Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #59 *ARREST*

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  • #641
Barry made a statement, paraphrased...that "if one person is saved through this tragedy...then Suzanne would say it was worth it"......I would love to read the exact words.....Compare that to Barry voting for SM. He is speaking for her in her absence. You know darn well that he did this routinely while they were together.

Barry actually rationalizes her demise...by suggesting that if someone,, anyone just happened to get saved as a result of some remote connection to her....then his actions are justified. He wants to remove his guilt and responsibility...and is willing to use eternal salvation of someone he doesn't even know to do so.
At 4:44 is the full quote that he gave to LS .

 
  • #642
Thomas mentioned something about Barry always having someone with him, as if he didn't want to be alone. Suzanne was likely the one person in his life he could control.
^^rsbm
Very much a characteristic of narcs -- needs constant attention and validation. Needing somebody with him constantly is BM's equivalent to others needing air to breathe. Not surprised by this at all.
 
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I apologize to all of you that saw this earlier and then it was deleted. @Tiff23fr reminded me that because it was shared privately, LS may not have wanted me to share it. I just heard back and she approved me sharing it with all of you..
"ME:
Hi Lauren- I was wondering if you knew the answer to this question? Did Barry privately hire E & N as his criminal attorneys or did the PD bring them on?

Lauren:
11:59 AM
He privately hired them... the better question is did he call them or did they call him.



ME:
1:06 PM

Exactly!

1:30 PM
May I share this fact with my Webslueth friends?

Lauren:
2:38 PM
Yes
Thanks for asking.

"
So, BM did hire them privately. The bigger question is did he call them or did they reach out to him??
... and just to complete the conversation again, this alone would resolve the question, LS being a most reliable source. Thanks to you and others for following up on my speculation. I am not an attorney but if I sound like one, it's because I have had personal experience with the CJ system as a victim.

I am still curious as to whether BM is paying for his attorneys out of the guardianship/conservatorship funds. I hope someone in LE looks into this.
 
  • #645
Maybe Barry only listened to the middle of True Crime podcasts....

Actual alibis are compelling.

Crafted alibis are... porous.

Such a shame for Barry that he labored so hard to concoct an alibi for Sunday while leaving Saturday wide open, without alibi.

He blew it with the bike.

JMO

Great post!

He was seen in town on Saturday creating his alibi for Sunday.

Was Suzanne texting her friend then or had he already murdered her?

I hope the aa tells us and the world just when it happened.
 
  • #646
I find it intriguing that Mike King (Profiling Evil) and Chris McDonough (The Interview Room) have each indicated when they separately interviewed Thomas (SM's stepbrother) that they expect a defense that will get into how Barry was molded; i.e., "nature v. nurture" (Mike) and the characteristics of Barry's childhood and high-pressure-to-perform relationship with his father (Chris)

I wonder, what is the basis for that prediction and since the two of them share it, have they heard something from a common source or are they just comparing notes and they both are seeing something they've seen before?

Certain behavioral characteristics seem like those that might be seen in an adult child who was raised in a home featuring a parent who was unpredictable (due to alcoholism, serious illness that impacted his behavior, or an extremely controlling personality). For example, BM projecting his own insecurities or discomfort to control SM (when Thomas said BM popped his head into the kitchen to ask what everyone was laughing about and SM - who'd been enjoying a good belly laugh - immediately stopped and changed) as well as when John Schmitz (the mason contractor with whom BM fought at a job site in Indiana) says BM was emotionally all over the place - from fury to tears in a flash. There is also this combination of very focused drive and some intermittent impulsivity. I'm very curious whether BM has displayed more of these behaviors in front of others who are sharing notes.
In this statement from SM’s brother, DM he also asked the question “ Is it Nurture or Nature ?” Published on May 9, 2021. 4 days after the arrest. Interesting. Starting around 1:45.

He also mentioned that he suspected foul play early on based on knowing BM’s personality and that he will leave it to the FBI at trial to outline BM’s cunning personality traits.

Chilling IMO


EBM fix typos
 
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MOO
17:46 is actually 5:46pm.
That seems so late to me.
I would be all over the phone calling every neighbor, agency, and friend as well as be in a speeding car and calling everyone I could think of on the way about my mother (or any family member who did do the "missing" thing as a habit) if she was inexplicably gone.

But, this is the inmate and, well, he just didn't care.

I wonder if he regrets murdering Suzanne.

JMO
 
  • #648
Barry made a statement, paraphrased...that "if one person is saved through this tragedy...then Suzanne would say it was worth it"......I would love to read the exact words.....Compare that to Barry voting for SM. He is speaking for her in her absence. You know darn well that he did this routinely while they were together.

Barry actually rationalizes her demise...by suggesting that if someone,, anyone just happened to get saved as a result of some remote connection to her....then his actions are justified. He wants to remove his guilt and responsibility...and is willing to use eternal salvation of someone he doesn't even know to do so.
What an insight! This statement has really bothered me, but I couldn't figure out why. Then, your post and FLASH! There it was...

Thank you!
 
  • #649
:rolleyes:
In this statement from SM’s brother, DM he also asked the question “ Is it Nuture or Nature ?” Published on May 9, 2020 4 days after the arrest. Interesting. Starting around 1:45.

He also mentioned that he suspected foul play early based on knowing BM’s personality and that he will leave it to the. FBI at trial to outline BM’s cunning personality traits.

Chilling IMO

Quick correction: may 9, 2021 not 2020.

between me and you, we have the facts straight! :rolleyes:
 
  • #650
But, this is the inmate and, well, he just didn't care.

I wonder if he regrets murdering Suzanne.

JMO
Exactly. And MOO he did not anticipate how hard it was going to be to pretend to care.
 
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In this statement from SM’s brother, DM he also asked the question “ Is it Nuture or Nature ?” Published on May 9, 2020 4 days after the arrest. Interesting. Starting around 1:45.

He also mentioned that he suspected foul play early based on knowing BM’s personality and that he will leave it to the. FBI at trial to outline BM’s cunning personality traits.

Chilling IMO

Thank you for providing that link again. Heartbreaking to hear from each of Suzanne's siblings and her stepbrother, Thomas, knowing that they have patiently and quietly waited in the wings (when not on the ground actively searching, as AM did) as the investigation continued until enough evidence was gathered to warrant arrest and prosecution.

Judging from Suzanne's brother's words, it seems likely these issues are not so much coming from the defense side (i.e. as some kind of mitigating factor) as they are issues investigators became aware of early and have been considering for some time.

Good.
 
  • #652
I think it is always a mistake to assume something when you don’t have all the facts. The only two things we know with certainty are Suzanne went missing and they pulled a bike out from below the road. Was she riding it we do not know.
Is there confirmation of pulling the bike out of the drop off? I think they did but haven't seen it, would like to see any recent mention of it.
MOO that there is little info on the bike except from BM and TN, MOO means that the CCSO shut down info very early, otherwise by 11 o'clock news on 5/10 in the Salida market there would have been a PSA asking tfor information from anybody seeing a bike rider on 5/10 between Poncha Springs and Monarch Pass, with a description of bike and rider.
 
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In the interview room last night, TO described a time when both he and Suzanne were in the kitchen, and breaking up over something funny. Sounds like it was hilarious and rolicking. TO mentioned that BM stuck his head in the door, and that SM completely changed in demeanor. I don't remember the exact words, but the image was as though she froze up, losing any sense of fun. Hard to explain, but I have seen this so many times.

The "boss" of the relationship making sure that his partner is not enjoying herself on her own, without his permission.
I am sure the daughters saw many such moments as they grew up. I can only imagine what they internalized about the nature of love and marriage. I wonder if SM was able to share with them the feelings she must have had near the end, that made her decide to seek DV help. I hope so, and I pray for the daughters, that they get the right kind of support and counseling so that they never find themselves in an unhealthy and oppressive relationship.
 
  • #654
Barry's character, personality and behavior are relevant to this case, IMO.

Any chance to observe him makes the case more comprehensible and interesting to me. I think others feel the same.
I agree. But I wonder if the prosecutor will be allowed to present evidence of BM's character in their case, so the jury will be able to comprehend as well?
 
  • #655
The one that asked SM if she was safe/fearful of riding her bike?
Is this the same friend that his wife received SM auto?
 
  • #656
Barry's character, personality and behavior are relevant to this case, IMO.

Any chance to observe him makes the case more comprehensible and interesting to me. I think others feel the same.
I agree. But I wonder if the prosecutor will be allowed to present evidence of BM's character in their case, so the jury will be able to comprehend as well?
 
  • #657
In the interview room last night, TO described a time when both he and Suzanne were in the kitchen, and breaking up over something funny. Sounds like it was hilarious and rolicking. TO mentioned that BM stuck his head in the door, and that SM completely changed in demeanor. I don't remember the exact words, but the image was as though she froze up, losing any sense of fun. Hard to explain, but I have seen this so many times.

The "boss" of the relationship making sure that his partner is not enjoying herself on her own, without his permission.
Ugh. That's the definition of a "killjoy."
 
  • #658
But, this is the inmate and, well, he just didn't care.

I wonder if he regrets murdering Suzanne.

JMO
MOO
Probably not for killing her, as he had worked himself into justification for it. But he is probably sorry for making errors.
 
  • #659
I agree. But I wonder if the prosecutor will be allowed to present evidence of BM's character in their case, so the jury will be able to comprehend as well?
Hope not. I mean, he is the man he is, a sum of his actions.
MOO the main thing is that the defense not be able to suppress meanigful physical evidence.
 
  • #660
OMGEEE Y’all are on the 5’s
Have you ever seen such coincidence?
Yes. Anytime I look for them. Number coincidences seem to multiply as you look for them.
 
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