Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #63 *ARREST*

[OCanada]

I wonder whether the girls' camping trip was orchestrated by BM and he told them he and SM needed time alone to address relationship issues.

 

[Whitneyh]

I saw the picture of the blue bike and wondered the same thing, was it Suzanne's? So far, we only have CM's word
Barry bought another bike for parts and he said it was pink. I believe this to be true, I believe CM.

JMO

Did barry have his own bike? I always suspected that he bought that bike so he could say she died accidentally he specifically told MG he was going to make the wife happy by hiking or biking but it's never been clear if that's something they did together or if it was just her hobby.

 

[Deleted member 222031]

There is a saying: Justice delayed is justice denied.

IMO, the now over 7-day delay by Judge Murphy in not responding publicly to or ruling on the Media Consortium response is justice denied to the public, which Rule 55.1 gives a presumptive right of access to the AA.

Everything in the judge's order denies that right.

The media's response makes clear, especially, that redaction for release cannot be denied due to it being a hardship, as the judge states.

A delayed response by the judge means the public will likely be denied its presumptive right until at least the end of August.

I would like it to be released but a timely response to the media's concerns about the legality of withholding the AA, even if a denial, is not too much to ask. JMHO

 

[Love Never Fails]

I wonder whether the girls' camping trip was orchestrated by BM and he told them he and SM needed time alone to address relationship issues.

If he did, that should be a huge red flag to them. Surely by now, they are replaying in their minds the many conversations they have had with their dad in the past year.

 

[Error505]

MG would have met with LE Tuesday, when she returned from Broomfield, or later. CBI and FBI became involved a few days after Suzanne went missing. By Wednesday, 5/13.

Agree, I think MG met with CBI Wednesday. I think CBI was anxious to talk to BM’s workers. JP also retrieved the piece of mail from the trash and turned it over to investigators. I’m sure JP told LE what he told Daily Mail and LS, the room reeked of chlorine and he felt like he was part of an “alibi” setup by BM. MOO

 

[Love Never Fails]

There is a saying: Justice delayed is justice denied.

IMO, the now over 7-day delay by Judge Murphy in not responding publicly to or ruling on the Media Consortium response is justice denied to the public, which Rule 55.1 gives a presumptive right of access to the AA.

Everything in the judge's order denies that right.

The media's response makes clear, especially, that redaction for release cannot be denied due to it being a hardship, as the judge states.

A delayed response by the judge means the public will likely be denied its presumptive right until at least the end of August.

I would like it to be released but a timely response to the media's concerns about the legality of withholding the AA, even if a denial, is not too much to ask. JMHO

You are being rational. What I have seen in Colorado cases is the opposite. Colorado judges seem to like things sealed tight until trial and even then, they don’t like trials televised.

 

[SouthAussie]

Did barry have his own bike? I always suspected that he bought that bike so he could say she died accidentally he specifically told MG he was going to make the wife happy by hiking or biking but it's never been clear if that's something they did together or if it was just her hobby.

I think your thought holds a lot of credence. Buy a bike, preempt the 'accident' by telling a worker that you are going to go hiking or biking with your wife, then go 'biking' with Suzanne when she accidently rides over an edge of a deep gully and hits her head on a rock.

If that was the initial plan, I wonder what changed it? "I'm not feeling so well today, I don't think I can ride" "I need to catch up with my bff about the wedding, maybe later" ....... or maybe he had 2nd thoughts and was afraid of being witnessed creating the 'accident', or realised he couldn't carry off advising LE of the mishap and the grief he would need to display.

 

[Whitneyh]

I saw the picture of the blue bike and wondered the same thing, was it Suzanne's? So far, we only have CM's word
Barry bought another bike for parts and he said it was pink. I believe this to be true, I believe CM.

JMO

Did barry have his own bike? I always suspected that he bought that bike so he could say she died accidentally he specifically told MG he was going to make the wife happy by hiking or biking but it's never been clear if that's something they did together or if it was just her hobby.

I think your thought holds a lot of credence. Buy a bike, preempt the 'accident' by telling a worker that you are going to go hiking or biking with your wife, then go 'biking' with Suzanne when she accidently rides over an edge of a deep gully and hits her head on a rock.

If that was the initial plan, I wonder what changed it? "I'm not feeling so well today, I don't think I can ride" "I need to catch up with my bff about the wedding, maybe later" ....... or maybe he had 2nd thoughts and was afraid of being witnessed creating the 'accident', or realised he couldn't carry off advising LE of the mishap and the grief he would need to display.

I think she told him she wasn't happy in the marriage possibly wanted a divorce. BM told MG he's gotta make the wife happy go biking or hiking which is interesting if that's not something they usually do together because I think he was going to say an accident happened on their bike ride but something changed that plan I think she was killed outside before he went to town on Saturday JMO

 

[Deleted member 222031]

You are being rational. What I have seen in Colorado cases is the opposite. Colorado judges seem to like things sealed tight until trial and even then, they don’t like trials televised.

Correct. That is why the push to create Rule 55.1, which started several years ago, was instigated in large part by the Colorado Freedom of Information Coalition and their attorney Steve Zansberg, on behalf of the media, defending the public's presumptive right to know why an arrest was made.

Now the weight of a decision to release is supposed to be strongly in favor of release rather than the opposite position CO courts have followed, which is to withhold unless forced to release. In fact, so much case info has been withheld in the past that even knowing an AA was issued was beyond discovery unless a case was high profile.

It will take a while for judges to reorder their thinking to place the heaviest weight on release by not claiming there is no other way to protect witnesses, victims, the rights of the accused, etc.

If you read the judge's order and the media response, you will see clearly that this judge did not really struggle with the question of weight appropriate under Rule 55.1. He defaulted to the tradition of CO courts to withhold as a matter of precedent, i.e., "that is how we've always done it" with all of his justifications for sealing.

Of course, protecting victims and witnesses is important. There are less restrictive means than withholding an AA to provide those protections, such as redaction of info in the AA.

News organizations ask judge to reconsider his decision to seal Barry Morphew arrest affidavit | Colorado Freedom of Information Coalition

 

[Love Never Fails]

Correct. That is why the push to create Rule 55.1, which started several years ago, was instigated in large part by the Colorado Freedom of Information Coalition and their attorney Steve Zansberg, on behalf of the media, defending the public's presumptive right to know why an arrest was made.

Now the weight of a decision to release is supposed to be strongly in favor of release rather than the opposite position CO courts have followed, which is to withhold unless forced to release. In fact, so much case info has been withheld in the past that even knowing an AA was issued was beyond discovery unless a case was high profile.

It will take a while for judges to reorder their thinking to place the heaviest weight on release by not claiming there is no other way to protect witnesses, victims, the rights of the accused, etc.

If you read the judge's order and the media response, you will see clearly that this judge did not really struggle with the question of weight appropriate under Rule 55.1. He defaulted to the tradition of CO courts to withhold as a matter of precedent, i.e., "that is how we've always done it" with all of his justifications for sealing.

Of course, protecting victims and witnesses is important. There are less restrictive means than withholding an AA to provide those protections, such as redaction of info in the AA.

News organizations ask judge to reconsider his decision to seal Barry Morphew arrest affidavit | Colorado Freedom of Information Coalition

Thanks and I agree. I really don’t understand the thinking of the judge or trying to “protect” anyone a year after the crime. I’ve said it over and over again that I really like the sunshine laws in Florida. It’s important that once the investigation has been completed and a person is charged, all information be made available. This doesn’t take away from their rights to a fair trial. And juries will make up their own minds.

 

[TKG]

I think your thought holds a lot of credence. Buy a bike, preempt the 'accident' by telling a worker that you are going to go hiking or biking with your wife, then go 'biking' with Suzanne when she accidently rides over an edge of a deep gully and hits her head on a rock.

If that was the initial plan, I wonder what changed it? "I'm not feeling so well today, I don't think I can ride" "I need to catch up with my bff about the wedding, maybe later" ....... or maybe he had 2nd thoughts and was afraid of being witnessed creating the 'accident', or realised he couldn't carry off advising LE of the mishap and the grief he would need to display.

The assertion made by CM and MK on PE was that an extra "pink" bike was purchased from Scot for parts. This would mean he would then be riding said pink bike, not her bike.

No way BM would ride a pink parts bike.

Conversely, if he had his own bike we are assuming the neighbor JR knew which bike belonged to SM & BM. That's a long shot.

Therefore, IMO this is not what happened.

 

[al66pine]

Loan Fraud? Whoa Nelly.

BM could be looking at more serious charges than “Mail fraud”.....DA Stanley, stack those charges on! Pile ‘em up!
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@Error505 sbm bbm
Even tho many of us want to see BM charged w every possible crime, plus parking tickets , spitting in the sidewalk , and overdue library books , I believe any PPP loan-related loan charges are likely a matter for a fed., not state prosecution. (BTW I also think you & others are aware of this, but I wanted to say Whoa Nelly.)

Thinking DA Stanley's dance card w CO. state charges filed against BM is full already. my2ct.

 

[Whitneyh]

The assertion made by CM and MK on PE was that an extra "pink" bike was purchased from Scot for parts. This would mean he would then be riding said pink bike, not her bike.

No way BM would ride a pink parts bike.

Conversely, if he had his own bike we are assuming the neighbor JR knew which bike belonged to SM & BM. That's a long shot.

Therefore, IMO this is not what happened.

I was wondering if he had his own bike or if they went riding together but it seems he did not. I'm saying I think that may have been his original plan. I do not think she ever went on a bike ride period because people don't kidnap you and let you take off your helmet off.

 

[TKG]

I was wondering if he had his own bike or if they went riding together but it seems he did not.

I don't know for a fact whether he did or did not. I am only basing this on the facts reported via MSM.

 

[marylamby]

Loan Fraud? Whoa Nelly.
@Error505 sbm bbm
Even tho many of us want to see BM charged w every possible crime, plus parking tickets , spitting in the sidewalk , and overdue library books , I believe any PPP loan-related loan charges are likely a matter for a fed., not state prosecution. (BTW I also think you & others are aware of this, but I wanted to say Whoa Nelly.)

Thinking DA Stanley's dance card w CO. state charges filed against BM is full already. my2ct.

I think we're all aware that would be a federal case. There's no reason why federal and state charges can't be made simultaneously, is there?

 

[MsBetsy]

No, it hasn't been confirmed, you're right. It was CM who alluded to the fact that Barry bought another bike and it would be for parts.

Oh, I thought you were asking if he actually 'did' buy a bike. I thought the PE guys said something about the bike being pink. I wonder if the girls had bikes and if they were in the garage also. I assume Barry had a bike and it probably wasn't pink.

 

[GordianKnot]

Correct. That is why the push to create Rule 55.1, which started several years ago, was instigated in large part by the Colorado Freedom of Information Coalition and their attorney Steve Zansberg, on behalf of the media, defending the public's presumptive right to know why an arrest was made.

Now the weight of a decision to release is supposed to be strongly in favor of release rather than the opposite position CO courts have followed, which is to withhold unless forced to release. In fact, so much case info has been withheld in the past that even knowing an AA was issued was beyond discovery unless a case was high profile.

It will take a while for judges to reorder their thinking to place the heaviest weight on release by not claiming there is no other way to protect witnesses, victims, the rights of the accused, etc.

If you read the judge's order and the media response, you will see clearly that this judge did not really struggle with the question of weight appropriate under Rule 55.1. He defaulted to the tradition of CO courts to withhold as a matter of precedent, i.e., "that is how we've always done it" with all of his justifications for sealing.

Of course, protecting victims and witnesses is important. There are less restrictive means than withholding an AA to provide those protections, such as redaction of info in the AA.

News organizations ask judge to reconsider his decision to seal Barry Morphew arrest affidavit | Colorado Freedom of Information Coalition

BBM:

Exactly, and if release of the AA posed any actual threat to victims or witnesses in this case, I'm confident the DA's office would have raised vigorous objections to its release.

The fact that the DA doesn't have any objection to the AA being released should have settled that point.

In my view, the judge citing that as a reason for his decision is a straw man argument, at best.

JMO.

 

[jakat]

And I fully expect it to stay that way until the preliminary.

Bond isn’t addressed until after the preliminary hearing. In the Frazee case it was a one day affair, and at the conclusion the judge found that the prosecution met its burden, and ordered Frazee held without bond.

I think the same will occur here.

There isn't any chance of him bonding out, is there? He needs to stay right where he is forever, in a cage.

 

[jakat]

Oh, I thought you were asking if he actually 'did' buy a bike. I thought the PE guys said something about the bike being pink. I wonder if the girls had bikes and if they were in the garage also. I assume Barry had a bike and it probably wasn't pink.

Wonder why he bought a pink bike anyway? I hope something comes out in the trial about the bikes.

 

[Error505]

Loan Fraud? Whoa Nelly.
@Error505 sbm bbm
Even tho many of us want to see BM charged w every possible crime, plus parking tickets , spitting in the sidewalk , and overdue library books , I believe any PPP loan-related loan charges are likely a matter for a fed., not state prosecution. (BTW I also think you & others are aware of this, but I wanted to say Whoa Nelly.)

Thinking DA Stanley's dance card w CO. state charges filed against BM is full already. my2ct.

Yes, PPP loan charges would be from the feds!
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