Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #60 *ARREST*

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  • #901
IMO, I think the only person that was not "repaid" was SM, and her wanting to be reimbursed her inheritance monies was probably a motive for her death -- as would be a division of assets in a divorce.

If BM/SM had a history of not repaying GM or their friends, it doesn't follow that they'd be willing to be repeat lenders.

I expect his lender friend will support BM as a stand-up guy.

Nope -- any financial greed and motive for murder was strictly between the couple. MOO
Why would Suzanne be paid back...they traded one asset for another. I might pay my husband back if I borrowed $20 or something out of his wallet but if we both invest in an asset we co-own the asset. She may have thought it was a stretch purchase overall but I doubt it was any odd financial transaction. And they might have felt the real estate appreciation over time was of more value than the markets or an annuity or some such vehicle other than real estate.
 
  • #902
bbm
Guess it helps to have friends in high places ?
Wondering what else the judge 'expunged' for Barry ?
Imo.
Corruption is not necessarily involved. People whose cases are diverted from the criminal justice system, as I understand BM's was, are not convicted of a crime. If they are charged, the case is dismissed if they complete the terms of diversion. If there is a record of the arrest and the charge, they are then entitled by law to have the record expunged by court order. This is all JMO, but based on actual experience as a crime victim.
 
  • #903
Yes, he described Barry as becoming immediately angry when he couldn't start his part of a job when he wanted to, even though he apparently was not scheduled to work for another three days.

I guess he expected JS and his crew to just pack up all their tools and leave, and when they wouldn't, he lost his temper and the two got into a physical fight. JS said there was a look of evil in his eyes.

We have only heard one side of the story, but considering all accounts of his being controlling, it sounds like Barry. Instead of using his words to solve a problem, he used his fists.

Apparently they were both charged with assault, but BM had his record expunged. Imo
MOO, I believe we have made too much of the fisticuffs with JS. This is a single incident. If there was a charge, it would have been a minor misdemeanor. Not necessarily assault, but fighting since it was a mutual brawl. Standing alone, it is insufficient to prove BM had a propensity for violence. It is very unlikely that the judge will allow the prosecutor to introduce this evidence as part of the People's case.

I am no fan of BM, but we should all keep in mind that "profilers" are not allowed to present their opinions in court. All the pseudo-psychological analysis of BM's character by MK and CM is interesting, but it will not be involved in the trial.

I am prepared to be corrected, of course. Here is a link to the Colorado Rules of Evidence. I would love to see some opinions by our WS legal experts on these points.
 
  • #904
Oh I can believe the Broomfield retaining wall re-do job was tentatively scheduled for the 11th, it’s all the other shenanigans related to it as well that are shady as he!!.

BM claiming he had to show up a day early to prep the job for his workers, on a Sunday no less, when work wasn’t allowed and/or needed to have a special permit to work weekends yet, BM never obtained said permit. Lauren’s E.A. Outdoor Services source even said, paraphrased, “The job was not urgent. There was zero reason for him to be there Sunday, as we don’t allow work on Sunday and wouldn’t have allowed him to work there that day if we knew about it ahead of time.” The source continued, paraphrased, “Him working there Sunday made zero sense at the time and it still doesn’t make any sense now.”
The fact is, the whole going to Broomfield a day early to prep work for his workers is total BS, and nothing but a fake, manufactured alibi by BM to create distance and be out of town far, far away when SM goes “missing”.

BM tracks JP down in town on Saturday afternoon to ask him to do the job (mind you, this is a mere 2 days before the job is supposedly supposed to start), and yet neglects to mention to MG just a few hours earlier on Saturday morning when he worked with her that he needed them to show up a day early for the job, until she gets panicked call from him approx. 16 hours later, on Sunday around 4am, and suddenly it’s a rush job and tells her to get the crew together and head up to Broomfield that very day, a full day early. I know, it’s already clear that him going there Sunday to prep the site for his workers is total BS, and he did not need workers there that day either, to just sleep overnight in a hotel room.
IMO, he summoned his workers there Sunday to spread their DNA/fingerprints around the room where he likely cleaned evidence to muddy the waters, and/or for some other nefarious reasons that benefit only him. And the question remains, if this re-do wall job was legit scheduled to start on the 11th, whether his name is on any formal/official paperwork for the job or not (which I find hard to believe his name wouldn’t be on something), WHY did BM never order the materials necessary or bring and leave the right tools for his workers to be able to do the job. What kind of seasoned businessman is this disorganized, and negligent?!

If we are to believe this job was set up prior to SM going “missing”, then it follows, the materials should have been ordered ahead of time and necessary tools brought up there and ready to go for his workers. Lauren said she confirmed the materials were never ordered, yet BM led his employees to believe they were on order and expected to be delivered to the jobsite on Monday?? Someone previously opined maybe BM was planning to pick up the materials on Monday on his way to jobsite. If that were the case, then WHY didn’t he tell his employees to go pick up the materials in his absence since you know, he had to leave early for his family emergency. Morgan talked to him Monday morning, that’s when she found out from BM the BS Mountain Lion attacked SM story, so why didn’t he tell her to go pick up the materials if that was his original plan, when he spoke to her Monday morning?? What kind of businessman in the business for decades forgets an important detail such as ordering and/or picking up necessary materials or forgets to bring and leave the right tools for his workers to do a job?? If we are to believe this job was scheduled for the 11th, it follows, he knew about it before SM went “missing”, so can’t say he was so frazzled and that’s why he forgot to order what was needed for the job. At the very least, him being so unprepared for a supposed scheduled job speaks volumes to his level of professionalism, business acumen, and questionable business practices.
And I’m sorry, but if everything was on the up-and-up with that job, IMO, BM’s name should have appeared somewhere on some piece of paper or document affiliated with it.
Lauren did a ton of research and digging into that job and found nothing, zero, about BM relating to job. IMO, BM would’ve had to sign something, like an agreement or something with the subcontractor to keep on file with the City etc., verifying he was being brought/hired on to re-do the retaining wall.
IMO. the whole Broomfield fake alibi, supposed scheduled job is a complete, utter s&@!show, and really hope we get to see more details soon, come on AA, can’t be fast enough. I fear we may be waiting quite awhile to see it though, unfortunately.

All of the above IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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  • #905
Yes I’ve wondered about this too. Without knowing the exact context of the text, was it that SM indicated she felt in immediate danger, or did she reveal something to Melinda to the effect she was scared if BM found out about something she wax thinking about or planning to do, like not signing off on something he wanted her to sign off on or wanting/planning to leave him and scared if he found out what he’d do/how’d he react over her exerting her independence, and perhaps asked Melinda for advice about how she thought she should handle it to minimize risk of setting Barry off. That may be why Melinda said she had to pray on it, because maybe SM asked her what she thought she should do or how Melinda thought she should go about handling it/approaching hot tempered, easily set off BM.

IMO, if Melinda felt SM was in immediate danger, I’d think she wouldn’t have said, I need to pray on it and get back to you. That doesn’t make sense to me if a big sister thought little sister was in an immediate danger situation. IMO, if SM indicated she was in immediate danger, Melinda likely would’ve said something like get out of that house ASAP, call the police, go to a shelter, etc., etc. This is just my .02, thankful LE was able to recover the text and we’ll probably, hopefully know more about the context of the text, more details soon.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne

MM talked about SM going to Al-Anon meetings to discover herself and that SM was making progress. I would imagine that didn’t sit too well with BM if SM was finding her voice. For MM to have to think and pray about it, it doesn’t sound like an immediate danger. I would wager that the argument BM and SM had on Friday night (allegedly) had more to do with SM’s activities at those meetings and her becoming more assertive about what she wanted/needed. JMO
 
  • #906
MOO, I believe we have made too much of the fisticuffs with JS. This is a single incident. If there was a charge, it would have been a minor misdemeanor. Not necessarily assault, but fighting since it was a mutual brawl. Standing alone, it is insufficient to prove BM had a propensity for violence. It is very unlikely that the judge will allow the prosecutor to introduce this evidence as part of the People's case.

I am no fan of BM, but we should all keep in mind that "profilers" are not allowed to present their opinions in court. All the pseudo-psychological analysis of BM's character by MK and CM is interesting, but it will not be involved in the trial.

I am prepared to be corrected, of course. Here is a link to the Colorado Rules of Evidence. I would love to see some opinions by our WS legal experts on these points.
bbm
Not too certain it was 'mutual'.
It read as though the other contractor was taken by surprise and had to defend himself.
Not to mention Barry wasn't expected for two whole days yet.

Just pointing out that if BM acts like that to fellow laborers, what is he like at home ?
I do think it's pretty important as far as understanding Barry's character.
Imo.
 
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  • #907
Why would Suzanne be paid back...they traded one asset for another. I might pay my husband back if I borrowed $20 or something out of his wallet but if we both invest in an asset we co-own the asset. She may have thought it was a stretch purchase overall but I doubt it was any odd financial transaction. And they might have felt the real estate appreciation over time was of more value than the markets or an annuity or some such vehicle other than real estate.
I believe OP misunderstood my use of the term quote repaid unquote.

Inherited funds in many states are typically not considered community property or a joint, marital asset provided funds not commingled and/or certain safeguards taken.

Many, including myself, believe SM wanted to keep this money as her separate estate. However, using the inherited proceeds to purchase the jointly owned Colorado residence would void that intent-- unless deemed a loan where SM was repaid her separate funds. I don't believe things in the marriage were rosy between SM/BM when they made the PP purchase. MOO

ETA: I think SM would have preferred either the relocation delayed until the IN residence sold and/or the Colorado purchase delayed until the same. It seems to me that the only urgency behind both was BM -- and BM gets whatever BM wants.
 
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bbm
Not too certain it was 'mutual'.
It read as though the other contractor was taken by surprise and had to defend himself.
Not to mention Barry wasn't expected for two whole days yet.

Just pointing out that if BM acts like that to fellow laborers, what is he like at home ?
I do think it's pretty important as far as understanding Barry's character.
Imo.
BBM.

IIRC, both JS and BM were charged. I don't see any basis in the record disclosed so far that would support your reading that JS was defending himself. Whether BM was there early has no relevance, except to explain why JS confronted him.

JMO, but a single incident of minor fisticuffs does not help me understand BM's character as pertains to the charges he faces. Maybe I'm missing something...
 
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Why would Suzanne be paid back...they traded one asset for another. I might pay my husband back if I borrowed $20 or something out of his wallet but if we both invest in an asset we co-own the asset. She may have thought it was a stretch purchase overall but I doubt it was any odd financial transaction. And they might have felt the real estate appreciation over time was of more value than the markets or an annuity or some such vehicle other than real estate.
I believe OP misunderstood my use of the term quote repaid unquote.

Inherited funds in many states are typically not considered community property or a joint, marital asset provided funds not commingled and/or certain safeguards taken.

Many, including myself, believe SM wanted to keep this money as her separate estate. However, using the inherited proceeds to purchase the jointly owned Colorado residence would void that intent-- unless deemed a loan where SM was repaid her separate funds. I don't believe things in the marriage were rosy between SM/BM when they made the PP purchase. MOO

ETA: I think SM would have preferred either the relocation delayed until the IN residence sold and/or the Colorado purchase delayed until the same. It seems to me that the only urgency behind both was BM -- and BM gets whatever BM wants.
DBM Saved by @Seattle1 Perfect explanation!
EBM
All MOO and speculation.
 
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BBM.

IIRC, both JS and BM were charged. I don't see any basis in the record disclosed so far that would support your reading that JS was defending himself. Whether BM was there early has no relevance, except to explain why JS confronted him.

JMO, but a single incident of minor fisticuffs does not help me understand BM's character as pertains to the charges he faces. Maybe I'm missing something...
Can you share the link to the record you're referring to?

I recall reading about this and seeing JS interviewed, but the way I recall it is quite different than the way you're describing it. I seem to recall it was BM that instigated it. So I'm just wondering if you've read something different & can share the link.
TIA
 
  • #912
Anyone know if Barry was wearing his wedding ring when he was arrested? Has he worn it this last year? Just curious.
 
  • #913
Can you share the link to the record you're referring to?

I recall reading about this and seeing JS interviewed, but the way I recall it is quite different than the way you're describing it. I seem to recall it was BM that instigated it. So I'm just wondering if you've read something different & can share the link.
TIA
The information that both were charged was in a previous post by another member. I will look for that. IIRC, Per the interview, IIRC, JS's version of events was that BM showed up on the worksite early and began to berate JS's workers, and JS confronted him. If he was defending himself, IMO he would not have been charged. All MOO, and my recollection of previous posts.
 
  • #914
Can you share the link to the record you're referring to?

I recall reading about this and seeing JS interviewed, but the way I recall it is quite different than the way you're describing it. I seem to recall it was BM that instigated it. So I'm just wondering if you've read something different & can share the link.
TIA
The facts are that both JS and BM were cited so it really doesn't matter who the aggressor was.

I posted on this subject not long ago-- linking the Grey Hughes Investigates episode where JS states that for personal reasons, he did not take the diversion as BM did. (Pretrial diversion (PDP) is a program created by the Indiana legislature that allows a person who makes a mistake to avoid having a criminal conviction on his/her record).

For whatever reason and not sleuthing JS, it's possible that JS did not qualify for the diversion. It's also possible he thought the charges he faced were politically motivated and opted to fight the charge. MOO

CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #59 *ARREST*

 
  • #915
The information that both were charged was in a previous post by another member. I will look for that. IIRC, Per the interview, IIRC, JS's version of events was that BM showed up on the worksite early and began to berate JS's workers, and JS confronted him. If he was defending himself, IMO he would not have been charged. All MOO, and my recollection of previous posts.
The key here is they were both charged. This will have no bearing on the trial IMO simply because Mr. Schmitz decided to take the opportunity in social media to press his opinion. Even if the prosecutor was thinking about him as a witness it could be a slippery slope since it is all fully documented in the original court documents.
 
  • #916
IIRC Someone posted in earlier thread (I apologize profusely, racking my brain trying to remember who) BM may have been in a bind for cash and needed to get paid immediately for the job he was demanding to start early. Sub- contractors can usually draw a check as soon as work is completed. Maybe a real estate tax due. Seems that was the jest of the earlier post. I don’t think BM could handle pressure, even pressure he created for himself. Just MOO
I doubt he had a hard time with pressure. Andy said Barry was extremely driven when it came to work, almost to the point of obsession. Even as a child he had a job, he was a talented athlete, and went to a competitive college. And all the while he found time to hunt, trap and fish. He probably worked well under pressure.

I think it is control that is an issue for him. He owned his own businesses, took care of the bills and handled the finances in the marriage and was probably used to getting his way. <modsnip: Not sourced in MSM or other approved sources>

I think it was loss of control that Barry felt threatened by. Nobody likes feeling helpless and out of control, but it can be especially difficult for a controlling narcissist.

Even after Suzanne went missing, he never gave up trying to control the investigation and steer the narrative. He must be going crazy sitting in his cell. I doubt he's going to give up, though.

IMO
 
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  • #917
MOO, I believe we have made too much of the fisticuffs with JS. This is a single incident. If there was a charge, it would have been a minor misdemeanor. Not necessarily assault, but fighting since it was a mutual brawl. Standing alone, it is insufficient to prove BM had a propensity for violence. It is very unlikely that the judge will allow the prosecutor to introduce this evidence as part of the People's case.

I am no fan of BM, but we should all keep in mind that "profilers" are not allowed to present their opinions in court. All the pseudo-psychological analysis of BM's character by MK and CM is interesting, but it will not be involved in the trial.

I am prepared to be corrected, of course. Here is a link to the Colorado Rules of Evidence. I would love to see some opinions by our WS legal experts on these points.
Oh I don't think that incident will be included in the trial, either. It's just one example out of many that helps paint a picture of Barry's personality. The prosecution probably won't even need evidence that he had a propensity for violence. It sounds like there are already a few witnesses that can testify to Barry's treatment of Suzanne and the state of their marriage which is likely more relevant to the case.

I don't know what pseudo-psycho analysis you're referring to, but I don't agree with CM's theory that because Barry was a hunter or skinned a raccoon as a child means he did something similar to the body, or that the tampering charge means he mutilated and did horrible things to the body, or that the way he packed his trailer means he's disorganized, or that there was a pink bike involved, or that five trees have anything to do with where Barry hid the body. I think that's all just speculation.

IMO
 
  • #918
Oh I don't think that incident will be included in the trial, either. It's just one example out of many that helps paint a picture of Barry's personality. The prosecution probably won't even need evidence that he had a propensity for violence. It sounds like there are already a few witnesses that can testify to Barry's treatment of Suzanne and the state of their marriage which is likely more relevant to the case.

<RSBM>

If Suzanne was involved in domestic violence meetings, due to her own personal circumstances, I wonder if that can be introduced at the trial.
Perhaps if it has documented relevance? "Suzanne was scared".
 
  • #919
Anyone know if Barry was wearing his wedding ring when he was arrested? Has he worn it this last year? Just curious.
I never saw a closeup of his hands when arrested. Wished we knew, but I’m “guessing” since it’s been mentioned by CM that BM was dating, I’d be surprised if he was continuing to wear his wedding ring.
 
  • #920
If Suzanne was involved in domestic violence meetings, due to her own personal circumstances, I wonder if that can be introduced at the trial.
Perhaps if it has documented relevance? "Suzanne was scared".

"Scared" doesn't seem like evidence for the prosecution. 1) How would you prove it? 2) How would you prove it was logical?

It seems like being scared would be good reason to disappear yourself. In that case, maybe you are right, maybe it will be introduced by the defense.
 
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