Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #61 *ARREST*

[Boxer]

My initial reaction is to say "bunk!!". Why should these particular victims be treated with such kid gloves.

OTOH it magnifies, in the public's imagination......wow it must be REALLY bad.

I really don't get it though, what's so special about the "victims" in this case? Sorry, but to my mind the victim is dead. Is she being served fairly to put the damper on what should be publicly disclosed?? As to what an accused murderer did to her?

I can't post anymore about this now....if anything it causes MORE bullying because of the special way they are being treated. When I heard last week that the defense was going to use the daughters in this way I thought it was a joke, it can only raise eyebrows.

Special treatment is bias. <modsnip>
Also,
unfortunately if there are reluctant witnesses, all this time allows for mischief among witnesses aligning their testimony (possibly coordinated by the defense lawyer.)

 

[NuttMegg]

Special treatment is bias. <modsnip>
Alzo, I fortunately if there is a mic
There is a reluctant witness, time allows for mischief among witnesses about their aligning their testimony.

It's like some weird catch 22. The victims, the offspring of the accused murderer are so susceptible to harm from even learning how their mother was murdered, that the actual accused murderer is also treated tenderly. I really have to go wash the dishes or something, it just seems absolutely bizarro. ( Lest anyone think I just hunger for titillation of blood and gore, I still haven't read the LS AA.)

 

[OldCop]

I thought in his first interview with LS, JP said that BM mentioned the job to him on Saturday afternoon. When BM called MG early Sunday, he told her to get a crew together and to call JP. I thought JP did call BM Sunday morning to confirm after MG called him. MG said she was surprised that BM was asking for extra help. She said it was supposed to be just her and him and that they had postponed the job several times.
I wonder if BM thought it would look bad if his alibi consisted of just him and MG at a hotel on Sunday night.

 

[SouthAussie]

I thought in his first interview with LS, JP said that BM mentioned the job to him on Saturday afternoon. When BM called MG early Sunday, he told her to get a crew together and to call JP. I thought JP did call BM Sunday morning to confirm after MG called him. MG said she was surprised that BM was asking for extra help. She said it was supposed to be just her and him and that they had postponed the job several times.
I wonder if BM thought it would look bad if his alibi consisted of just him and MG at a hotel on Sunday night.

I don't know. I am just going by what JP said in the chat he had with the journo in the video that was put up yesterday (my time, it might have been today your time). Or what I understood from their chat. Maybe I am mistaken.


JP: Oh, I didn't go til Sunday night, I actually was... He asked Morgan to ask me if I could go down there and work. I work, I was working with Jeff, me and Robert (?), I work for DSI, I work for Jeff. And so, why would you ask me when I know I got a job? So, um, I was trying to clarify, I can't just go out on my own, I can't just go down there. So, I was trying to find... Jeff went turkey hunting, and then, um, I was trying to figure it out, what I was gonna do. So, (unintelligible)...and then (?) come through here and he said, "You got Barry's number?" So I called Barry and I says, "Barry, you need me down in Denver?" And, "Yeah." So, I said "Ok." And I was, I talked to him then, and that was it, far as talking to him. And then...
CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #61 *ARREST*

 

[Midwestmom2019]

The daughters will or will not have access to the AA? If not, not releasing it to give them a chance absorb it is circular. I’m confused.

I saw your name and flipped out. What? Barry’s on here reading all of our posts? When I became rational, I DID wonder if he could be here, reading and responding. It’s happened before on WS.

 

[10ofRods]

The feelings of the families on either side do not matter in a legal sense. The AA was signed off by a judge who hopefully read it thoroughly and found no reason to reject it as inadequate to issue an arrest warrant. Only valid LEGAL reasoning can be used to withhold an AA. I personally do not think this judge using the daughters as a shield is a valid legal reason for denying the public the right to know why an arrest warrant was issued.

But he has to operate under Colorado law, which now includes a Victims' Rights Act.

So we may see CO and a few other states diverging from what has been general practice in most states.

 

[NuttMegg]

I saw your name and flipped out. What? Barry’s on here reading all of our posts? When I became rational, I DID wonder if he could be here, reading and responding. It’s happened before on WS.

When the Watts case began, within just a couple of weeks someone had cranked out a kindle book on the case, and many of us could see our own posts rephrased a little by that author. Obviously the author had eyes glued to WS. This really happened.

 

[Deleted member 222031]

It's like some weird catch 22. The victims, the offspring of the accused murderer are so susceptible to harm from even learning how their mother was murdered, that the actual accused murderer is also treated tenderly. I really have to go wash the dishes or something, it just seems absolutely bizarro. ( Lest anyone think I just hunger for titillation of blood and gore, I still haven't read the LS AA.)

<modsnip> I just reread the order. The judge goes to pains to make the AA sound extremely prejudicial and causing great potential harm to the "victims" - whom we assume to mean not only SM but also the daughters - as well as to witnesses. He also believes the law leans to the side of the defense because of the contents of the AA being in large part not evidentiary to the crime accused (if I am interpreting correctly). As another sleuther pointed out - waiting or never releasing the AA gives the defense more advantages in terms of prepping their witnesses, etc. So the judge and defense are in agreement (rolling eyes!). I hope the Media continues to pursue release of the AA. I think the judge is erring too far on the side of the defense. BM deserves a fair trial but if the AA is that prejudicial, God help the defense when photos of the evidence against BM are played on a big screen for all the world to see.

 

[SouthAussie]

It's like some weird catch 22. The victims, the offspring of the accused murderer are so susceptible to harm from even learning how their mother was murdered, that the actual accused murderer is also treated tenderly. I really have to go wash the dishes or something, it just seems absolutely bizarro. ( Lest anyone think I just hunger for titillation of blood and gore, I still haven't read the LS AA.)

It never seems fair to the actual victim of the crime. IMO

The way the victims are frequently denigrated in court by defense attorneys who are doing and saying whatever they can to get their client off.

I guess we have to be prepared for that.

In Australia, they keep the names of convicted pedos private ... we are not allowed to know who they are. Just a 50 year old man, or a 20 year old man, or 30 year old woman, or whatever. "To protect the victim."
There is an ongoing battle here about that.

 

[NuttMegg]

<modsnip>I just reread the order. The judge goes to pains to make the AA sound extremely prejudicial and causing great potential harm to the "victims" - whom we assume to mean not only SM but also the daughters - as well as to witnesses. He also believes the law leans to the side of the defense because of the contents of the AA being in large part not evidentiary to the crime accused (if I am interpreting correctly). As another sleuther pointed out - waiting or never releasing the AA gives the defense more advantages in terms of prepping their witnesses, etc. So their the judge and defense are in agreement. I hope the Media pursues release if the AA. I think the judge is erring too far on the side of the defense. BM deserves a fair trial but if the AA is that prejudicial, God help the defense when 9hot9s if the evidence are played on a big screen for all the world to see.

I get all of that except how could it be prejudicial to SM?

 

[Boxer]

<modsnip> I just reread the order. The judge goes to pains to make the AA sound extremely prejudicial and causing great potential harm to the "victims" - whom we assume to mean not only SM but also the daughters - as well as to witnesses. He also believes the law leans to the side of the defense because of the contents of the AA being in large part not evidentiary to the crime accused (if I am interpreting correctly). As another sleuther pointed out - waiting or never releasing the AA gives the defense more advantages in terms of prepping their witnesses, etc. So the judge and defense are in agreement (rolling eyes!). I hope the Media continues to pursue release of the AA. I think the judge is erring too far on the side of the defense. BM deserves a fair trial but if the AA is that prejudicial, God help the defense when 9hot9s if the evidence are played on a big screen for all the world to see.

Yes. BM has no boundaries, so no telling what damage he did to all that were close to him.
Destroying witness credibility is the Eytan Nielsen specialty.

 

[k-mac]

News flash for Barry.
Annoyed as we may be.....

We are all enjoying our warm beds and Fred Flinstone size streaks.....

Your not...your in jail.....

We'll wait .

 

[Deleted member 222031]

I get all of that except how could it be prejudicial to SM?

I'm assuming if it hurts the daughters, it hurts their memory of SM? The AA contains facts and logical (we hope) assumptions about those facts. It should be redacted as necessary and released. SM is the only victim, as I see it. Her daughters will be living with this the rest of their lives. If they are indeed victims, it is not due to actions of the court but due to actions of the perp. <modsnip> I don't know the answer.

 

[10ofRods]

When the Watts case began, within just a couple of weeks someone had cranked out a kindle book on the case, and many of us could see our own posts rephrased a little by that author. Obviously the author had eyes glued to WS. This really happened.

However, I do not for a moment think the other was Watts himself.

Barry is no longer reading WS.

(THAT Barry, not OUR Barry).

 

[Deleted member 222031]

I saw your name and flipped out. What? Barry’s on here reading all of our posts? When I became rational, I DID wonder if he could be here, reading and responding. It’s happened before on WS.

Thanks for the chuckle @Midwestmom2019!

 

[10ofRods]

Yes. BM has no boundaries, so no telling what damage he did to all that were close to him.
Destroying witness credibility is the Eytan Nielsen specialty.

I think this is super important here. BM has created a dysfunctional...mess...that now extends far beyond the boundaries of his family (he loves invading boundaries, it's in his nature - whether by nurture or genetics). The person closest to him, who knew the most about containing him and comforting him, has been destroyed. No one in his immediate family system could believe that, at first. There are some who still don't.

The Court has decided to go gentle on those next victims. The more I think about it, the more I'm okay with it.

The outcome is the same (hearings in August). The Court arrested Barry and put him in jail and has not entertained, yet, any motions for bail (which would likely go to appeal at this point). So while Barry's attorneys got a "win" here, Barry himself gets to chill until August 9-24, which is probably not what he thinks he hired them for.

The Court thinks the AA contains information that would disturbing to some of the victims and to the potential jurors.

 

[Cindizzi]

I thought in his first interview with LS, JP said that BM mentioned the job to him on Saturday afternoon. When BM called MG early Sunday, he told her to get a crew together and to call JP. I thought JP did call BM Sunday morning to confirm after MG called him. MG said she was surprised that BM was asking for extra help. She said it was supposed to be just her and him and that they had postponed the job several times.
I wonder if BM thought it would look bad if his alibi consisted of just him and MG at a hotel on Sunday night.

I remembered it the same as you. That JP not only saw BM in Salida Saturday afternoon, but also discussed the job.

I found the original story by LS. I guess we know now why she waited to release the part about the bobcat

Suzanne Morphew's husband left cheap Denver hotel room reeking of chlorine, littered with insurance letters, co-worker claims

Puckett mentioned he saw Barry in person on Saturday, May 9, and described the work he’d been hired to do, a project involving fixing a wall. But, he said, Barry didn’t leave him to tools he needed.

 

[Whiteorchids]

Saving this, as there are several points of interest to me.
It's clear that most if not all here want Suzanne to have justice and her killer, Barry, a fair trial.
To this end -- if we have to wait for the AA, so be it.

The lawyers for Barry may not want the AA to be released as it would be difficult for his side of the family.
Wonder what the Moorman's think about this and if they'll weigh in ?
Imo.

How is now, 6mo or even a year from now going to make any difference in coping that their Father is capable of killing Mom? <modsnip> JMO MOO

 

[Deleted member 222031]

I remembered it the same as you. That JP not only saw BM in Salida Saturday afternoon, but also discussed the job.

I found the original story by LS. I guess we know now why she waited to release the part about the bobcat

Suzanne Morphew's husband left cheap Denver hotel room reeking of chlorine, littered with insurance letters, co-worker claims

Puckett mentioned he saw Barry in person on Saturday, May 9, and described the work he’d been hired to do, a project involving fixing a wall. But, he said, Barry didn’t leave him to tools he needed.

Something about him leaving the tools on a hotel cart accessible to anyone (I assume) has been bothering me. Those tools have monetary value. Was he hoping they would be stolen and hard or impossible to retrieve?

 

[LietKynes]

@Whiteorchids : Exactly ! ITA.
Like I said in a previous post, I think the AA needs to be released sooner rather than later.
But it's up to the judge and it's hard to be patient.
Imo.