Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #58 *ARREST*

[Boxer]

MOO BM may have walked in while she was on the phone with them, overheard something and then he went into a rage filled rampage.

ETA: maybe she reached out to the crisis line.

Maybe, but the arrest is for mutder " with deliberation."

 

[FromGermany1]

If this is how it played out, could they still charge him with premeditated murder? That sounds like a rage killing to me. Or do you think maybe he discovered something that weekend, but didn't act on it right away, but started planning?

I believe, the premeditation started no later than when the girls went on a "camping trip" in the middle of Corona, so a few days before Wednesday at least. School holidays were not at that time, if I am right. Did the extraordinary vacation have to be applied for from the HS of the minor daughter? What might the alleged reason for the application have been?
I can imagine, BM wanted to clear some severe problems (financial probably? much worse??) with Suzanne and planned to get his will, whatever it costs and be it the life of his wife. The girls had to be away at a safe place, not able to return untimely. Maybe, they were at a relative's home in MI; I think, I saw some connections with MI (business?) time ago. But it's not important at all, where they stayed. I'm though curious to know, if they were sent away more often, when the marriage went down since they all had been in Colorado (like SM's sister now discovered). Did DV happen? Did DV happen only, when the girls were far away and not able to see the physical characteristics on their mum? BM could have shown himself before and after as the nice husband and dad, who couldn't hurt a fly. He even could have told the girls, how he suffered once and again because of their "crazy" mother.

It is so very sad to think, that the marriage got into a downward spiral at the same time, when poor Suzanne became ill. Or the other way around: that Suzanne became ill with cancer, because her marriage was going down. Who knows, what came first.

 

[FromGermany1]

Did anyone ever find more information on the TN comment regarding who was living at home or Suzanne's living arrangement when she went missing?

I found that comment to be quite perplexing.

"Noel declined to comment if Suzanne had children or who she lived with. No further details were provided."
Family offers $200k reward for missing woman’s ‘safe return, no questions asked’ | FOX21 News Colorado

Doesn't make any sense, if BM told, he left his spouse, sleeping at 5h on Sunday morning, for his very busy work trip, allegedly. Afaik, SM had him explicitly "allowed" to go working. For BM it should show the harmony, which was no longer there. A stupid idea by the initially nameless HUSBAND. And bad coordinated with the PR-nephew. IMO

 

[EggSalad]

"Working with domestic abuse meetings"

What do you suppose that means? She was attending meetings of some sort? She had contacted a hotline for help? She was helping to organize a domestic abuse shelter or safe haven?

It seems like the most likely answer is that she was attending the meetings as a spouse that was involved in domestic violence and this was a support group.

People in recovery attending AA or NA programs, are usually referred to as ‘Working a program’ or ‘working their recovery’.

 

[Bluebythec]

It seems like the most likely answer is that she was attending the meetings as a spouse that was involved in domestic violence and this was a support group.

People in recovery attending AA or NA programs, are usually referred to as ‘Working a program’ or ‘working their recovery’.

Hmmm. Maybe she had told Barry she was attending a cancer support group and he found out it was really a DV group?

 

[vaporlass]

I'm still saying Hmm? As for being 70, I'm older than that and that's not elderly to me. I just want to make sure they made the right decision about Barry because look at the women we see in the news being abducted while jogging so why couldn't someone be abducted while bike riding, in a remote area no less near numerous campsites. and a suspicious car in the area to boot. These are my thoughts right now. I know it's controversial but I like to cross every t and dot every i

If it was just one thing that made me think BM was responsible, I might feel the same way but it’s a combination of actions, behaviors, and words. I have not based my opinion of BM on one thing he did that was suspicious - it’s based on an accumulation of things that have happened since Day 1 of me following this case. I researched extensively in the beginning and kept trying to give him the benefit of a doubt but I had none. I was able to let the case go when things got quiet because I knew he was guilty and I just had to wait for the arrest or the body to be found. Now I’m just waiting for the AA ...
There are plenty of pages in this thread you can read that should adequately cross every T and dot every I that you have, WS has so many experienced people offering their expertise - but it is also filled with very skeptical and compassionate people - most do not judge without careful consideration - but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do your own research and trust your own instincts.

 

[Ontario Mom]

It seems like the most likely answer is that she was attending the meetings as a spouse that was involved in domestic violence and this was a support group.

I'm not so sure that's the most likely answer. I think it's possible she was volunteering through her church (similar to the way she volunteered at her church for providing lunches for the students at Young-Life mentioned here “You don’t just see beauty when Suzanne is around, you feel it”: Friends describe missing Chaffee County woman | FOX21 News Colorado ) or through a local DV resource to be of some sort of assistance for DV victims. Based on every wonderful, kind, tender and genuine testimony we've heard from literally everyone that knew her, this does sound like something she'd be doing.

I mean "working with domestic abuse meetings" doesn't actually say she's attending meetings herself, for herself. AM said he learned, after she disappeared, that she'd been working with domestic abuse meetings Suzanne Morphew’s brother believes she was a victim of domestic abuse, says Barry Morphew threatened volunteer searchers with a gun on his shoulders, and the wording of that is rather odd. If she was attending meetings herself, why not just say it that way? He did say he believes she was a victim of domestic abuse (and I think she was too, to be fair) but stopped short of saying he learned she was attending meetings for herself. I suspect it's because that's not what he was told by whoever it was that he learned this from.

jmo

 

[SouthAussie]

It seems like the most likely answer is that she was attending the meetings as a spouse that was involved in domestic violence and this was a support group.

People in recovery attending AA or NA programs, are usually referred to as ‘Working a program’ or ‘working their recovery’.

And DV survivors and victims are said to be participating in group work.

".... offer survivors of domestic violence and abuse groupwork support to rehabilitate alongside other survivors."
Groupwork Programme | The Pankhurst Trust and Manchester Women's Aid

".... in group-work with survivors of domestic violence."
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/03124079208550175

Suzanne wouldn't be working with them (in any capacity) if she didn't have experience with DV. imo
Unless her role was simply making tea and coffee.

 

[Error505]

He doesn’t look cuffed there. I wonder if they read him his Miranda rights there or waited until they got to the station.

There’s no media report on the “details” of the arrest, so everything would be pure speculation. A passing motorist was the one who captured the video of the roadside arrest on a cellphone. I don’t know any other details.

 

[Error505]

I'm still saying Hmm? As for being 70, I'm older than that and that's not elderly to me. I just want to make sure they made the right decision about Barry because look at the women we see in the news being abducted while jogging so why couldn't someone be abducted while bike riding, in a remote area no less near numerous campsites. and a suspicious car in the area to boot. These are my thoughts right now. I know it's controversial but I like to cross every t and dot every i

BBM I think the AA will cross every t and dot every i for you. The DA was very confident about the arrest and charges. MOO
Full news conference: Missing Colorado mother Suzanne Morphew's husband arrested for murder | 9news.com

 

[MsBetsy]

Maybe, but the arrest is for mutder " with deliberation."

I think he still could have acted out of extreme anger or rage. Premeditation or deliberation can take a few seconds. As long as he had time to think about what he was doing, and continued to follow through, it can still fall under murder in the 1st degree. Imo

 

[Error505]

Looked back at my 2nd post on Suzanne’s case when I started following it. His “Oh, Suzanne” video was so telling. He was emotionally disconnected from his words he was saying.

“I wonder if BM felt a slight disappointment Suzanne was declared cancer free...? He may have decided he needed to go to Plan B, an unexplained, mysterious disappearance of his beloved wife. Sorry, I don’t mean to sound flippant, but this wasn’t a spur of the moment happening, MOO! Not saying I’m suspicious of BM at all (eye roll).” MOO
CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #19

 

[Error505]

I think he still could have acted out of extreme anger or rage. Premeditation or deliberation can take a few seconds. As long as he had time to think about what he was doing, and continued to follow through, it can still fall under murder in the 1st degree. Imo

I have a slightly different opinion regarding the premeditation. I feel LE’s evidence for premeditation is significant and is 100% supportive of their murder charge. It’ll be interesting to see what the wording was of Suzanne’s messages to BFF and her sister. I think BM left the marriage “emotionally” when SM was diagnosed w/cancer the 2nd time. He was ready to move on. I think there will be lady-friends come forward to testify about BMs extracurricular activities. All MOO

 

[DizzyB]

Re: running late/camping trip. We have always wondered about this and maybe it might not be exactly the way it was explained. I wonder if Barry had any idea at all when the girls were expected home. He’s a broadbrush guy, I think. Many fathers leave the details to the Moms, sorry, it sounds stereotypical. He may have had no clue of the trip details either. Suzanne might just have always passed along what she thought he needed to know.
I really think he might have only known they would be back on Sunday. He may not have had to discuss Mother’s Day at all with Suzanne because she was already dead. So he needed to get out of Dodge before there was any chance of the girls showing up. 4 or 5 am departure ensures he is gone before they get back. He might have thought that they would get home and find Mom missing early in the day. He could have been “working”, showering, waiting for them to call and say they couldn’t find Mom. Waiting, and waiting.. It would be interesting to know if they called him first or he called them. He may have had to go to plan B and get the neighbor involved because they weren’t there to report Mom missing.

 

[susiQ]

Doesn't make any sense, if BM told, he left his spouse, sleeping at 5h on Sunday morning, for his very busy work trip, allegedly. Afaik, SM had him explicitly "allowed" to go working. For BM it should show the harmony, which was no longer there. A stupid idea by the initially nameless HUSBAND. And bad coordinated with the PR-nephew. IMO

It could “possibly” make sense if Barry spun another lie to LE, that he and Suzanne had reconciled while the girls were away?? Just a thought.

 

[Boxer]

I'm not so sure that's the most likely answer. I think it's possible she was volunteering through her church (similar to the way she volunteered at her church for providing lunches for the students at Young-Life mentioned here “You don’t just see beauty when Suzanne is around, you feel it”: Friends describe missing Chaffee County woman | FOX21 News Colorado ) or through a local DV resource to be of some sort of assistance for DV victims. Based on every wonderful, kind, tender and genuine testimony we've heard from literally everyone that knew her, this does sound like something she'd be doing.

I mean "working with domestic abuse meetings" doesn't actually say she's attending meetings herself, for herself. AM said he learned, after she disappeared, that she'd been working with domestic abuse meetings Suzanne Morphew’s brother believes she was a victim of domestic abuse, says Barry Morphew threatened volunteer searchers with a gun on his shoulders, and the wording of that is rather odd. If she was attending meetings herself, why not just say it that way? He did say he believes she was a victim of domestic abuse (and I think she was too, to be fair) but stopped short of saying he learned she was attending meetings for herself. I suspect it's because that's not what he was told by whoever it was that he learned this from.

jmo

MOO his original garbled sentence is a thing people do when they are saying unfamiliar or unpleasant things.
A switch in the middle of the sentence.

MOO he is clear in this 9/25/2020 article that he means she was in a domestic abuse situation.

‘I’m afraid this is domestic abuse’; Suzanne Morhpew’s brother says husband not participating in search, carrying shotgun to keep people off property | FOX31 Denver

 

[Boxer]

Well stated.

I do think the AA will lay out a pretty compelling timeline, with both BM and SMs phone locations and BM's vehicles' (my guess is maybe he disabled the bobcat GPS?) GPS locations that is going to expose a giant hole in his "alibi". I'd also bet a donut that BM's phone was turned off Saturday evening (and it's probably the only day his phone had been turned off for that length of time in over a year).... JMO, MOO

Agree.
Like a thief that is hiding in a shadow area they prepared in advance, the act of intentionally turning off security cams, phones and locators is very similar; preparing a hidden place from which to launch a crime, and trying to hide in that digital shadow.

 

[MsBetsy]

It seems like the most likely answer is that she was attending the meetings as a spouse that was involved in domestic violence and this was a support group.

People in recovery attending AA or NA programs, are usually referred to as ‘Working a program’ or ‘working their recovery’.

I don't think we will know for sure until the discovery is released and we see all the evidence. It depends on whether the source "heard" she was attending meetings or was told directly by Suzanne that she was attending meetings.

Emotional abuse can be subtle and hard to recognize. I can't remember if it was a friend or family member, but at one point it was said that Barry was the dominant one and/or was controlling and managed the finances. Their marriage may have seemed normal to Suzanne for a long time.

She may have recently noticed he was becoming more possessive or critical of her. Maybe she was still unsure his behavior was abusive and had started to do some research or reach out to others.

It may not have been meetings she attended physically, but maybe something more discrete such as looking for information on line or posting in a support group.

Another possibility is that she was interested in working with victims of DV as a volunteer and in the process realized that she herself was a victim.

Imo

 

[Boxer]

If this is how it played out, could they still charge him with premeditated murder? That sounds like a rage killing to me. Or do you think maybe he discovered something that weekend, but didn't act on it right away, but started planning?

Agree, sounds like a rage killing, but CM did a great show on how police investigate these cases. He said there is a progression of violence, and evolving thinking that leads from repetitive abuse to making plan.
To arrest for M1 the Sheriff must have convinced a judge and a DA that there was evidence of prepared elements.

 

[Diddian]

Is there any way of knowing whether any parties OTHER than the prosecution have responded to the defendant's motion to keep the AA sealed? Press?