Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #57 *ARREST*

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  • #201
I agree with Mike King of Profiling Evil’s speculation that Suzanne’s life ended on Saturday, May 9th. I have always leaned to the “event” happening on Saturday sometime after Barry left the worksite- “have to go home to make the wife happy and do some hiking or biking.”
That statement has always seemed so off
to me. According to MG, they were supposed to be working all day Saturday and then Barry suddenly has to cut the day short and go home?? I think Suzanne might have been angry with him and summonsed him home that morning, as always felt that that statement also seems to ooooze with resentment.
One of the biggest reasons I think Saturday is because I don’t think that Barry could pull off impersonating Suzanne and conversing with her BFF about upcoming wedding details. Suzanne and her BFF were very close and reportedly BFF said the text ended abruptly, not that it didn’t sound like Suzanne.
And his last minute thrown together “alibi” and MG’s comments about him calling her very early Sunday morning sounding like he’d just had the worst night of his life, IMO also points to Saturday being Suzanne’s last day on earth. Sorry I don’t have the link to Mike’s video handy, but it was posted in previous thread by our wonderful @swedeheart.

Looking forward to seeing how much of our speculations were right and where we were wrong. Come on AA. Can’t wait, can’t sleep lol.

IMHOO

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I had been on the fence on Friday vs Saturday for a long time, @fcavanaugh, for some of the same reasons you cited above. In the last couple of months I fell onto the Friday night side. Like you, I like to read everyone’s ideas. It will be interesting to see where we were way off and where we came close. We also have to remember that we are at a big disadvantage here in that we are trying to put the puzzle together with a whole lot of pieces missing. We can defend ourselves later by saying, “Well if I knew that, I certainly wouldn’t have thought this.”
Anyhow, here is my theory: (It is MOO!)
I think SM may have had a normal texting conversation with her BFF in IN on Friday night and that conversation ended as it normally would. I think BM and SM did have a big fight Friday night after she stopped texting with her friend. It may have been because he found out she had been confiding in her sister or friends. Or she may have said she wanted out of the marriage. I think BM was seething. The more he thought about it, the madder he got. He went and got one of his guns or his crossbow and shot her, or perhaps SM went out to the hot tub to let him cool off and he came up behind her and strangled her. Either of these scenarios would give LE enough for the premeditation charge - he had to consciously go and get the weapon or sneak up behind her. It should be noted that a strangulation death may be considered to be premeditated at any time because you have to consciously keep applying the pressure when you know that by doing so the person will die. But I digress.
BM goes into panic mode when he realizes what he has done. He decides to go to the Salida job site and bury either SM or some evidence there. MG said he worked at the “beach area” at the job site Friday night. Why else would he be working there Friday night? I do not know when he asked MG to work on Saturday morning to “rake out and flatten” the beach area.
He was not himself Saturday morning according to MG. He was anxious and stressed. I think he was a basket case at this point trying to figure out what to do. He cut the workday short and told MG he had to go home to make his wife happy and take her hiking or biking. I think this is where there are 2 plausible explanations for whether SM died Friday night or Saturday. I just gave my reasoning for a Friday night death. If she was killed on Saturday, I believe it was when he went home at about 11:00/11:30 and the argument continued.
My theory is he told MG about going home to make SM happy to imply that she was very much alive and well. I think he mentioned the hiking or biking because in his mind he was trying to make up a scenario and develop an alibi.
There was an unconfirmed report that BM was seen in town having lunch with SM on Saturday afternoon. This does not seem likely as nothing was open for dining in because of COVID-19. JP did not mention that SM was with BM when they met in Salida on Saturday afternoon and BM asked if he’d be interested in working on the Broomfield job. MG said that friends told her he was shopping all around Salida Saturday afternoon by himself.
I think that BM was shopping by himself. He picked up supplies to clean up evidence and to dispose of his wife. I believe she was at Puma Path dead in the garage, possibly in a cooler. Puma Path is not the type of location where people would be dropping in all the time, but I’m sure this lead to his nerves being frazzled while he was at the job.
I do think he tried to impersonate SM by texting with her BFF probably in reply to a text. Whatever he wrote might have seemed “off” to her friend. If she questioned him, that may have been when the texts stopped.
He spent Saturday evening and the wee hours of Sunday morning disposing of the body and cleaning up. When he felt everything was in place, he texted MG and asked her to pull a crew together for the Broomfield job and he told her to include JP. She said he sounded like he had just had the worst night of his life. I bet he did.
He told MG he would head up early and do some prep work thus establishing his alibi. His daughters inadvertently fouled everything up by coming home later than expected. They should have found SM missing and sounded the alarm. Instead BM had to get involved, had to start the bike narrative, and had to get the neighbor involved none of which he wanted. Still, I think he thought he was invincible, that the alibi was rock solid, and that no one would doubt him. Except they did.
MOO
 
  • #202
I'm interested in this. Do you remember whether this was discussed recently, or back when both Mike and Chris were on the show? Do you remember whether they had other guests with whom they were discussing this? (Just trying to locate that info...)

It was last year, so both were on the show. It was a 'special' episode for want of a better word, it was in text on the screen and gave a timeline iirc - I want to say cougar canyon? There was lots of blue dots indicating cell data?
I'll go through the media thread and see if I can find it
 
  • #203
I wonder for how long did BM feel LE inching closer and closer, catching up to him? I saw a brief video recorded by good citizen of the arrest, with BM's white truck parked on the shoulder and a sh@t-load of LE vehicles scattered-parked behind it. BM was already in cuffs and in one of those LE vehicles. It was satisfying to observe that entire scene.


Re BM's mug shot: man, oh man, has he *aged*.
 
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  • #204
BM's comment to a coworker:
“...have to go home to make the wife happy and do some hiking or biking.”

Of course.

Hiking... to hide SM's remains.
Biking... to stage SM's bicycle.
 
  • #205
I'm interested in this. Do you remember whether this was discussed recently, or back when both Mike and Chris were on the show? Do you remember whether they had other guests with whom they were discussing this? (Just trying to locate that info...)

Skip to 22:40 to watch the info regarding BM's truck EVI data.
 
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I had been on the fence on Friday vs Saturday for a long time, @fcavanaugh, for some of the same reasons you cited above. In the last couple of months I fell onto the Friday night side. Like you, I like to read everyone’s ideas. It will be interesting to see where we were way off and where we came close. We also have to remember that we are at a big disadvantage here in that we are trying to put the puzzle together with a whole lot of pieces missing. We can defend ourselves later by saying, “Well if I knew that, I certainly wouldn’t have thought this.”
Anyhow, here is my theory: (It is MOO!)
I think SM may have had a normal texting conversation with her BFF in IN on Friday night and that conversation ended as it normally would. I think BM and SM did have a big fight Friday night after she stopped texting with her friend. It may have been because he found out she had been confiding in her sister or friends. Or she may have said she wanted out of the marriage. I think BM was seething. The more he thought about it, the madder he got. He went and got one of his guns or his crossbow and shot her, or perhaps SM went out to the hot tub to let him cool off and he came up behind her and strangled her. Either of these scenarios would give LE enough for the premeditation charge - he had to consciously go and get the weapon or sneak up behind her. It should be noted that a strangulation death may be considered to be premeditated at any time because you have to consciously keep applying the pressure when you know that by doing so the person will die. But I digress.
BM goes into panic mode when he realizes what he has done. He decides to go to the Salida job site and bury either SM or some evidence there. MG said he worked at the “beach area” at the job site Friday night. Why else would he be working there Friday night? I do not know when he asked MG to work on Saturday morning to “rake out and flatten” the beach area.
He was not himself Saturday morning according to MG. He was anxious and stressed. I think he was a basket case at this point trying to figure out what to do. He cut the workday short and told MG he had to go home to make his wife happy and take her hiking or biking. I think this is where there are 2 plausible explanations for whether SM died Friday night or Saturday. I just gave my reasoning for a Friday night death. If she was killed on Saturday, I believe it was when he went home at about 11:00/11:30 and the argument continued.
My theory is he told MG about going home to make SM happy to imply that she was very much alive and well. I think he mentioned the hiking or biking because in his mind he was trying to make up a scenario and develop an alibi.
There was an unconfirmed report that BM was seen in town having lunch with SM on Saturday afternoon. This does not seem likely as nothing was open for dining in because of COVID-19. JP did not mention that SM was with BM when they met in Salida on Saturday afternoon and BM asked if he’d be interested in working on the Broomfield job. MG said that friends told her he was shopping all around Salida Saturday afternoon by himself.
I think that BM was shopping by himself. He picked up supplies to clean up evidence and to dispose of his wife. I believe she was at Puma Path dead in the garage, possibly in a cooler. Puma Path is not the type of location where people would be dropping in all the time, but I’m sure this lead to his nerves being frazzled while he was at the job.
I do think he tried to impersonate SM by texting with her BFF probably in reply to a text. Whatever he wrote might have seemed “off” to her friend. If she questioned him, that may have been when the texts stopped.
He spent Saturday evening and the wee hours of Sunday morning disposing of the body and cleaning up. When he felt everything was in place, he texted MG and asked her to pull a crew together for the Broomfield job and he told her to include JP. She said he sounded like he had just had the worst night of his life. I bet he did.
He told MG he would head up early and do some prep work thus establishing his alibi. His daughters inadvertently fouled everything up by coming home later than expected. They should have found SM missing and sounded the alarm. Instead BM had to get involved, had to start the bike narrative, and had to get the neighbor involved none of which he wanted. Still, I think he thought he was invincible, that the alibi was rock solid, and that no one would doubt him. Except they did.
MOO

We are 100% on the same page. Thank you for spelling it out!
 
  • #207
I have mixed feelings about this. I think the best thing for the daughters and others close to BM right now is that they be sheltered from social media and other places where speculation is occurring. Others close to them can judge and help them navigate around postings that may be painful to read/see.

However, when the defense is demanding that the prosecution produce ALL evidence it has gathered/produced in this case within 3 weeks (May 27, I think the motion said), then the timeframe is very tight and shutting up discussion serves only one side. This is a site about websleuthing and crowdsourcing ideas that utilizes the intelligence, experience, and judgment of the many members. On some occasions, it may be that something is discussed here that generates a tip that is useful.

For these reasons, I think that thoughtful speculation, even when it involves gruesome possibilities, should be okay. It makes no sense for sleuthers and those who consider and respond to their ideas to walk on eggshells when the timeframe is so tight.
Agree 100%. Nice, to the point post. Well said.
 
  • #208
I'm trying not to follow this too much, just rely on my WS friends for updates. I am so sick of these coward men who overpower their smaller partners and children to murder them without bothering to let have them a chance to fight back. (IMO) We have Frazee with his blindfold, encouraging a tender moment of shared aromas before the savage baseball bat blows, Watts murdering SW while she slept, IMO no other way to explain the lack of defense wounds and murdering little girls who weighed 140 pounds less than he. I fully expect BW to have snuck up on Suzanne, to murder her without her expecting it.

I don't care what happens to these men, nothing is enough, I would have voted for the death penalty had it been an option as a juror. Why don't these images go away? Big, fit musclemen murdering their wives and little girls. I can hardly watch family photos of the Watts anymore, it just gets harder to know of these sweet little girls murdered while clutching their blankies, or worse, if he indeed killed them twice as he confesses in "The Murders of Christopher Watts".

I realize BM hasn't been convicted yet, but I still have "IMO".
 
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  • #209
I'm interested in this. Do you remember whether this was discussed recently, or back when both Mike and Chris were on the show? Do you remember whether they had other guests with whom they were discussing this? (Just trying to locate that info...)
I'm interested in this. Do you remember whether this was discussed recently, or back when both Mike and Chris were on the show? Do you remember whether they had other guests with whom they were discussing this? (Just trying to locate that info...)

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/6134d5b7fe774ef38083dc0d36b33335…

So, I'd confused myself, there is info on here about some of the masts from Maysville to Denver with 2 possible routes. What I was misremembering was the dark blue dots, there's 3 that indicate PP home, the bike and the personal item all related to Suzanne and BM, but there's another one in Cougar Canyon with no description that I can see, how does this relate to Suzanne abd why would BM be there? If it is indeed BM.

imo
 
  • #210

Skip to 22:40 to watch the info regarding BM's truck EVI data.
Thank you for providing this, and so quickly. This PE episode mentioned the conflicting information between truck GPS data and what BM told investigators (according to Andy). But, the poster had suggested there was a cellphone ping that put BM somewhere OTHER than where he was supposed to be.

@Lyanna, do you think the conflict you remembered was this one - about truck GPS - rather than a cellphone ping? Or, was there something else? (ETA: Sorry, I see you've already addressed this!)
 
  • #211
I had been on the fence on Friday vs Saturday for a long time, @fcavanaugh, for some of the same reasons you cited above. In the last couple of months I fell onto the Friday night side. Like you, I like to read everyone’s ideas. It will be interesting to see where we were way off and where we came close. We also have to remember that we are at a big disadvantage here in that we are trying to put the puzzle together with a whole lot of pieces missing. We can defend ourselves later by saying, “Well if I knew that, I certainly wouldn’t have thought this.”
Anyhow, here is my theory: (It is MOO!)
I think SM may have had a normal texting conversation with her BFF in IN on Friday night and that conversation ended as it normally would. I think BM and SM did have a big fight Friday night after she stopped texting with her friend. It may have been because he found out she had been confiding in her sister or friends. Or she may have said she wanted out of the marriage. I think BM was seething. The more he thought about it, the madder he got. He went and got one of his guns or his crossbow and shot her, or perhaps SM went out to the hot tub to let him cool off and he came up behind her and strangled her. Either of these scenarios would give LE enough for the premeditation charge - he had to consciously go and get the weapon or sneak up behind her. It should be noted that a strangulation death may be considered to be premeditated at any time because you have to consciously keep applying the pressure when you know that by doing so the person will die. But I digress.
BM goes into panic mode when he realizes what he has done. He decides to go to the Salida job site and bury either SM or some evidence there. MG said he worked at the “beach area” at the job site Friday night. Why else would he be working there Friday night? I do not know when he asked MG to work on Saturday morning to “rake out and flatten” the beach area.
He was not himself Saturday morning according to MG. He was anxious and stressed. I think he was a basket case at this point trying to figure out what to do. He cut the workday short and told MG he had to go home to make his wife happy and take her hiking or biking. I think this is where there are 2 plausible explanations for whether SM died Friday night or Saturday. I just gave my reasoning for a Friday night death. If she was killed on Saturday, I believe it was when he went home at about 11:00/11:30 and the argument continued.
My theory is he told MG about going home to make SM happy to imply that she was very much alive and well. I think he mentioned the hiking or biking because in his mind he was trying to make up a scenario and develop an alibi.
There was an unconfirmed report that BM was seen in town having lunch with SM on Saturday afternoon. This does not seem likely as nothing was open for dining in because of COVID-19. JP did not mention that SM was with BM when they met in Salida on Saturday afternoon and BM asked if he’d be interested in working on the Broomfield job. MG said that friends told her he was shopping all around Salida Saturday afternoon by himself.
I think that BM was shopping by himself. He picked up supplies to clean up evidence and to dispose of his wife. I believe she was at Puma Path dead in the garage, possibly in a cooler. Puma Path is not the type of location where people would be dropping in all the time, but I’m sure this lead to his nerves being frazzled while he was at the job.
I do think he tried to impersonate SM by texting with her BFF probably in reply to a text. Whatever he wrote might have seemed “off” to her friend. If she questioned him, that may have been when the texts stopped.
He spent Saturday evening and the wee hours of Sunday morning disposing of the body and cleaning up. When he felt everything was in place, he texted MG and asked her to pull a crew together for the Broomfield job and he told her to include JP. She said he sounded like he had just had the worst night of his life. I bet he did.
He told MG he would head up early and do some prep work thus establishing his alibi. His daughters inadvertently fouled everything up by coming home later than expected. They should have found SM missing and sounded the alarm. Instead BM had to get involved, had to start the bike narrative, and had to get the neighbor involved none of which he wanted. Still, I think he thought he was invincible, that the alibi was rock solid, and that no one would doubt him. Except they did.
MOO

Well done as always @OldCop! One question: when do you think Barry planted the bike? I’m so curious about this, because if he thought the girls were coming home early in the day, Suzanne may have out been on an early ride. But what if he didn’t find out they would be coming home late until he was already on his way to Broomfield? I feel like the staged bike ride was planned pretty well. Open to your thoughts..
 
  • #212
While watching PE's MK yesterday I noticed something he displayed that I haven't found on the CO judicial page under his case? It was dated 5/11/2021. It begins at 12:41, then again at 16:28. Why wouldn't this be listed under his case?
 
  • #213
This text message on Friday morning. Haunting.

“The Friday before Mother’s Day, my sister had sent me a text message that morning. It was very lengthy. It was very powerful. It was very revealing,” Moorman told the program. “She had been ready to share some things close to her chest. She said she was scared.”
Missing mom Suzanne Morphew's family puzzles over her fate
JMO.
 
  • #214
This text message on Friday morning. Haunting.

“The Friday before Mother’s Day, my sister had sent me a text message that morning. It was very lengthy. It was very powerful. It was very revealing,” Moorman told the program. “She had been ready to share some things close to her chest. She said she was scared.”
Missing mom Suzanne Morphew's family puzzles over her fate
JMO.

I keep thinking that whatever was in that message is pretty much all LE needed to connect the rest of the dots.
 
  • #215
https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/6134d5b7fe774ef38083dc0d36b33335…

So, I'd confused myself, there is info on here about some of the masts from Maysville to Denver with 2 possible routes. What I was misremembering was the dark blue dots, there's 3 that indicate PP home, the bike and the personal item all related to Suzanne and BM, but there's another one in Cougar Canyon with no description that I can see, how does this relate to Suzanne abd why would BM be there? If it is indeed BM.

imo
I remember the profiling evil maps and spotting Cougar Canyon just off highway 24 near Florissant. A couple newer developments on large forested acreage, caught my attention at the time in September.
Definitely an alternative route to Denver, the next town on the way downhill to Colorado Springs is Woodland Park, sadly Kelsey Berreths last home
 
  • #216
While watching PE's MK yesterday I noticed something he displayed that I haven't found on the CO judicial page under his case? It was dated 5/11/2021. It begins at 12:41, then again at 16:28. Why wouldn't this be listed under his case?
I think it's just a timing issue. Hasn't been uploaded electronically to the court site yet. JMO.
 
  • #217
I had been on the fence on Friday vs Saturday for a long time, @fcavanaugh, for some of the same reasons you cited above. In the last couple of months I fell onto the Friday night side. Like you, I like to read everyone’s ideas. It will be interesting to see where we were way off and where we came close. We also have to remember that we are at a big disadvantage here in that we are trying to put the puzzle together with a whole lot of pieces missing. We can defend ourselves later by saying, “Well if I knew that, I certainly wouldn’t have thought this.”
Anyhow, here is my theory: (It is MOO!)
I think SM may have had a normal texting conversation with her BFF in IN on Friday night and that conversation ended as it normally would. I think BM and SM did have a big fight Friday night after she stopped texting with her friend. It may have been because he found out she had been confiding in her sister or friends. Or she may have said she wanted out of the marriage. I think BM was seething. The more he thought about it, the madder he got. He went and got one of his guns or his crossbow and shot her, or perhaps SM went out to the hot tub to let him cool off and he came up behind her and strangled her. Either of these scenarios would give LE enough for the premeditation charge - he had to consciously go and get the weapon or sneak up behind her. It should be noted that a strangulation death may be considered to be premeditated at any time because you have to consciously keep applying the pressure when you know that by doing so the person will die. But I digress.
BM goes into panic mode when he realizes what he has done. He decides to go to the Salida job site and bury either SM or some evidence there. MG said he worked at the “beach area” at the job site Friday night. Why else would he be working there Friday night? I do not know when he asked MG to work on Saturday morning to “rake out and flatten” the beach area.
He was not himself Saturday morning according to MG. He was anxious and stressed. I think he was a basket case at this point trying to figure out what to do. He cut the workday short and told MG he had to go home to make his wife happy and take her hiking or biking. I think this is where there are 2 plausible explanations for whether SM died Friday night or Saturday. I just gave my reasoning for a Friday night death. If she was killed on Saturday, I believe it was when he went home at about 11:00/11:30 and the argument continued.
My theory is he told MG about going home to make SM happy to imply that she was very much alive and well. I think he mentioned the hiking or biking because in his mind he was trying to make up a scenario and develop an alibi.
There was an unconfirmed report that BM was seen in town having lunch with SM on Saturday afternoon. This does not seem likely as nothing was open for dining in because of COVID-19. JP did not mention that SM was with BM when they met in Salida on Saturday afternoon and BM asked if he’d be interested in working on the Broomfield job. MG said that friends told her he was shopping all around Salida Saturday afternoon by himself.
I think that BM was shopping by himself. He picked up supplies to clean up evidence and to dispose of his wife. I believe she was at Puma Path dead in the garage, possibly in a cooler. Puma Path is not the type of location where people would be dropping in all the time, but I’m sure this lead to his nerves being frazzled while he was at the job.
I do think he tried to impersonate SM by texting with her BFF probably in reply to a text. Whatever he wrote might have seemed “off” to her friend. If she questioned him, that may have been when the texts stopped.
He spent Saturday evening and the wee hours of Sunday morning disposing of the body and cleaning up. When he felt everything was in place, he texted MG and asked her to pull a crew together for the Broomfield job and he told her to include JP. She said he sounded like he had just had the worst night of his life. I bet he did.
He told MG he would head up early and do some prep work thus establishing his alibi. His daughters inadvertently fouled everything up by coming home later than expected. They should have found SM missing and sounded the alarm. Instead BM had to get involved, had to start the bike narrative, and had to get the neighbor involved none of which he wanted. Still, I think he thought he was invincible, that the alibi was rock solid, and that no one would doubt him. Except they did.
MOO
Always excellent posts @OldCop. You really add valid points to the discussion. Every statement seems very plausible. I’ve wondered what in the world Barry would be doing at the job site Friday night, working only a half day Saturday. I also agree the reason to mention SM to Morgan was to make her seem very much alive. Wonder if Saturday was the day Barry bought the “large amount” of chlorine Chris McDonough referenced. CM said he had verified the purchase with the store in Salida. And we wait....
MOO
 
  • #218
I keep thinking that whatever was in that message is pretty much all LE needed to connect the rest of the dots.
Yes, totally agree.
JMO.
 
  • #219
While watching PE's MK yesterday I noticed something he displayed that I haven't found on the CO judicial page under his case? It was dated 5/11/2021. It begins at 12:41, then again at 16:28. Why wouldn't this be listed under his case?
I caught that, too and took a couple of screenshots but didn’t post anywhere. My guess is that MK is accessing one of the sites where you have to pay. @Seattle1 explains the sites on post #198.

That does NOT explain why it’s not showing up by now on the CoCourts free site. I’m very curious also!
 
  • #220
Are objections filed up until the end of court business hours or anytime before midnight mountain time electronically? judge gave until May 13th in the order.

it’s almost 4:30 in Colorado.
 
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