Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #61 *ARREST*

[Momofthreeboys]

Are Tyson Drapers YouTube comments approved to quote on Websleuths?

And is there anyone who remembers the Judge’s order saying the AA was “gruesome”? Because I don’t!

Thanks in advance.

Lol no the judge didn’t even come close. Gruesome sounds like You Tube word.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Lol no the judge didn’t even come close. Gruesome sounds like You Tube word.

Thank you. Yes it was and I cannot imagine Suzanne’s family appreciating it one bit! (unless it’s true. )

 

[Momofthreeboys]

They may not get a copy themselves but I don't see why it can't be explained or summarized for the family. It seems cruel to make them wait until the AA is released to the public for family to learn all the details about how their loved one was killed.

If they know what happened to Suzanne my guess is it might be shared in some way if Barry is bound over for trial. If they don’t know then it would be premature at this time in my opinion.

 

[Error505]

Are Tyson Drapers YouTube comments approved to quote on Websleuths?

And is there anyone who remembers the Judge’s order saying the AA was “gruesome”? Because I don’t!

Thanks in advance.

No, I just re-read the judge’s order again, 4 th time. The word “gruesome” is never entered in the Order. Link to order again
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases of interest/21CR78/21CR78 Order Limit Public Redacted.pdf
MOO
EBM to answer Q on TD video comments. I’m not a mod, but I do know comments to TD videos would not be an approved source. There was a one time exception and the only TD video approved is the interview TD did of BM.
@Sillybilly correct me if I’m wrong, please.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Are Tyson Drapers YouTube comments approved to quote on Websleuths?

And is there anyone who remembers the Judge’s order saying the AA was “gruesome”? Because I don’t!

Thanks in advance.

TD YT comments: NO, thankfully.
The ONLY TD video approved on this thread, is the "accidental recording" video linked in prior threads.

"Gruesome" comments: no.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Thanks to everyone. Whew I’m glad that was just YouTube “junk” but it’s so irresponsible without LE stating this. I read the judge’s order once and never saw the word “gruesome”. Now I know I’m not crazy.

 

[al66pine]

Inflammatory What?
Judge's Order's "Analysis" recapped Def. arguments to limit AA release,
including "preventing the release of inflammatory information contained in the Affidavit,..." and (blah, blah).

Sarc Alert: Inflammatory information. What kind of argument is that?
This relates to Murder 1; it's not a letter of recommendation for church deacon. Shouldn't the AA contain some inflammatory information? Well, inflammatory for those who think negatively about an alleged murderer. Does not necessarily need to be inflammatory language. my2ct

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases of interest/21CR78/21CR78 Order Limit Public Redacted.pdf

 

[Error505]

I can't imagine being in their position, it really is horrible for them.

Yes, I see him trying to slide his way out of all the 'lies and slander' against him, but there's 130+ pages that need some 'splainin.

The 2 girls are in my thoughts every single day. There’s not a day go by, that I’m not genuinely concerned for them. Barry sure made a he!! of a mess out of a lot of people’s lives! I couldn’t live with myself knowing I caused such catastrophic damage to so many people. BM needs to grow a set and ‘fess-up and save his daughters & SM’s family the awful details which will come out at trial where he’s going to be found guilty anyway! At least that’s my hope! He’s as guilty as I’ve seen. MOO of course.

 

[Error505]

Inflammatory What?
Judge's Order's "Analysis" recapped Def. arguments to limit AA release,
including "preventing the release of inflammatory information contained in the Affidavit,..." and (blah, blah).

Sarc Alert: Inflammatory information. What kind of argument is that?
This relates to Murder 1; it's not a letter of recommendation for church deacon. Shouldn't the AA contain some inflammatory information? Well, inflammatory for those who think negatively about an alleged murderer. Does not necessarily need to be inflammatory language. my2ct

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases of interest/21CR78/21CR78 Order Limit Public Redacted.pdf

Love your 2 cents! I chuckled! Thank you! Discussing a murder charge may sound inflammatory to the guy in the cage the defense referred to. I’m sure he’s having a tough time in his concrete condo, no Saturday night pizzas and gym push up contests! Poor BM /s/

 

[10ofRods]

I can't imagine being in their position, it really is horrible for them.

Yes, I see him trying to slide his way out of all the 'lies and slander' against him, but there's 130+ pages that need some 'splainin.

Yes, but they won't read that until after the preliminary. And there's no avoiding the preliminary. Still, if Barry is cunning, he will prepare them by giving alternate theories to the main points of the AA.

By the time the AA is made public, there will likely be some redactions plus - the evidence will have been presented in a courtroom and the daughters will have access to that, as will we all.

 

[10ofRods]

IMO Barry likely doesn’t want his daughters seeing the AA at all. He knows that it doesn’t portray him as a innocent and loving husband. I think he feels the less info they have, the easier it is for him to continue to tell them his version of events. IMO he might be better off having them see everything before trial. He can tell them that it’s completely overblown and even the judge agreed. Ethics aside, is there anything preventing his counsel from sharing it with the daughters prior to public release?

I think his counsel would be in violation of the Court's order if they shared it.

But Barry is a "party to the case" and can share whatever he likes with his family. IMO. And his attorneys might advise him of that, and might facilitate it.

Even if he can't give them the actual AA, he can certainly talk to them about what he has read. And what's weird is...wouldn't the daughters want to speak to him about it? Like, "Hey, dad, what is it that you want suppressed?"

I know I would. Most of us would. But as others have said, sometimes children are manipulated from birth to do the bidding of a parent and cannot or will not see their way clear to implicating a parent.

Are Tyson Drapers YouTube comments approved to quote on Websleuths?

And is there anyone who remembers the Judge’s order saying the AA was “gruesome”? Because I don’t!

Thanks in advance.

Judge never used that word, period. IMO. Not even close.

 

[swedeheart]

 

[MsBetsy]

It was told by AM in one of his first interviews, the information was told to him by BM is what I remember, this was before IMO he realized BM was involved. I am trying to find the interview. I do believe this was the first time he was in Salida as soon as he had word SM was missing not the second time for the big search without BM.

I thought Andy mentioned the sandwich shop in one of his last interviews, right after the big search and just before he returned home. I don't think he heard it from Barry, but it was information that was out there in the beginning of the investigation. It's never been confirmed and I don't think we know the original source. Imo

 

[mom2chloe]

Maybe the judge is giving BM time to consider what the trial is going to be like and plead guilty.

What can be in the AA to assail his character if he is the head of a "just a Godly family."

I’m pretty certain there is something at least ungodly within the AA. Although whatever it is that we are not privy to now the deed is done and the DA is confident enough with the evidence to press charges and have him arrested. Barry alone is responsible for this but his girls should be protected to whatever extent. It’s all on Barry whatever the nightmare consists of and these girls are in an almost impossible situation. Again, Barry is responsible yet these girls will suffer the consequences of his bad choices forever. IMO

 

[charminglane]

What if the AA contains more crimes committed by BM than just Suzanne's case?
Is that possible, meaning possible other crimes could be included in it?
That would certainly be inflammatory in my book.

 

[CGray123]

Can you or any of our lawyers here cite a case where problems with public release of an AA before the prelim was cited in an appeal for 1st degree murder? Your justification seems like a reach to me unless there is precedent. As a former journalist, I will always lean toward public disclosure. After all, they can redact pages & pages of what the judge considers not probative if both sides agree to do that.

BBm. I think what the judge is saying is yes, they can do the redactions, but because of the length of the affidavit and the issues of relevance and admissibility, plus the need for great care and attention to detail, the redactions will take considerable time. Actually, he devotes much more of his decision to this basis of his decision than to the daughters IMO.

 

[Deleted member 222031]

We thought about that a lot in the Ristevski case. I think general consensus was that - being a daughter who might borrow mum's clothes every now and again, and might go shopping with mum - she would likely be more aware of her mother's clothing items than her dad was.

I noticed on SM's Facebook public posts that she and her younger daughter were wearing the same outfit in two pictures. It is a black two piece with flowers. Looks like they shared it, i.e., they were not wearing the same outfit at the same time.

 

[Hatch]

I thought Andy mentioned the sandwich shop in one of his last interviews, right after the big search and just before he returned home. I don't think he heard it from Barry, but it was information that was out there in the beginning of the investigation. It's never been confirmed and I don't think we know the original source. Imo

I had not caught up to the page where someone found the info on AM interview on Dr. Phil. I have not gone back and watched it, info was very sketchy at the beginning, middle and present. Hope we all know a lot of answers in August. You are correct in we don’t know who originally put the sandwich shop info out. IMO she was never there with BM.

 

[CGray123]

Yes, but they won't read that until after the preliminary. And there's no avoiding the preliminary. Still, if Barry is cunning, he will prepare them by giving alternate theories to the main points of the AA.

By the time the AA is made public, there will likely be some redactions plus - the evidence will have been presented in a courtroom and the daughters will have access to that, as will we all.

This must be right.

Under the Victim Rights Act, "victims" under the extended definition get a right: "To receive a free copy of the initial incident report from the investigating law enforcement agency; except that the release of a document associated with the investigation is at the discretion of the law enforcement agency based on the status of the case or security and safety concerns in a correctional facility, local jail, or private contract prison." No other special access to records.

I think when the judge made reference to the daughters' decision to read, or not to read, the arrest affidavit, he must have meant when it is released to the general public. They may think long and hard about that.

But I think they know all they need to know, and maybe the significance is sinking in. A terrible time for them.

 

[MsBetsy]

What if the AA contains more crimes committed by BM than just Suzanne's case?
Is that possible, meaning possible other crimes could be included in it?
That would certainly be inflammatory in my book.

I think "inflammatory" just means information that points to Barry being guilty, or that makes him look bad. The Affidavit is supposed to contain only evidence that supports probable cause for the charges, so I doubt there are any details not related to the case.

But yes, I'm sure there are plenty of pages of information that might arouse a lot of emotion, especially anger and shock. Imo