Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #61 *ARREST*

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  • #661
Why would it be re-addressed (is that a word?) and what makes it a historical landmark?
Owners must be legally able to apply for a new street address number if there is some major negative past event associated with a residence. In the Jennifer Dulos case, the owner of the luxury home Jennifer had been renting for herself and the children in New Canaan, CT acquired a new address number for that home subsequent to Jennifer's abduction and murder there.
 
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  • #662
We're only dealing with 3 days -- Fri, Sat & Sun -- but I'm so confused. Could someone do a succinct chonology of those days? Maybe it's been done before... I don't know. The beach, DSI, the river house ... having a hard time keeping it straight.
 
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Owners must be legally able to apply for new street address number if there is some major negative past event associated with a residence. In the Jennifer Dulos case, the owner of the luxury home Jennifer had been renting for herself and the children in New Canaan, CT acquired a new address number for that home subsequent to Jennifer's abduction and murder there.
Wow you learn something new everyday here at WS. So if that house sold, is a disclosure to the buyer still a must?
 
  • #664
Not in the legal sense. Perhaps Chris was giving an opinion as he often does. As I said previously there are many victims in the dictionary sense but the judge is talking specifically in the legal sense.
Yes, the Affidavit specifically refers to the Victim's Rights Act in support of sealing the affidavit. "It is the job of the prosecution and the court to assure victims and witnesses are not harrassed, intimidated or abused."

I'm sure the court is not discounting or minimizing the fact that Suzanne is the true victim of a homicide.

I think he wants to make sure the victims are treated fairly according the law. I would think that's what Suzanne would want too, especially for her daughters. Imo
 
  • #665
"(5) "Victim" means any natural person against whom any crime has been perpetrated or attempted, unless the person is accountable for the crime or a crime arising from the same conduct or plan as crime is defined under the laws of this state or of the United States, or, if such person is deceased or incapacitated, the person's spouse, parent, legal guardian, child, sibling, grandparent, grandchild, significant other, or other lawful representative.


All right.
MOO So under Part 3 all family members are included as well as witnesses.
And yet the judge specifically focuses on the daughters in clear, direct language, numerous times as if only they would be endangered physically or psychologically (or otherwise compromised) by public release of the AA.

I am still puzzled as to why the attorneys on both sides cannot find time to redact to speed up release. I wonder if the Media are appealing?

I think the judge's opinions are led too much by his personal reading of what must be very shocking details - however extraneous to evidence he may find them - rather than just a fidelity to the law.

I hope the Media test his conclusions vigorously. MOO
 
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  • #666
They are likely victims of his manipulation ... manipulation with regard to the convenient camping trip and Mothers Day calls to their mother. Which could be directly related to the crime. Get the girls out of the way. And get the girls to discover that their mother is no longer around for their texts/calls.

And potentially victims of further manipulation, if they are to be called to the stand during the trial and he pre-influences them further.
And the alleged perpetrator is allowed contact with his daughters. To me, as victims, this could impact any testimony they may give. Perhaps they should be shielded from his potential influence if the judge's deep concerns about them being harmed are valid. The wolf within the family may be worse than the wolf pack of media, etc. outside the family! JUST MY OPINION
 
  • #667
Wow you learn something new everyday here at WS. So if that house sold, is a disclosure to the buyer still a must?
I don't think so, at least not in Colorado. In the Watts case I remember discussing this and the broker is not obligated to reveal that a murder took place in the home. Imo
 
  • #668
I agree that it must not have been a major job as BM apparently just showed up to the shop on a Saturday afternoon. However, I disagree that it's not big deal IF this is the bit he "forgot" to tell LE. It’s unlikely he couldn't remember his activities just the day before. So ...why leave that part out?
I agree. If this is the “mechanical thing” he forgot to mention to LE, it’s a very big deal. He obviously was doing something he didn’t want them to know about. JP must have told LE that he saw Barry there. They then confronted Barry, who said, “Oops. I forgot. “ Maybe he damaged something? Or had to replace an attachment because it had evidence on it?
 
  • #669
And yet the judge specifically focuses on the daughters in clear, direct language, numerous times as if only they would be endangered physically or psychologically (or otherwise compromised) by public release of the AA.

I am still puzzled as to why the attorneys on both sides cannot find time to redact to speed up release. I wonder if the Media are appealing?

I think the judge's opinions are led too much by his personal reading of what must be very shocking details - however extraneous to evidence he may find them - rather than just a fidelity to the law.

I hope the Media test his conclusions vigorously. MOO
Agree.
MOO even-handedness would dictate Suzanne Morphews siblings being included.
 
  • #670
I will be very surprised if we learn that MG used the Bobcat. For one thing, there's no mention of the Bobcat even being there. Just BM, telling MG to "rake." The Bobcat would have had to be trailered and taken away that morning (Saturday) because somehow it is on Barry's property and wrapped in crime scene tape by Monday. Barry could have taken it to Broomfield, but no one says he came back to the beach property. It's my opinion that using the Bobcat to level the beach would make sense, but to get that truly "beach" feeling on a slope that's just been created, I think a hand rake is by far a better tool for the right look. I do not think Barry left MG with the Bobcat or ever let her operate it, for that matter.

But if he did let her use it Saturday morning, when does he go back and get it? Makes BM a very busy man. To me, it sounded like he just left the site rather abruptly around 11 am, canceling the rest of MG's day of work. It's my understand the beach aspect of the landscaping had already been done in the days before.

Scheduling someone to work for 8 hours on a Saturday when it would only take 5 minutes (with Bobcat) seems absurd, but then, so much in this case is absurd.

MOO, BM always did his own work but hired people like MG to assist. So my assumption is that he was working along side her. MOO, he always had that bobcat with him, especially that weekend. But in his line of work that would make sense. He was basically a guy with a bobcat for hire.
 
  • #671
I agree. If this is the “mechanical thing” he forgot to mention to LE, it’s a very big deal. He obviously was doing something he didn’t want them to know about. JP must have told LE that he saw Barry there. They then confronted Barry, who said, “Oops. I forgot. “ Maybe he damaged something? Or had to replace an attachment because it had evidence on it?
Or when he retraced his Saturday there was no mention of his visit to DSI. So his timeline-either via his vehicle, cell phone, or even Jeff, was way off. When you lie to LE, it’s a problem.
 
  • #672
We're only dealing with 3 days -- Fri, Sat & Sun -- but I'm so confused. Could someone do a succinct chonology of those days? Maybe it's been done before... I don't know. The beach, DSI, the river house ... having a hard time keeping it straight.
@OldCop had a very good timeline going iirc. I don’t think we’ve looked at in several weeks. I’ll see if I can find the link to his WS post.
 
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  • #673
Not in the legal sense. Perhaps Chris was giving an opinion as he often does. As I said previously there are many victims in the dictionary sense but the judge is talking specifically in the legal sense.

I want to understand this better. In your opinion M1 & M2 are victims in the legal sense? Do you think possibly they will testify? Were they the recipients of DV? What are your thoughts on this?
 
  • #674
Are we going in circles? I hope I don’t confuse anyone!
VICTIMS: CO Law
https://casetext.com/statute/colorado-revised-statutes/title-24-government-state/administration/article-41-crime-victim-compensation-and-victim-and-witness-rights/part-3-guidelines-for-assuring-the-rights-of-victims-of-and-witnesses-to-crimes/section-24-41-302-definitions
“Victim" means any natural person against whom any crime has been perpetrated or attempted, unless the person is accountable for the crime or a crime arising from the same conduct or plan as crime is defined under the laws of this state or of the United States, or, if such person is deceased or incapacitated, the person's spouse, parent, legal guardian, child, sibling, grandparent, grandchild, significant other, or other lawful representative. For purposes of notification under this part 3, any person under the age of eighteen years is considered incapacitated, unless that person is legally emancipated. It is the intent of the general assembly that this definition of the term "victim" shall apply only to this part 3 and shall not be applied to any other provision of the laws of the state of Colorado that refer to the term "victim".


(6) "Victim's immediate family" means the spouse, any child by birth or adoption, any stepchild, the parent, the stepparent, a sibling, a legal guardian, significant other, or a lawful representative of the victim
MM1 and MM2 would be victims, but not BM
Am I understanding correctly? EBM typo Queen
Yes. The daughters are victims in terms of the victim's rights statute. Her siblings are also victims. BM would have been considered a victim, but he's excluded since he is accused of committing the crime.

The reason the judge mentioned the daughters specifically is because they were the ones identified as being potentially harmed in the defense's motion to keep the AA sealed, so that was the argument in front of the court. It doesn't sound like her siblings were mentioned in the motions filed by either side.
 
  • #675
And the alleged perpetrator is allowed contact with his daughters. To me, as victims, this could impact any testimony they may give. Perhaps they should be shielded from his potential influence if the judge's deep concerns about them being harmed are valid. The wolf within the family may be worse than the wolf pack of media, etc. outside the family! JUST MY OPINION


Exactly what I was wondering. They are singled out as victims as are the witnesses yet they are allowed to be in contact with him. Possibly they don't know that the knowledge they possess is incriminating? If the judge wanted all witnesses according to @Boxer quoted, why wouldn't all siblings, children etc. be listed as protected?

I imagine there is something big we know nothing about. This piece of the puzzle doesn't fit for me.
 
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Owners must be legally able to apply for a new street address number if there is some major negative past event associated with a residence. In the Jennifer Dulos case, the owner of the luxury home Jennifer had been renting for herself and the children in New Canaan, CT acquired a new address number for that home subsequent to Jennifer's abduction and murder there.

The street number of the home where JonBenet Ramsey was murdered on 15th Str, Boulder, CO was changed, as well. But, it wasn't marked as Historical.

As for the AA protection, guys, it's got to be bad, real bad for Barry for this Judge order keeping it sealed until, when, September?

If Suzanne's precious baby girls need this time so they don't lose their minds, then I'm willing to wait. I'll stand in the gap for them.

I was once married to a Barry. Their psychological methodology can make you think you are the crazy one. I pray none of you ever experience the type of horror this personality type can inflict upon a good person because it changes the way you live the rest of your life.

It's been many years of peace since I left yet I remain hypervigilant, just in case, he were to cross my path or try to enter my door because they're dangerously unpredictable.

One day my 4yo granddaughter asked if I loved PopPop. Without missing a beat, I looked at her, smiled and answered, "Yes."

It's not my right to screw up her happy little life with thoughts of what her DeDee went through because of her PopPop. My daughter knows he's crazy but it doesn't mean that she doesn't love him. One day, M&M will know the truth about their father, too. It won't be easy.
 
  • #678
We're only dealing with 3 days -- Fri, Sat & Sun -- but I'm so confused. Could someone do a succinct chonology of those days? Maybe it's been done before... I don't know. The beach, DSI, the river house ... having a hard time keeping it straight.
I don't know how to forward a post from an old thread but I found a timeline by @OldCop (mentioned by @Error505). Copied below. It was posted in Thread #45, p. 12. Please educate me if this could be reposted a better way. Thx!

HERE YA GO:
"Suzanne Morphew Timeline as of 10/9/20

This timeline represents the period from 5/8/20-5/12/20, the dates which LE deemed most important regarding her disappearance. The information was compiled from CCSO press releases, MSM, permitted WS information such as PE broadcasts and the TD video, and with input from WS members. This is a floating timeline which is adjusted as new facts come to light.

Friday 5/8/20


Evening, exact time unknown:
-BM works at “beach area” at Salida dig site (MG)

Saturday 5/9/20

A.M.:
-BM & MG at Salida dig site. MG states BM was acting unusual. MG is supposed to rake out beach area that BM had worked on the night before. (MG). BM picked up MG (unverified) to bring her there.

11:00 a.m.:
-BM tells MG to go home. He tells her he has to go home to make wife “happy” and take her hiking or biking. (Did BM drop off MG?)

12:30 p.m. : (conflicting information, time not verified, could be later in the day, or even earlier)
-SM is talking with BFF on a message app or FB when suddenly she stops replying.

4:00 p.m.: New Info
-SM & BM are seen in a sandwich shop in Salida

Afternoon, exact time unknown:
-BM makes contact with JP and hires him for a Broomfield job on Sunday. According to JP, this was an in person meeting in Salida. Was this before or after SM and BM were in the sandwich shop?
-MG states that BM was seen shopping around town. (Unverified)

Evening, exact time unknown:
-SM’s bff receives texts that seem “unusual” from SM
-Friends of BM see SM appear in “Friend Suggestions” and “People You May Know” on their FB pages. (@Hoosierfan72)
-New Info: Friends of AM receive friend requests from SM

11:30 p.m.:
-A neighbor of a home being built in Salida hears heavy machinery running for about a half hour. BM has been hired to do prep work for a foundation pour at this site. This is the same site where he is also prepping the “beach area”.

Sunday 5/10/20

4:00 a.m. New Info
-According to MG, BM contacts her and asks her to get a crew together to head to Broomfield for the job. MG stated that BM sounded like he had the worst night of his life. ?
-It was first reported that BM was on the road driving to Broomfield when he began texting MG. Later reports said BM actually pulled up outside MG’s house and texted her from there.
-Was BM actually at/in MG’s House that morning at 4:00 a.m.?

5:00 a.m.: Conflicting Info
-BM told LE that he leaves SM sleeping and heads to a job in Broomfield, CO approximately 3 hours from his home in Maysville. The job allegedly consists of a repair to a wall that BM had completed the previous September and that had structural problems.


A.M. Exact time unknown:
-BM checks into the HIE in Broomfield.
-JP confirms Salida job with BM. (JP)

5:46 p.m.:
-SM is reported missing by a neighbor. SM’s daughters allegedly contacted her and said they were worried because they hadn’t been able to reach their mother. Exact details are unclear, but neighbor checked the house and did not find SM but noted her car was there. ETA THE FOLLOWING INFO SHOULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO PE NOT TD: The neighbor then allegedly contacted BM and he asked her to go back and check if her bike was there. The neighbor checked, returned home, and called BM on her landline and told him the bike was gone. BM asked her to call LE.

Approximately 6:00 p.m.:
-BM started home to Maysville. (TD)
-LE arrives at the Morphew home where they are met by the neighbor who reportedly told them that SM had not returned from a bike ride.
-LE begins a search. Dog teams from the prison and County SAR teams are called in. (CCSO)


After 6:00p.m.?: (Time not confirmed)
-JP, MG, and a third worker arrived at the HIE in Broomfield. It is not clear if all 3 travelled together. JP and MG both report that there was an intense smell of chlorine in the room and several wet towels on the floor. JP stated that it looked like someone had laid down on the bed, on top of the bedspread. MG stated that the bed looked like it had been slept in and remade.

Approximately 6:10 p.m.
-BM let workers know that he had left for a family emergency and that they were on their own. Workers allegedly found some of BM’s tools in a “hotel cart”. MG stated they looked like a bunch of tools from the back of BM’s truck. Both JP and MG indicated they had neither the correct tools nor the materials to do the job.

Sometime before 9:00 p.m. :
-LE allegedly finds SM’s bike down a hill about a quarter of a mile from her home. (Never verified by LE). There is no sign of SM. The Morphew home is allegedly sealed off.
-Friend(s) of BM arrive at search area (unverified)

Approximately 9:00 p.m.:
-BM arrives home.
-Friend(s) tell BM that SM’s bike was found and that LE mishandled the scene/evidence. (BM to TD)

(At some point, either Sunday night or Monday, volunteer firefighters were told not to participate in the official searches. BM told TD in a later video that his friend tried to stop LE from mishandling the evidence, which may have been the reason that they were not allowed to participate further.)

Monday 5/11/20

Time unknown:
-Concrete foundation is poured at the Salida dig site.

A.M.:
-Search resumes after overnight break. Over 100 LE are eventually involved including LE on foot, drones, divers, aircraft, SAR, Swift Water Rescue units, and various canines.
-BM calls MG crying and tells her SM is missing and that either a mountain lion got her or she was abducted. He stated they were going up the mountain to search. He tells MG and JP to stay in Broomfield and wait for supplies to be delivered for the job.

P.M.:
-AM arrives in town to help look for his sister, meets with BM and some friends, and they formulate a plan to search for SM the following day.

Tuesday 5/12/2020

A.M.:
-LE continue their search. No request for volunteers was made.
-BM, AM, and friends divide into teams to search. They were not allowed to search where LE was actively searching, but could cover area already searched. AM and BM we’re on separate teams. At one point, a member of AM’s team separated from the group. They backtracked to try to find him. He was later located back at the home where BM was staying. (On the following Thursday, 5/14/2020, a personal article, (now believed to be SM’s bike helmet), belonging to SM, was found about 20 yards from the trail where AM’s team was searching. Were they meant to find it? Was it placed there by the disappearing team member?)

Exact time unknown:
-MG, JP, and possibly one other person arrived back in Salida after no supplies were delivered to complete the job in Broomfield.
-MG was allegedly approached by two individuals connected to BM, TN and GD, who told her she would not be paid for her time in Broomfield because it would look like hush, hush, money. MG also implied that she was asked not to cooperate with LE or turn over her phone.

8:00 p.m.:
-BM was observed by an employee of the Poncha Market digging in a trash can. (The market had closed at 7:00 p.m.) Upon being questioned, BM states he is looking for a bike helmet.
-Shortly thereafter, BM taps on market window and when they let him in he stated that his wife was missing. When asked for a description he wrote a note on a crumbled receipt. The note said:

Baby Blue bike
helmet

Biking clothes

(No further description)


By Tuesday or Wednesday, CCSO has asked CBI and FBI for assistance."
 
  • #679
Both, actually. According to MG in her interview with LS, BM worked at the site the night before, then BM and MG worked there again Saturday. She expected to work all day, but BM called the day short around 11am when he said he had to go make "the wife" happy, with hiking or biking.
IMO she was using the Bobcat to rake the beach area flat, some construction workers are paid more if they are using a piece of equipment as opposed to a hand yard tool such as a rake. I think that is why IMOI got the impression she was miffed because her hours were cut short. Back in the day I did a very complicated payroll for a construction company where the workers were paid on a pay scale depending what piece of equipment they were using and also if within that work day they crossed county lines they were paid a different rate according to the original bid for the job and what each county pay rate was bid in at.
 
  • #680
If not now, then when?

When might the AA be made public?
 
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