Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #61 *ARREST*

[nyvictoria]

Tech dinosaur here...asking for help/clarification, not challenging.

Do we know..is it the device that allows recovery of all Suzanne's history of texts? or is that sitting on a cloud???Do they need the actual phone?

I'm not sure that we are there yet, but it would seem a writing style and vocabulary would be as pertinent as a signature. Hence the art of handwriting analysis. Handwriting analysis is admissible as as evidence.


Noted that in Letecia Stauch AA(page 20) they feel she used Gannon's phone for certain searches because she had the peculiar habit of adding "." before a search, Gannon didn't.

BBM

There are experts who can testify about style, similarities, unusual aspects, etc about someone’s written electronic communications.

Forensic linguists can make or break a court case. So who are they and what do they do?

 

[EggSalad]

We get a thoroughly detailed explanation (by Chris) of the ruling to keep the affidavit sealed. The Morphew case is discussed in the first half of the show - starts at about 8 mins in. Highly recommend for anyone having trouble absorbing all the lawyer-speak. (Like moi. - Thank you very much, lawyers! Learning so much from you!)

I didn’t make it through the whole episode because work interrupted it. But was the gist of it:

-The defense is considering BM and the girls “alleged victims”
-The defense is launching their own investigation; presumably this is in regards to their request for all LE emails, texts, etc...
-The information in the AA is damaging to the “alleged victims” and shouldn’t be released until the defense concluded their own investigation.
-The defense appears to be going down the road of police corruption, BM was framed by LE

Does that sound right? Given, BM’s “voting history” the ‘I’m not guilty, it’s everyone else who is corrupt’ sounds extremely on brand.


MOO, but I also can’t help but wonder if there is some type of Venn diagram between BM crownies, Chaffee County Patriots, and LE that presents some concerns to the court and people’s safety.

 

[Error505]

I just read the judges ruling. My take away reading between the lines is that the evidence is going to be gruesome. I can only hope and Pray that the daughters get the help they will need.

My take after rereading the judges opinion too! Listening to CM’s latest YouTube video posted by @swedeheart helps bring me to that conclusion. I could be totally wrong. MOO

 

[Error505]

I didn’t make it through the whole episode because work interrupted it. But was the gist of it:

-The defense is considering BM and the girls “alleged victims”
-The defense is launching their own investigation; presumably this is in regards to their request for all LE emails, texts, etc...
-The information in the AA is damaging to the “alleged victims” and shouldn’t be released until the defense concluded their own investigation.
-The defense appears to be going down the road of police corruption, BM was framed by LE

Does that sound right? Given, BM’s “voting history” the ‘I’m not guilty, it’s everyone else who is corrupt’ sounds extremely on brand.


MOO, but I also can’t help but wonder if there is some type of Venn diagram between BM crownies, Chaffee County Patriots, and LE that presents some concerns to the court and people’s safety.

Venn Diagram = Militia members possibly (?) MOO

 

[Ontario Mom]

I think the timing of BM’s trip to DSI to work on his bobcat is fascinating.

-He sees JP but doesn’t ask him to work on the Broomfield wall
-It’s right after he leaves the Salida job site where the bobcat is being used and by MG’s account it was working.
-It’s at a time when he says he is going home to make the wife happy
-Aside from the Broomfield wall on Sunday, it’s not known that BM did anymore work requiring a bobcat, so why change an attachment?
-It could also be the time BM did something mechanical to his bobcat and conveniently excluded that from his FBI questioning.

So was he fixing something that was broken or was he changing attachments for a “job” he needed to do, AKA, bury SM?

Could he have been swapping out identical attachments because one was dirty?

I've seen a couple of comments now about the infamous bobcat being used by MG at the beach site on Saturday - but - I can't find anything in MSM that says she was using a bobcat. Does someone have a link for this? TIA

 

[CGray123]

I believe Judge Murphy will find probable cause in August, and I hope he denies bail. But then, the case should move quickly. Trial must take place within six months of the day he enters a plea of not guilty. So we could have a verdict by next March.

 

[EggSalad]

I've seen a couple of comments now about the infamous bobcat being used by MG at the beach site on Saturday - but - I can't find anything in MSM that says she was using a bobcat. Does someone have a link for this? TIA

The term MG uses ‘rake out’ the beach area, refers to the bobcat usage.

Landscape Rake Attachment - Bobcat Company

There may be other details in a MSM article, but I don’t recall them off hand.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Venn Diagram = Militia members possibly (?) MOO

I'm lost...what and where is this about "militia"?? Is this more Chris "speculation stuff" or where an when did speculation around "militia" come into the picture?

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I didn’t make it through the whole episode because work interrupted it. But was the gist of it:

-The defense is considering BM and the girls “alleged victims”
-The defense is launching their own investigation; presumably this is in regards to their request for all LE emails, texts, etc...
-The information in the AA is damaging to the “alleged victims” and shouldn’t be released until the defense concluded their own investigation.
-The defense appears to be going down the road of police corruption, BM was framed by LE

Does that sound right? Given, BM’s “voting history” the ‘I’m not guilty, it’s everyone else who is corrupt’ sounds extremely on brand.


MOO, but I also can’t help but wonder if there is some type of Venn diagram between BM crownies, Chaffee County Patriots, and LE that presents some concerns to the court and people’s safety.

Makes sense. Barry is only charged with murder. He has not been determined to be the murderer so while ultimately Suzanne would be the "victim" regardless of who murdered her...Barry and the girls are the "victims" of her disappearance from their nuclear family at this point in time. That's how I interpreted how the Colorado law was applied. As far as defense hiring investigators...I think that is not all that uncommon in cases like this that are highly circumstantial. I'm not sure that his "voting" has bearing with this case. I guess I thought that was a totally separate charge with it's own docket number.

 

[Error505]

I'm lost...what and where is this about "militia"?? Is this more Chris "speculation stuff" or where an when did speculation around "militia" come into the picture?

Speculation on my part because of common interest among quite a few of BM associates which is why I posted a ? and said MOO.

Why so disparaging about CM? He and MK are a huge asset to those with true crime interests: decades of experience profiling murderers and dealing with victims. Or did I take your comment wrong? Again MOO

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Venn Diagram = Militia members possibly (?) MOO

Huh? Not understanding how Venn diagram = Militia. (lol, was a question for a tv show I watched last night, so I do know what such is)


Can you expound on your thinking?

 

[swedeheart]

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

text messages are used all the time in trials, If the text is still on the recipients phone and it can be shown that it came from SM's phone i don't think there will be any reason not to believe SM did not send it in this case.

Yes, texts are admissible. And could be shown to prove SM was alive perhaps. The only thing I was talkign abotu what the content of the texts and what they can be presented to prove. If the text ("Barry hit me the other day") or ("Barry is a terrible and threateening man") are there to prove he is a wife beater and a terrible man, they would likely be excluded as hearsay as they are submitted to prove the matter which they assert. If she wrote" Barry just hit me!" or "Barry is digging a hole int he front yard" then that would likely be admissible as an exception to the hearsay rule even though SM is not around to testify, as they are present sense impressions of what she is observing, or excited utterances. Also, if they ping from a location, they can be used to prove location for example. All I am saying is that the content and what it is being used to prove does matter when it comes to the hearsay rule. 3 years of law school and 20 years of practice but hey, I could be wrong I suppose.

 

[EggSalad]

Huh? Not understanding how Venn diagram = Militia. (lol, was a question for a tv show I watched last night, so I do know what such is)


Can you expound on your thinking?

A Venn diagram is when there is common overlap amongst multiple groups.

An example:
1. Men
2. People who like cheese
3. People who like football

So a man that likes cheese and football would be in the center of the Venn diagram because they overlap all three groups.

I was speculating that there could be a similar occurrence between BM’s local friends, the Chaffee County Patriots and LE. In that scenario the judge might be keeping the AA sealed as there is apparently a lot of testimony and it could put some of the witnesses in an unsafe position given those various groups.

 

[Error505]

Huh? Not understanding how Venn diagram = Militia. (lol, was a question for a tv show I watched last night, so I do know what such is)


Can you expound on your thinking?

I was looking at what might be common interests among BM associates (the definition of a Venn Diagram). And posing it more or less as a question to original OP, Thats why I added the ?

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Makes sense. Barry is only charged with murder. He has not been determined to be the murderer so while ultimately Suzanne would be the "victim" regardless of who murdered her...Barry and the girls are the "victims" of her disappearance from their nuclear family at this point in time. That's how I interpreted how the Colorado law was applied. As far as defense hiring investigators...I think that is not all that uncommon in cases like this that are highly circumstantial. I'm not sure that his "voting" has bearing with this case. I guess I thought that was a totally separate charge with it's own docket number.

Maybe character or habit
Evidence, depending on how it’s put forth. Here’s some good reading. It’s federal but probably is like CO law. Rule 406. Habit; Routine Practice

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Speculation on my part because of common interest among quite a few of BM associates which is why I posted a ? and said MOO.

Why so disparaging about CM? He and MK are a huge asset to those with true crime interests: decades of experience profiling murderers and dealing with victims. Or did I take your comment wrong? Again MOO

I think it's not out of the realm to say he is quite opinionated. People seem to take his commentary as "gospel" when quite a bit that he says is really his opinion and not objective at times. Disparaging...not really, he's entitled to broadcast his opinion....am I cautionary when he is referenced and quoted....absolutely. It helps to remember that he has spent his career in law enforcement so his bias shows often and frequently and his language can be quite inflammatory at times so I view it as op-ed or the view from that side of the courtroom.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Maybe character or habit
Evidence, depending on how it’s put forth. Here’s some good reading. It’s federal but probably is like CO law. Rule 406. Habit; Routine Practice

This looks to be the Colorado law....Rule 404 - Character Evidence; Other Crimes, Wrongs, or Acts [Effective July 1, 2021], Colo. R. Evid. 404 | Casetext Search + Citator

 

[CGray123]

We get a thoroughly detailed explanation (by Chris) of the ruling to keep the affidavit sealed. The Morphew case is discussed in the first half of the show - starts at about 8 mins in. Highly recommend for anyone having trouble absorbing all the lawyer-speak. (Like moi. - Thank you very much, lawyers! Learning so much from you!)

I like CM, and I get information and law enforcement perspective from his podcast, but like others I am critical of some of his themes: (1) oversimplifying, disparaging, undermining, and otherwise misrepresenting the laws and processes that protect all of us from arbitrary government action; and (2) disparaging and misrepresenting the efforts of defense counsel as less than honest, devoid of integrity, a mere game doing whatever it takes to absolve their guilty client of responsibility.

I listen and appreciate, but with a critical ear that accounts for his biases and prejudices - which BTW are right out there for everyone to see.

 

[Ontario Mom]

The term MG uses ‘rake out’ the beach area, refers to the bobcat usage.

Landscape Rake Attachment - Bobcat Company

There may be other details in a MSM article, but I don’t recall them off hand.

I've never seen anything in the MSM that says she was actually using that bobcat, so is it just an assumption that she was because she said BM wanted her to rake out the beach "flat flat flat"?