Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #62 *ARREST*

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  • #581
The investigation is ongoing. As pieces continue to fit together....the possibility remains that SM's body or part of it, can be found. I know it seems impossible....but she is out there somewhere...and it could happen....Barry's steps are being traced from A to Z.

Maybe it’s just my wishful thinking, but I’ve felt from the beginning that SUZANNE will be found.

I’m still holding on to that. May the earth give up her secrets—let SUZANNE be found.
 
  • #582
IMO, besides the fact I don’t think BM will ever confess due to his entitlement, arrogance and huge ego, *IF* dismemberment or desecration of SM’s body in any way, shape, or form is involved, the odds of him confessing/pleaing to lesser charge(s) go down significantly.
IMO, if BM dismembered/desecrated SM body, he won’t confess, cop a plea, trying to go with an assisted suicide, accident/self defense and panicked because it’s one thing to try and claim any of those scenarios happened and moved/concealed the body, quite another thing entirely to try and explain why you also chose to callously, heinously dismember/desecrate your loved one’s body. That is a whole other level of evil and a stretch to say the least for anyone to believe was ‘necessary’ in an assisted suicide, accident, or self defense scenario. Not to mention in a confession or plea deal using any of these scenarios are going to require BM to give up where he hid the body/remains and imo, he would never open up this can of worms so to speak if she’s buried in pieces or god forbid, there’s nothing left of her at all. (I hate the thought, even typing it is hard).
IMO, none of those scenarios make any sense, are not believable if he gruesomely disrespected her deceased body in any such way after she perished.
To be clear, not saying he did desecrate/dismember SM, obviously we don’t know if he went to such extremes. I personally don’t think he had enough time to accomplish anything beyond moving and concealing her body, but considering his skills and access to various and copious amount of tools, it’s not 100% completely out of question imo. Let’s just say, however improbable it might seem,
I won’t be shocked to learn if he did do something even more extreme/horrific.
IMO, *most* people in a sudden accident or self defense scenario don’t go to extreme efforts to move/conceal body, never mind dismember or totally obliterate their loved one’s body. IMO, *most* would be so distraught at what transpired/what they did, they’d call 911 hoping there’s a chance to save their loved one’s life, and worry about explaining later, but I digress.

In lieu of a confession/plea, and because I believe LE/DA have strong, damning evidence against BM, my feeling/guess is that he and his defense team are going to try and put on a discredit LE type of defense, that BM is a victim of LE incompetence, they targeted BM, planted evidence, had tunnel vision etc., etc. try to discredit prosecution witnesses, and posit that SODDI (some other dude did it), hoping to sway the minimum of one juror to their side.
Having said all that, I might feel less confident if it had just been small town local LE investigating, but with the CBI and FBI involved in this investigation since virtually moment one and all their vast experience, resources available and utilized, I say good luck to BM and his team trying to discredit LE if that’s the way they do decide to go. This is by no means CBII and FBI’s first rodeo and am confident especially considering it’s a no body case, that LE, CBI/FBI crossed every “t”, dotted every “i”, ensured that interviews and every tip and lead were followed up on, legally and effectively secured multiple probable cause search warrants, checked and ruled every other angle/potential suspect out, collected and handled every piece of evidence with care, thoroughly scrutinized, analyzed, and tested it for veracity etc., to the exclusion of any other person being responsible for eliminating SM from this earth, which is why the DA was able and confident in filing the charges she filed against BM. And I believe that at the end of potential future trial, jurors will be able to see through all the defense grandstanding and smoke and mirrors, that LE/DA, evidence, and truth will prevail- BM will be convicted on all charges and sent back to a cage, where he belongs, deserves to be for the rest of his life, and SUZANNE receives the justice she so rightfully deserves.

All of the above IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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  • #583
Besides the fact I don’t think BM will ever confess due to his entitlement, arrogance and huge ego, *IF* dismemberment or desecration of SM’s body in any way, shape, or form is involved, IMO, the odds of him confessing/pleaing to lesser charge/s go down significantly.
IMO, if BM dismembered/desecrated SM body, he won’t confess, cop a plea, trying to go with an assisted suicide, accident/self defense and panicked because it’s one thing to try and claim any of those scenarios happened and moved/concealed the body, quite another thing entirely to try and explain why you also chose to callously, heinously dismember/desecrate your loved one’s body. That is a whole other level of evil and a stretch to say the least for anyone to believe was ‘necessary’ in an assisted suicide, accident, or self defense scenario. Not to mention in a confession or plea deal using any of these scenarios are going to require BM to give up where he hid the body/remains and imo, he would never open up this can of worms so to speak if she’s buried in pieces or god forbid, there’s nothing left of her at all. (I hate the thought, even typing it is hard).
IMO, none of those scenarios make any sense, are not believable if he gruesomely disrespected her deceased body in any such way after she perished.
To be clear, not saying he did desecrate/dismember SM, obviously we don’t know if he went to such extremes. I personally don’t think he had enough time to accomplish anything beyond moving and concealing her body, but considering his skills and access to various and copious amount of tools, it’s not 100% completely out of question imo. Let’s just say, however improbable it seems, I won’t be shocked to learn if he did do something even more extreme/horrific.
IMO, *most* people in a sudden accident or self defense scenario don’t go to extreme efforts to move/conceal body, never mind dismember or totally obliterate their loved one’s body. IMO, *most* would be so distraught at what transpired/what they did, they’d call 911 hoping there’s a chance to save their loved one’s life, and worry about explaining later, but I digress.

In lieu of a confession/plea, and because I believe LE/DA have strong, damning evidence against BM, my feeling/guess is that he and his defense team are going to try and put on a discredit LE type of defense, that BM is a victim of LE incompetence, they targeted BM, planted evidence, had tunnel vision etc., etc. try to discredit prosecution witnesses, and posit that SODDI (some other dude did it), hoping to sway the minimum of one juror to their side.
Having said all that, I might feel less confident if it had just been small town local LE investigating, but with the CBI and FBI involved in this investigation since virtually moment one and all their vast experience, resources available and utilized, I say good luck to BM and his team trying to discredit LE if that’s the way they do decide to go. This is by no means CBII and FBI’s first rodeo and am confident especially considering it’s a no body case, that LE, CBI/FBI crossed every “t”, dotted every “i”, ensured that interviews and every tip and lead were followed up on, legally and effectively secured multiple probable cause search warrants, checked and ruled every other angle/potential suspect out, collected and handled every piece of evidence with care, thoroughly scrutinized, analyzed, and tested it for veracity etc., to the exclusion of any other person being responsible for eliminating SM from this earth, which is why the DA was able and confident in filing the charges she filed against BM. And I believe that at the end of potential future trial, jurors will be able to see through all the defense grandstanding and smoke and mirrors, that LE/DA, evidence, and truth will prevail- BM will be convicted on all charges and sent back to a cage, where he belongs and deserves to be for the rest of his life, and SUZANNE receives the justice she so rightfully deserves.

All of the above IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
With chlorine factored into what looks like at least two locations.......I would have to think that SM's body was injured to the extent necessary that blood needed to be cleaned up. And two locations suggests that either she was at both locations at one point...or, that Barry was at both locations and had her DNA on his person, tools, etc...
 
  • #584
GRAPHIC!!!!!!


There doesn't need to be a ton of blood... there are some parts of the body that if chunks of them were found outside the body, it would highly indicate that without medical treatment, there is no way the person could live. I'm sure there are other things that could point to this, but off the top of my head, brain matter or cerebrospinal fluid are high on my list of things that could be found to indicate the person is most probably deceased if nowhere can be found that treatment was received... jmo
Yes, that's what I meant when I said a partial tooth or a piece of bone would be an example. There's no way a small piece of someone's skull could be apart from their body unless they were dead. Imo
 
  • #585
IMO, besides the fact I don’t think BM will ever confess due to his entitlement, arrogance and huge ego, *IF* dismemberment or desecration of SM’s body in any way, shape, or form is involved, the odds of him confessing/pleaing to lesser charge(s) go down significantly.
IMO, if BM dismembered/desecrated SM body, he won’t confess, cop a plea, trying to go with an assisted suicide, accident/self defense and panicked because it’s one thing to try and claim any of those scenarios happened and moved/concealed the body, quite another thing entirely to try and explain why you also chose to callously, heinously dismember/desecrate your loved one’s body. That is a whole other level of evil and a stretch to say the least for anyone to believe was ‘necessary’ in an assisted suicide, accident, or self defense scenario. Not to mention in a confession or plea deal using any of these scenarios are going to require BM to give up where he hid the body/remains and imo, he would never open up this can of worms so to speak if she’s buried in pieces or god forbid, there’s nothing left of her at all. (I hate the thought, even typing it is hard).
IMO, none of those scenarios make any sense, are not believable if he gruesomely disrespected her deceased body in any such way after she perished.
To be clear, not saying he did desecrate/dismember SM, obviously we don’t know if he went to such extremes. I personally don’t think he had enough time to accomplish anything beyond moving and concealing her body, but considering his skills and access to various and copious amount of tools, it’s not 100% completely out of question imo. Let’s just say, however improbable it might seem,
I won’t be shocked to learn if he did do something even more extreme/horrific.
IMO, *most* people in a sudden accident or self defense scenario don’t go to extreme efforts to move/conceal body, never mind dismember or totally obliterate their loved one’s body. IMO, *most* would be so distraught at what transpired/what they did, they’d call 911 hoping there’s a chance to save their loved one’s life, and worry about explaining later, but I digress.

In lieu of a confession/plea, and because I believe LE/DA have strong, damning evidence against BM, my feeling/guess is that he and his defense team are going to try and put on a discredit LE type of defense, that BM is a victim of LE incompetence, they targeted BM, planted evidence, had tunnel vision etc., etc. try to discredit prosecution witnesses, and posit that SODDI (some other dude did it), hoping to sway the minimum of one juror to their side.
Having said all that, I might feel less confident if it had just been small town local LE investigating, but with the CBI and FBI involved in this investigation since virtually moment one and all their vast experience, resources available and utilized, I say good luck to BM and his team trying to discredit LE if that’s the way they do decide to go. This is by no means CBII and FBI’s first rodeo and am confident especially considering it’s a no body case, that LE, CBI/FBI crossed every “t”, dotted every “i”, ensured that interviews and every tip and lead were followed up on, legally and effectively secured multiple probable cause search warrants, checked and ruled every other angle/potential suspect out, collected and handled every piece of evidence with care, thoroughly scrutinized, analyzed, and tested it for veracity etc., to the exclusion of any other person being responsible for eliminating SM from this earth, which is why the DA was able and confident in filing the charges she filed against BM. And I believe that at the end of potential future trial, jurors will be able to see through all the defense grandstanding and smoke and mirrors, that LE/DA, evidence, and truth will prevail- BM will be convicted on all charges and sent back to a cage, where he belongs, deserves to be for the rest of his life, and SUZANNE receives the justice she so rightfully deserves.

All of the above IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
LE was at the Morphew home for many days...can't recall the exact number...but they logged a substantial number of hours collecting evidence while barring BM from his property. They wouldn't have prohibited him to the extent they did if he wasn't Suspect #1 right out of the gate.
 
  • #586
IMO, besides the fact I don’t think BM will ever confess due to his entitlement, arrogance and huge ego, *IF* dismemberment or desecration of SM’s body in any way, shape, or form is involved, the odds of him confessing/pleaing to lesser charge(s) go down significantly.
IMO, if BM dismembered/desecrated SM body, he won’t confess, cop a plea, trying to go with an assisted suicide, accident/self defense and panicked because it’s one thing to try and claim any of those scenarios happened and moved/concealed the body, quite another thing entirely to try and explain why you also chose to callously, heinously dismember/desecrate your loved one’s body. That is a whole other level of evil and a stretch to say the least for anyone to believe was ‘necessary’ in an assisted suicide, accident, or self defense scenario. Not to mention in a confession or plea deal using any of these scenarios are going to require BM to give up where he hid the body/remains and imo, he would never open up this can of worms so to speak if she’s buried in pieces or god forbid, there’s nothing left of her at all. (I hate the thought, even typing it is hard).
IMO, none of those scenarios make any sense, are not believable if he gruesomely disrespected her deceased body in any such way after she perished.
To be clear, not saying he did desecrate/dismember SM, obviously we don’t know if he went to such extremes. I personally don’t think he had enough time to accomplish anything beyond moving and concealing her body, but considering his skills and access to various and copious amount of tools, it’s not 100% completely out of question imo. Let’s just say, however improbable it might seem,
I won’t be shocked to learn if he did do something even more extreme/horrific.
IMO, *most* people in a sudden accident or self defense scenario don’t go to extreme efforts to move/conceal body, never mind dismember or totally obliterate their loved one’s body. IMO, *most* would be so distraught at what transpired/what they did, they’d call 911 hoping there’s a chance to save their loved one’s life, and worry about explaining later, but I digress.

In lieu of a confession/plea, and because I believe LE/DA have strong, damning evidence against BM, my feeling/guess is that he and his defense team are going to try and put on a discredit LE type of defense, that BM is a victim of LE incompetence, they targeted BM, planted evidence, had tunnel vision etc., etc. try to discredit prosecution witnesses, and posit that SODDI (some other dude did it), hoping to sway the minimum of one juror to their side.
Having said all that, I might feel less confident if it had just been small town local LE investigating, but with the CBI and FBI involved in this investigation since virtually moment one and all their vast experience, resources available and utilized, I say good luck to BM and his team trying to discredit LE if that’s the way they do decide to go. This is by no means CBII and FBI’s first rodeo and am confident especially considering it’s a no body case, that LE, CBI/FBI crossed every “t”, dotted every “i”, ensured that interviews and every tip and lead were followed up on, legally and effectively secured multiple probable cause search warrants, checked and ruled every other angle/potential suspect out, collected and handled every piece of evidence with care, thoroughly scrutinized, analyzed, and tested it for veracity etc., to the exclusion of any other person being responsible for eliminating SM from this earth, which is why the DA was able and confident in filing the charges she filed against BM. And I believe that at the end of potential future trial, jurors will be able to see through all the defense grandstanding and smoke and mirrors, that LE/DA, evidence, and truth will prevail- BM will be convicted on all charges and sent back to a cage, where he belongs, deserves to be for the rest of his life, and SUZANNE receives the justice she so rightfully deserves.

All of the above IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
Like you, I don’t believe Barry will confess or plea. If he had a plan to take a plea deal, then he wouldn’t have needed to hire such expensive attorneys.
 
  • #587
Like you, I don’t believe Barry will confess or plea. If he had a plan to take a plea deal, then he wouldn’t have needed to hire such expensive attorneys.
Like you, I don’t believe Barry will confess or plea. If he had a plan to take a plea deal, then he wouldn’t have needed to hire such expensive attorneys.
Barry is in quite the fix here. Those two lawyers are going to burn through his money likely faster than he can imagine. <modsnip>
 
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  • #588
Barry’s lack of participation in anything spoke volumes. He didn’t stand with LE at early press conferences. He did not thank anyone who was out there trying to find his wife. He didn’t try to get the word out himself. He did not sit down with a news source and talk about his lovely wife in the hopes that it would make a difference. He didn’t call 911. He didn’t call Suzanne’s family, except to ask for legal papers to be signed to benefit himself. Barry was still just living his life with one less person in it.
 
  • #589
Yes, I agree Suzanne was trying to get back to the loving relationship she once had with Barry, and the notes were very special. Could it be he was feeling some guilt when he brought them out? But, I wonder when all of that stopped.

The turning point for me was the text between MM and Suzanne and I don't think she was having an affair, either. Maybe a man friend she met in an Al-Anon meeting or a domestic violence meeting who was willing to help her escape Barry.

I believe the text shows something very dark in Suzanne's marriage to Barry. I guess it would, he murdered her the very next day.

JMO
I totally agree with you about Suzanne finding / realizing something very dark about him. How scary after being married for so long (about the same as me - I've been with my husband since I was 20 and we've been married for 26 years next Thurs, together for 30.) This has made me think of what I'd do if I found out something shockingly dark about him that I either didn't want to believe could be true. How devastating that would be. And the line I bolded truly says it all.
 
  • #590
I am quite certain any and all individuals who were contacted from SM facebook account were interviewed by the FBI. After all, these were all friends of AM....and they would corroborate Andy's version of events....that those contacts were out of the blue and not sent by SM. More bad news for BM. He totally had access to her facebook account...and likely monitored it on a regular basis. He likely had a tracker on her cell phone as well.

My DH and I share a phone plan and an Apple account. Almost everyone I know does the same thing (we keep separate calendars, but for most things we calendar, we use a joint calendar). I can use icloud.com to locate his phone any time I like, and he can do the same for me. This makes it easier to get dinner timed just right. :)

I have no doubt that Barry kept close tabs on Suzanne (it may have been really overbearing - I'd love to know more). It's also possible she had discovered how to use these same tools to keep better tabs on her husband.

I think digital evidence is going to be crucial in this case. Barry's truck had a GPS chip on the truck's main control board - it could not be disabled at the dashboard and it would have been a major project to try and remove it from the control board. Obviously, none of the stops he made on May 8-12 helped find Suzanne. He would have also had that one older SUV that likely had no GPS. So it's possible his truck looks like it was stationary early on Sunday morning, just as Barry claims. I believe he also had an eATV (a WSer pointed out to me that an ATV is visible in the truck bed of a truck during the "search" that Barry and his friends supposedly organized, the same search where Barry ends up lying on the ground).

GPS does not require cellular.

Barry's movements on Sunday likely show him driving directly to the Holiday Inn Express, although if MG is to be believed, he may also have detoured past her house at around 4 am.

Suzanne can be seen wearing an apple watch in one of their vacation photos. If she was still using that watch, it would have been recording movement data (including heart rate). In another recent murder case, the apple watch data provided time of death...

That apple watch may be a key piece of evidence (it uploads its data into the cloud when it reconnects either with the paired phone or wifi that's linked to the internet). Whatever happened to her phone and her watch is crucial, in any case. Surely the watch and the phone had to disappear along with Suzanne - it would be very strange for her to leave both of them at home on her "bike ride." Of course, I suppose Barry could have staged things so that those were left on her night stand - but if Suzanne didn't put her watch on, Sunday morning, that's really peculiar (especially for a woman with a wedding to attend and a dinner with daughters to organize).
 
  • #591
LE was at the Morphew home for many days...can't recall the exact number...but they logged a substantial number of hours collecting evidence while barring BM from his property. They wouldn't have prohibited him to the extent they did if he wasn't Suspect #1 right out of the gate.

They were there for 11 days. They took his truck and his cell phone. He had to use someone else's phone. I don't have a link, sorry.

JMO
 
  • #592
I totally agree with you about Suzanne finding / realizing something very dark about him. How scary after being married for so long (about the same as me - I've been with my husband since I was 20 and we've been married for 26 years next Thurs, together for 30.) This has made me think of what I'd do if I found out something shockingly dark about him that I either didn't want to believe could be true. How devastating that would be. And the line I bolded truly says it all.

JMO, but I think there could have been a lot of fighting between them going on. I've tried to imagine just why he'd kill the 'love of his life'. Something went wrong. I'm speculating here, but there could have been another woman involved. I get the feeling he wanted everything and the only way he would be able to get it is if Suzanne was gone. So being the selfish coward he is, he made it happen. I bet he never in a million years thought he'd end up in a cement cage.

JMO
 
  • #593
I totally agree with you about Suzanne finding / realizing something very dark about him. How scary after being married for so long (about the same as me - I've been with my husband since I was 20 and we've been married for 26 years next Thurs, together for 30.) This has made me think of what I'd do if I found out something shockingly dark about him that I either didn't want to believe could be true. How devastating that would be. And the line I bolded truly says it all.

Congratulations on your 26th wedding anniversary!
 
  • #594
My DH and I share a phone plan and an Apple account. Almost everyone I know does the same thing (we keep separate calendars, but for most things we calendar, we use a joint calendar). I can use icloud.com to locate his phone any time I like, and he can do the same for me. This makes it easier to get dinner timed just right. :)

I have no doubt that Barry kept close tabs on Suzanne (it may have been really overbearing - I'd love to know more). It's also possible she had discovered how to use these same tools to keep better tabs on her husband.

I think digital evidence is going to be crucial in this case. Barry's truck had a GPS chip on the truck's main control board - it could not be disabled at the dashboard and it would have been a major project to try and remove it from the control board. Obviously, none of the stops he made on May 8-12 helped find Suzanne. He would have also had that one older SUV that likely had no GPS. So it's possible his truck looks like it was stationary early on Sunday morning, just as Barry claims. I believe he also had an eATV (a WSer pointed out to me that an ATV is visible in the truck bed of a truck during the "search" that Barry and his friends supposedly organized, the same search where Barry ends up lying on the ground).

GPS does not require cellular.

Barry's movements on Sunday likely show him driving directly to the Holiday Inn Express, although if MG is to be believed, he may also have detoured past her house at around 4 am.

Suzanne can be seen wearing an apple watch in one of their vacation photos. If she was still using that watch, it would have been recording movement data (including heart rate). In another recent murder case, the apple watch data provided time of death...

That apple watch may be a key piece of evidence (it uploads its data into the cloud when it reconnects either with the paired phone or wifi that's linked to the internet). Whatever happened to her phone and her watch is crucial, in any case. Surely the watch and the phone had to disappear along with Suzanne - it would be very strange for her to leave both of them at home on her "bike ride." Of course, I suppose Barry could have staged things so that those were left on her night stand - but if Suzanne didn't put her watch on, Sunday morning, that's really peculiar (especially for a woman with a wedding to attend and a dinner with daughters to organize).
Absolutely, especial the phone. Daughter s 10 or more hours away?
Monm woykd be stock in phone probably checking daughters' FMIPs too

If thete was for them to come home on Sunday afternoon for MD it would involve leaving Idaho in the very early morning, 5am at the latest.
Wouldn't they call as soon as they knew they would not be arriving in time for MD, whether night before or early morning?
 
  • #595
Congratulations on your 26th wedding anniversary!
Awww...thank you so much! I've got myself a good (I think!)
 
  • #596
Absolutely, especial the phone. Daughter s 10 or more hours away?
Monm woykd be stock in phone probably checking daughters' FMIPs too

If thete was for them to come home on Sunday afternoon for MD it would involve leaving Idaho in the very early morning, 5am at the latest.
Wouldn't they call as soon as they knew they would not be arriving in time for MD, whether night before or early morning?


I would be very surprised if two youngsters would plan to leave at 5 am!!

Or perhaps those were their plans, but they over slept.
 
  • #597
A common example of the distinction between direct and circumstantial evidence involves a person who comes into a building, when it may be raining. If the person declares, "It's raining outside", that statement is direct evidence that it is raining. If the person is carrying a wet umbrella, and he is wearing a wet rain coat, those observations are circumstantial evidence that it is raining outside."

interesting. In this example, I would give more weight to circumstantial evidence over direct. The person wandering into building could be lying. If they walked in and said “the avengers are outside” is that direct evidence too? I am not in any way affiliated with the judicial system, that just seems more like testimony - which maybe is a form of direct evidence?

Direct evidence seems more like a person standing in the rain and saying it is raining. Or video of the same. If you walk into my house and tell me it’s raining, but your clothes are not wet, you don’t have an umbrella, and the sun is shining… the more I look at the example the more I see what is intended. But No wonder people get hung up in juries. I’ll bet prosecutors love to blur that line even more.

maybe I’m just thinking of the phrase “don’t piss on me and tell me it’s raining”

could you give an example with blood or something more analogous to crime?
 
  • #598
Like you, I don’t believe Barry will confess or plea. If he had a plan to take a plea deal, then he wouldn’t have needed to hire such expensive attorneys.

It can be the massively expensive attorneys that strike the best plea deals (for their client).

Borce Ristevski - who had a massively expensive attorney - struck a plea deal that was so good that the DPP appealed his sentence (9 years for manslaughter) and got it increased a bit ... not enough but it is slightly better.

Borce Ristevski's 'deceit' and apparent lack of remorse over killing his wife noted as judges increase sentence
 
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I’m not convinced either. I can’t imagine Suzanne picking a house that is so far beyond their budget they have to borrow $100,000+ from friends and family to buy it, especially a family member that is elderly and sick. She seems the practical one, it just doesn’t ring true. Recklessly going beyond their means is Barry’s MO.
I don’t think it is fair to guess anything about people based on social media. It is entirely possible Suzanne picked the house. Most of us don’t know “them.”
 
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