of cooperation.
 
  • #300
IMO MOO - In CM’s last 2 Live videos, and factoring in the deep dive video into BM’s background that he did, I get the sense CM is alluding to BM having “serial” tendencies.

Since his childhood days, BM is very comfortable with tracking, hunting, killing, skinning, cleaning large wildlife as a passionate life-long hobby. Wildlife often times much larger and heavier than say, a 115lb woman. Plus he picked up more value-added skillsets volunteering as a firefighter and being a degreed landscaper. Add to it what we now know and continue to learn about BM’s personality, character and harsh upbringing by his Father’s hand, and you easily have a recipe for someone who likely has been around the block a couple times, possibly building up or practicing his...craft.

We now know that BM was an addicted true crime fan. There was also mention at one point by Mike King that LE was looking into presumable activity on the black web by BM. Nothing good ever comes from that. It may have been crime related, sex related maybe. Plus there is all of BM’s very obvious odd behavior and actions in the last year. To me it easily adds up to a particular profile that CM is alluding to. I feel CM’s experience and trained eye are easily sizing up BM’s true nature and behavioral pattern. In the majority of instances, the signs are there since childhood and CM is making us aware of his assessment little by little with information nuggets.

I further believe this with Chris releasing the hillbilly packed-up moving photo to show that BM was eager to get out of dodge...running from something, possibly a situation that was starting to catch up to him, out of his control or starting to shine too much light in his direction. He hastily was leaving behind his and his wife’s childhood home and family without the complete consent of his wife and to the confusion of his community, extended family & friends.

It’s also very telling that in the last year, BM has uncharacteristically refused to be on camera, have his voice recorded or appear in person at publicized events. IMO he is hiding from something or someone that is very damning to some sort of past wrong-doing BM may have committed.

I can’t wait to see what is in the AA and then the details that will be divulged at trial. It’s always fascinating to peer into the deranged mind and lifestyle of the egotistical criminal.
Sounds like someone with a whole lot to hide!
 
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