Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #63 *ARREST*

[Error505]

Is this the "5" that PE was teasing about??

I don’t think it is. I think the 5 PE was talking about referenced trees iirc. There have been a lot of “5’s” come up in this case. MOO

 

[Boxer]

The voter fraud charge is not tied to the murder charge at all.

It was filed as a completely separate charge.

That charge the DA filed r/t voter fraud has nothing to do with trying to negotiate a plea.

It's simply about holding Barry accountable for all of the crimes he's committed.

JMO.

I just mean holding up the release of the AA until a preliminary hearing is done for the voter fraud charge. Its the last hearing in the series, and AA will be released two weeks after it.

 

[Boxer]

BM not getting bail seems like a good sign the AA is strong.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I don’t think it is. I think the 5 PE was talking about referenced trees iirc. There have been a lot of “5’s” come up in this case. MOO

Back in April my grand daughter turned 5. With COVID lockdowns we couldn't really do much, so it was a beautiful day, and her and I went for a walk down her street. For a little fun game, I had her look at every house number and every license plate number on the cars on the street, looking for the number 5, because she's 5, and 5 is cool.

We counted loads of 5's. According to her, when we got back to her house, she told her mommy and daddy there are "thousands of 5's on our street!"

The moral of the story is... if you're looking for it, you're going to see it everywhere. The PE guys kind of made a big deal out of "5" so, many members here have seen them all over the case. I'm inclined to believe they probably don't mean a thing.

jmo

 

[Trebor5591]

I just mean holding up the release of the AA until a preliminary hearing is done for the voter fraud charge. Its the last hearing in the series, and AA will be released two weeks after it.

I question how strong a case LE has, if they are also filing a voter fraud charge. To me, that smacks of desperation, and the fear that he just might beat the murder charges. Think about it: If the murder charges are solid, why spend additional resources on a voter fraud charge? Unless the motivation for such is political.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I question how strong a case LE has, if they are also filing a voter fraud charge. To me, that smacks of desperation, and the fear that he just might beat the murder charges. Think about it: If the murder charges are solid, why spend additional resources on a voter fraud charge? Unless the motivation for such is political.

Both I suspect. They piled on everything they came across I think to increase the potential sentence length and things they could get to "stick" although most sentences can go concurrently so that may not be an accurate thought. According to the Washington Post there are fewer than 2 dozen charged cases of voter fraud in the country or about 1 for every 10 million votes. I still think that outcome will be either time served or probation and a fine if it isn't dismissed. I think the same thing will happen with the gun charge...but it's just me guessing. All of it's keeping his lawyers busy for sure. They also added on the "enhanced" charges but I haven't found how that works with Felony 1 in Colorado. Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...zen-charged-cases-voter-fraud-since-election/

 

[10ofRods]

I question how strong a case LE has, if they are also filing a voter fraud charge. To me, that smacks of desperation, and the fear that he just might beat the murder charges. Think about it: If the murder charges are solid, why spend additional resources on a voter fraud charge? Unless the motivation for such is political.

You know what? If a person is talking to the FBI and they admit to a crime as Barry did, it's super unlikely the FBI is just going to give a pass. The FBI will spend very little "resources" on this, as they have Barry's admission of guilt (no doubt recorded). They identified themselves as FBI and Barry admitted to signing the form.

It was investigated as a matter of course by the County Clerk of Voting (Chaffee County) because it wasn't signed by the voting party (Suzanne). The investigator immediately noticed the issue, because it was Suzanne. Do you really think that a man who tried to forge proof of life for his missing/murdered wife should just get to do that without questioning?

Here's my tip: if you've committed voter fraud and FBI agents want to ask you how your missing wife managed to vote, I suggest you call your lawyer - because admitting guilt is going to get a charge. It's my understanding that all LE agencies are supposed to file charges when they have knowledge of a crime.

Are you suggesting that any further "minor" crimes Barry committed during the past couple of years should just be ignored?

If you've read the Judge's order, you'd know that the general impression is that the State has a very good case indeed. That's why the AA is sealed.

 

[Error505]

Back in April my grand daughter turned 5. With COVID lockdowns we couldn't really do much, so it was a beautiful day, and her and I went for a walk down her street. For a little fun game, I had her look at every house number and every license plate number on the cars on the street, looking for the number 5, because she's 5, and 5 is cool.

We counted loads of 5's. According to her, when we got back to her house, she told her mommy and daddy there are "thousands of 5's on our street!"

The moral of the story is... if you're looking for it, you're going to see it everywhere. The PE guys kind of made a big deal out of "5" so, many members here have seen them all over the case. I'm inclined to believe they probably don't mean a thing.

jmo

Cute story. Thx

 

[Momofthreeboys]

You know what? If a person is talking to the FBI and they admit to a crime as Barry did, it's super unlikely the FBI is just going to give a pass. The FBI will spend very little "resources" on this, as they have Barry's admission of guilt (no doubt recorded). They identified themselves as FBI and Barry admitted to signing the form.

It was investigated as a matter of course by the County Clerk of Voting (Chaffee County) because it wasn't signed by the voting party (Suzanne). The investigator immediately noticed the issue, because it was Suzanne. Do you really think that a man who tried to forge proof of life for his missing/murdered wife should just get to do that without questioning?

Here's my tip: if you've committed voter fraud and FBI agents want to ask you how your missing wife managed to vote, I suggest you call your lawyer - because admitting guilt is going to get a charge. It's my understanding that all LE agencies are supposed to file charges when they have knowledge of a crime.

Are you suggesting that any further "minor" crimes Barry committed during the past couple of years should just be ignored?

If you've read the Judge's order, you'd know that the general impression is that the State has a very good case indeed. That's why the AA is sealed.

I don't think we know it's a "very good case". It was enough to get an arrest warrant signed which is step one. I think we can all agree the voter fraud and the unlicensed short barrel are probably pretty factual open and shut type stuff and it's it may simply come down to which end of the charging range it goes and how high the fine. Only the voter fraud is a separate case. We don't know if the unlicensed in Colorado short gun is tied to the murder or was an accidental finding during the investigation. I sure don't know if the murder charge is a "very good case" and I won't really have any inkling until the August hearings.

 

[Deleted member 222031]

I just mean holding up the release of the AA until a preliminary hearing is done for the voter fraud charge. Its the last hearing in the series, and AA will be released two weeks after it.

This judge is sitting on the AA like a wren with a nest full of cowbird eggs. The defense is successfully hiding probable cause evidence from the one's paying for BM's room and board. When the cowbirds finally hatch, the wren will be looking for justice from a criminal court system that blatantly ignores the intent of Rule 55.1. Good luck getting them to ever respect it!

Murder with no witnesses or a body not only offers the protection of being presumed innocent but further protection as if the perp were a victim of the crime. That's a shameful shield to uphold.

RELEASE THE AA.

As usual, JMHO.

 

[Skigh]

I don't think we know it's a "very good case". It was enough to get an arrest warrant signed which is step one. I think we can all agree the voter fraud and the unlicensed short barrel are probably pretty factual open and shut type stuff and it's it may simply come down to which end of the charging range it goes and how high the fine. Only the voter fraud is a separate case. We don't know if the unlicensed in Colorado short gun is tied to the murder or was an accidental finding during the investigation. I sure don't know if the murder charge is a "very good case" and I won't really have any inkling until the August hearings.

Other posters have, in this thread and previous ones ,responded in detail why they think the murder charge is a very good case.

Only a month to go! We can begin our count down and hopefully learn more details about the evidence against Barry.

 

[al66pine]

Voter Fraud Charge?

I question how strong a case LE has, if they are also filing a voter fraud charge. To me, that smacks of desperation, and the fear that he just might beat the murder charges. Think about it: If the murder charges are solid, why spend additional resources on a voter fraud charge? Unless the motivation for such is political.

@Trebor5591 Good question. Prosecuting this particular voter fraud charge will not take much in the way of resources. No need for expert witnesses, lab work, etc.

@10ofRods gave an excellent response above, and just boiling it down here:
FBI agent witness & county clerk avail to testify; FBI recording (aud/vid/both?) of BM's confession; plus the doc' evd: ballot/envelope. Anyone predicting BM will testify to refute this?

A slam-dunk? Decades ago, I stopped using that term re both civil and crim cases. ETA: But I don't think the voter fraud charge indicates prosecutor's desperation on the murder case.

 

[Error505]

I don't think we know it's a "very good case". It was enough to get an arrest warrant signed which is step one. I think we can all agree the voter fraud and the unlicensed short barrel are probably pretty factual open and shut type stuff and it's it may simply come down to which end of the charging range it goes and how high the fine. Only the voter fraud is a separate case. We don't know if the unlicensed in Colorado short gun is tied to the murder or was an accidental finding during the investigation. I sure don't know if the murder charge is a "very good case" and I won't really have any inkling until the August hearings.

Well, may be, but you also in previous post didn’t think BM fraudulently applying (from all appearances) for PPP loan of $53,000 is any “big deal” either. As a tax payer, I have a different opinion about crimes committed by citizens who don’t think the laws ever apply to them. MOO and all that “stuff”

 

[Murphy1950]

Voter Fraud Charge?
@Trebor5591 Good question. Prosecuting this particular voter fraud charge will not take much in the way of resources. No need for expert witnesses, lab work, etc.

@10ofRods gave an excellent response above, and just boiling it down here:
FBI agent witness & county clerk avail to testify; FBI recording (aud/vid/both?) of BM's confession; plus the doc' evd: ballot/envelope. Anyone predicting BM will testify to refute this?

A slam-dunk? Decades ago, I stopped using that term re both civil and crim cases. ETA: But I don't think the voter fraud charge indicates prosecutor's desperation on the murder case.

The federal voting charges seems more like a housekeeping issue, not insurance to shore up the murder charge, it was a matter of wrapping up the package, it was time. They knew the October before and sat on it for 7 months.

I have to wonder why the conversation took place at Franz Lake?? They wanted Barry to know he was on their radar, he was being watched. Cat and mouse, game on, two can play Barry. IMO

Barry Morphew accused of using missing wife's ballot to vote for Donald Trump - KRDO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Barry's goose is cooked. 144 pages of an AA tells me so. LE was tuned in to him from day 1 IMO. Thank goodness for us Barry couldn't keep his big, fat mouth shut and tripped himself up trying to convince everyone of just how innocent he is.

They have the goods to prove Suzanne is dead even without her remains. I have no doubt he is going to be a resident of the CDOC for a loooooooong time. Maybe he, Chris Watts and Patrick Frazee can all share a cell together. Can you imagine??

JMO

 

[TKG]

You know what? If a person is talking to the FBI and they admit to a crime as Barry did, it's super unlikely the FBI is just going to give a pass. The FBI will spend very little "resources" on this, as they have Barry's admission of guilt (no doubt recorded). They identified themselves as FBI and Barry admitted to signing the form.

It was investigated as a matter of course by the County Clerk of Voting (Chaffee County) because it wasn't signed by the voting party (Suzanne). The investigator immediately noticed the issue, because it was Suzanne. Do you really think that a man who tried to forge proof of life for his missing/murdered wife should just get to do that without questioning?

Here's my tip: if you've committed voter fraud and FBI agents want to ask you how your missing wife managed to vote, I suggest you call your lawyer - because admitting guilt is going to get a charge. It's my understanding that all LE agencies are supposed to file charges when they have knowledge of a crime.

Are you suggesting that any further "minor" crimes Barry committed during the past couple of years should just be ignored?

If you've read the Judge's order, you'd know that the general impression is that the State has a very good case indeed. That's why the AA is sealed.

Completely agree with you here. They haven't yet announced charges with the PPP loan and we know that was wonky.

Every year they may add to his sentence helps serve justice. This one is a no brainer, they don't really have to work anything, he admitted he committed this one. I say the more charges they add the more pressure they place on him. Pile 'em on!

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Well, may be, but you also in previous post didn’t think BM fraudulently applying (from all appearances) for PPP loan of $53,000 is any “big deal” either. As a tax payer, I have a different opinion about crimes committed by citizens who don’t think the laws ever apply to them. MOO and all that “stuff”

I did not say that. I expressed that I did not know if it was a fraudulent application that the rules were complex and there were many different kinds of loans. I linked a document that showed how non FTEs were handled and some of the details about pay backs. And while I never said it, with all the loans that exceeded a million, yes I think $50,000 that probably needs to be paid back is "small" and some percentage of it may need to be paid back in a number of years so yes in the grand scheme of being charged with murder 1 a small loan that needs to be paid back is not a "big deal." The loans are public and the link is easy to find. And a link that clarified that contract employees were an expense of the loan. I suggested that people who have knowledge of fraud to report it. I don't have the knowledge to make that claim. And if I recall I said in my opinion the gov pandemic loans probably had no bearing on this case and I still believe that.

 

[10ofRods]

The federal voting charges seems more like a housekeeping issue, not insurance to shore up the murder charge, it was a matter of wrapping up the package, it was time. They knew the October before and sat on it for 7 months.

I have to wonder why the conversation took place at Franz Lake?? They wanted Barry to know he was on their radar, he was being watched. Cat and mouse, game on, two can play Barry. IMO

Barry Morphew accused of using missing wife's ballot to vote for Donald Trump - KRDO

Agreed. And we may see more of that. But the FBI doesn't want to give over its records to a trial judge and then be scolded for not charging Barry with a crime he didn't lie about.

I too am super curious about why at Franz Lake. Here's my speculation: they were following him in general and he went there. They figured they'd surprise him with their presence (and there may be something else about Franz Lake that the FBI knows, that we don't).

I think this helped spook Barry into packing up and beginning his move (and telling an informant, apparently, IMO, that he was "going to Arizona").

If it was to make him more nervous, it did, but he still couldn't completely keep his beak shut. IMO.

 

[Puzzles8]

Why is the date for the AA for murder tied to a voter fraud charge? MOO they are doing all they can to get a plea out if him.
MOO his attorneys wont go for it. They have succeeded in getting juries to see police as stupid and biased.
They only need one biased, anti-police juror, MOO easy to do in a polarized atmosphere.

There may be more to the voter fraud case than we realize.

In any case, this incident speaks to BM's character.

JMO, MOO

 

[GordianKnot]

There may be more to the voter fraud case than we realize.

In any case, this incident speaks to BM's character.

JMO, MOO

BBM:

It really does.

Every time I think about BM, one word springs instantly to mind:

Hubris.