Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #63 *ARREST*

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  • #601
There may be more to the voter fraud case than we realize.

In any case, this incident speaks to BM's character.

JMO, MOO

It certainly points to the fact that BM was 100% sure that Suzanne was not capable of voting herself. That she hadn't run away from an untenable home situation, hadn't run off with a secret lover, wasn't going to show up somewhere and vote.

This, on its own, might not point to much - but combine it with a lot of other circumstantial proof, and it may help seal the deal.
 
  • #602
Barry's goose is cooked. 144 pages of an AA tells me so. LE was tuned in to him from day 1 IMO. Thank goodness for us Barry couldn't keep his big, fat mouth shut and tripped himself up trying to convince everyone of just how innocent he is.

They have the goods to prove Suzanne is dead even without her remains. I have no doubt he is going to be a resident of the CDOC for a loooooooong time. Maybe he, Chris Watts and Patrick Frazee can all share a cell together. Can you imagine??

JMO

BBM:

Make room for Letecia!

She's going to be joining their ranks soon, too.

The Colorado Department of Corrections is fast becoming a veritable "Who's Who" of America's most moronic murderers.

JMO.
 
  • #603
It certainly points to the fact that BM was 100% sure that Suzanne was not capable of voting herself. That she hadn't run away from an untenable home situation, hadn't run off with a secret lover, wasn't going to show up somewhere and vote.

This, on its own, might not point to much - but combine it with a lot of other circumstantial proof, and it may help seal the deal.
Or he may have thought, like the friend I mentioned a month ago that he could legally vote for her with the conservatorship. But that would be part of an interview that we don’t have access to. Doesn’t change the fact that it was not legal but it also doesn’t tie directly to the murder and is a separate charge. It is just one of a chain of things that happened during the year. I do not know if facts from one trial can be used in the other trial… I don’t think so but am not certain.
 
  • #604
Or he may have thought, like the friend I mentioned a month ago that he could legally vote for her with the conservatorship. But that would be part of an interview that we don’t have access to. Doesn’t change the fact that it was not legal but it also doesn’t tie directly to the murder and is a separate charge. It is just one of a chain of things that happened during the year. I do not know if facts from one trial can be used in the other trial… I don’t think so but am not certain.

Yes, I don't know if it can be introduced at the anticipated murder trial. Unless someone brings it up and the prosecution can pounce on it.

However, conservatorship or not, if BM really thought Suzanne was killed by a mountain lion or a stranger, he wouldn't have used her vote because everyone knows that deceased people can't vote. I think he felt secure that Suzanne was only "missing", he knew she wouldn't show up, and he unwisely pushed his conservatorship to the illegal max.
 
  • #605
Yes, I don't know if it can be introduced at the anticipated murder trial. Unless someone brings it up and the prosecution can pounce on it.

However, conservatorship or not, if BM really thought Suzanne was killed by a mountain lion or a stranger, he wouldn't have used her vote because everyone knows that deceased people can't vote. I think he felt secure that Suzanne was only "missing", he knew she wouldn't show up, and he unwisely pushed his conservatorship to the illegal max.
Well actually, dead people can vote, but only in Chicago...............:D;)
Chicago Voters Cast Ballots From Beyond The Grave

JMO, MOO

ETA - Leave that Mountain Lion alone!
 
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  • #606
Where do you think she was killed? Do you have a theory?? You're not alone in your thinking, i've always believed it was in the house or on the property. Interested in your theory, they are always well considered
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He may as well as hung a sign saying I killed SM here, as greet his wife’s searchers with a rifle. He allowed the dogs to search the exterior of the property. I suspect he shot her in a cold fit of rage. Between the bobcat, machinery, and all the other noises I am veering on the idea he used cement to weigh her down or encase her. A websleuther posted a copy of google earth or equivalent and the construction site looked like it showed the imprint of a body. It would be great if anyone could repost that image. IMO.
Is this the "5" that PE was teasing about??



Arrrrrgh!!!!!
 
  • #607
Other posters have, in this thread and previous ones ,responded in detail why they think the murder charge is a very good case.

Only a month to go! We can begin our count down and hopefully learn more details about the evidence against Barry.


I could not bear to see his smugness if he gets away with it. Praying for justice for SM.
 
  • #608
He may as well as hung a sign saying I killed SM here, as greet his wife’s searchers with a rifle. He allowed the dogs to search the exterior of the property. I suspect he shot her in a cold fit of rage. Between the bobcat, machinery, and all the other noises I am veering on the idea he used cement to weigh her down or encase her. A websleuther posted a copy of google earth or equivalent and the construction site looked like it showed the imprint of a body. It would be great if anyone could repost that image. IMO.




Arrrrrgh!!!!!

Although he appears sharp as a ball, he does he slightly more savvy than that. An abandoned mine, possibly. I still think it was in or around the house and he took her out in a cooler or something similar. He has managed to avert consequences to his actions for years, I think he believed this would be one more of those times he is smarter than others and again, gets away with it.
 
  • #609
It certainly points to the fact that BM was 100% sure that Suzanne was not capable of voting herself. That she hadn't run away from an untenable home situation, hadn't run off with a secret lover, wasn't going to show up somewhere and vote.

This, on its own, might not point to much - but combine it with a lot of other circumstantial proof, and it may help seal the deal.

Of course he knew she couldn't vote - but that would not be a legal certainty. She could have (if alive) have changed her voting address (but she didn't). Or she could have called him on the phone and said "vote for me" (which is what he should have said if he wanted to maintain she was alive).

He's just so...uneducated about voting...I don't know what to say. It would have been way better for him, legally, to either attempt a forgery of her signature (which probably wouldn't have been caught, quite honestly) OR just not to do it at all.

He's so ignorant that he thought sending in her ballot "witnessed" by him (after filing for a Conservatorship in Indiana based on the fact that she was legally missing) but not signed by the voter was a good way of casting a vote. As if no one checks. As if the broader government/Clerk of Records and Elections doesn't exist. As if he had very little interaction with, say, mortgages and property records.

Maybe Suzanne did all of that - but seriously, he did a really dumb thing there (almost taunting the local authorities).
 
  • #610
Yes, I don't know if it can be introduced at the anticipated murder trial. Unless someone brings it up and the prosecution can pounce on it.

However, conservatorship or not, if BM really thought Suzanne was killed by a mountain lion or a stranger, he wouldn't have used her vote because everyone knows that deceased people can't vote. I think he felt secure that Suzanne was only "missing", he knew she wouldn't show up, and he unwisely pushed his conservatorship to the illegal max.

Sorry I didn't see this. Yes, everyone knows that except Barry Morphew.
 
  • #611
Voter Fraud. Fed or State?
The federal voting charges seems more like a housekeeping issue, not insurance to shore up the murder charge,...I have to wonder why the conversation took place at Franz Lake??...
Barry Morphew accused of using missing wife's ballot to vote for Donald Trump - KRDO
@Murphy1950 bbm Thx for your post on the voter fraud charge.
Maybe you or someone can refresh my (sometimes dodgy) memory on one point.

Yes, the ballot was in the 2020 fed Presidential election, and
yes, FedBI agent(s? plural?) interviewed BM, and
yes, BM mentioned SM wanting to support fed Pres. candidate Trump,
But iirc the correctly, BM was charged under a CO crim statute, not fed statute.

Iirc, when that chg was announced, I read CO statute cited in the information, and
the new-ish CO Dist Atty filed in CO district court, and
when BM was questioned, it was not just FBI. Didn't a CCSO detective or a dist. atty office's investigator also participate in that chat? (Too big to call it a tete-a-tete.:rolleyes:)

Not saying ^ post was incorrect, just does not jive w my memory, and I'm too distracted ATM to track down relevant posts in threads or MSM. my2ct

@Murphy1950 I am also curious about why they talked w BM at that location, Franz Lake. Also @10ofRods Any (further) theories on that?
 
  • #612
Voter Fraud. Fed or State?
@Murphy1950 bbm Thx for your post on the voter fraud charge.
Maybe you or someone can refresh my (sometimes dodgy) memory on one point.

Yes, the ballot was in the 2020 fed Presidential election, and
yes, FedBI agent(s? plural?) interviewed BM, and
yes, BM mentioned SM wanting to support fed Pres. candidate Trump,
But iirc the correctly, BM was charged under a CO crim statute, not fed statute.

Iirc, when that chg was announced, I read CO statute cited in the information, and
the new-ish CO Dist Atty filed in CO district court, and
when BM was questioned, it was not just FBI. Didn't a CCSO detective or a dist. atty office's investigator also participate in that chat? (Too big to call it a tete-a-tete.:rolleyes:)

Not saying ^ post was incorrect, just does not jive w my memory, and I'm too distracted ATM to track down relevant posts in threads or MSM. my2ct

@Murphy1950 I am also curious about why they talked w BM at that location, Franz Lake. Also @10ofRods Any (further) theories on that?

Could it be that he was charged under a CO statute because he broke the CO law with regard to a federal election? From what I understand, each state has their own way of voting in a federal election. It is not a uniform method across the whole country.

ETA linkhttps://abcnews.go.com/Politics/states-changed-rules-voting-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/story?id=72309089
 
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  • #613
Could it be that he was charged under a CO statute because he broke the CO law with regard to a federal election? From what I understand, each state has their own way of voting in a federal election. It is not a uniform method across the whole country.
@SouthAussie Thanks for your post. Possible. Fed laws re voting require certain protocols/procedures of all states.
IIrc, BM submitted this ballot in Nov. 2020 election, which also happened to be the election which swept the new Chaffee Co. District Atty into office. Yes, it is interesting that agents from FBI, not just local or state agencies, interviewed him.

Hmmm. I wonder if BM marked SM's ballot to vote for her or her opponent.;)
If he marked SM's ballot for her opponent, I guess BM could argue that's just further proof of the Big-Out-to-Frame-Barry Conspiracy:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:/s.
 
  • #614
Voter Fraud. Fed or State?
@Murphy1950 bbm Thx for your post on the voter fraud charge.
Maybe you or someone can refresh my (sometimes dodgy) memory on one point.

Yes, the ballot was in the 2020 fed Presidential election, and
yes, FedBI agent(s? plural?) interviewed BM, and
yes, BM mentioned SM wanting to support fed Pres. candidate Trump,
But iirc the correctly, BM was charged under a CO crim statute, not fed statute.

Iirc, when that chg was announced, I read CO statute cited in the information, and
the new-ish CO Dist Atty filed in CO district court, and
when BM was questioned, it was not just FBI. Didn't a CCSO detective or a dist. atty office's investigator also participate in that chat? (Too big to call it a tete-a-tete.:rolleyes:)

Not saying ^ post was incorrect, just does not jive w my memory, and I'm too distracted ATM to track down relevant posts in threads or MSM. my2ct

@Murphy1950 I am also curious about why they talked w BM at that location, Franz Lake. Also @10ofRods Any (further) theories on that?

I think BM being interviewed by an FBI Agent may have confused this issue as a federal matter when it was not.

BM allegedly completed SM's ballot, signed as the witness, and returned the ballot to be counted.

In May 2021 - BM was charged as follows:
  • Forgery of public record
  • Election mail ballot offense
Suspected cases of voter fraud are typically referred to the appropriate District Attorney’s office or to the Colorado Attorney General for investigation and prosecution. In this case, given the name on the ballot, the County Clerk contacted the Chaffee County Sheriff.

Also, I'm not finding any reference to Franz Lake with this matter and don't understand the significance. Can you please share a link for this. Thanks.

Barry Morphew accused of voting for missing wife Suzanne Morphew | 9news.com

Interesting info by state on Who Can Return an Absentee or Mail Ballot on Behalf of a Voter at link below.

VOPP: Table 10: Who Can Collect and Return an Absentee Ballot Other Than the Voter
 
  • #615
Here is an interesting article from the bar association regarding voting and conservatorship. It talks more about the nuances but also touches on the states and their roll.
Guardianship and the Right to Vote
 
  • #616
Or he may have thought, like the friend I mentioned a month ago that he could legally vote for her with the conservatorship. But that would be part of an interview that we don’t have access to. Doesn’t change the fact that it was not legal but it also doesn’t tie directly to the murder and is a separate charge. It is just one of a chain of things that happened during the year. I do not know if facts from one trial can be used in the other trial… I don’t think so but am not certain.

I'm not so sure I buy that. Especially since he was supposed to have said this:

"Just because I wanted Trump to win," he said, according to the warrant. "To give him [Donald Trump] another vote, I figured all these other guys are cheating and I know she [Suzanne Morphew] was going to vote for Trump anyway." Husband Accused of Killing Suzanne Morphew Allegedly Sent in Fraudulent Presidential Ballot for Her

That sure sounds to me like he knew dang good and well what he was doing was illegal. "All these other guys" cheating, so he figured he would too.

jmo
 
  • #617
I'm not so sure I buy that. Especially since he was supposed to have said this:

"Just because I wanted Trump to win," he said, according to the warrant. "To give him [Donald Trump] another vote, I figured all these other guys are cheating and I know she [Suzanne Morphew] was going to vote for Trump anyway." Husband Accused of Killing Suzanne Morphew Allegedly Sent in Fraudulent Presidential Ballot for Her

That sure sounds to me like he knew dang good and well what he was doing was illegal. "All these other guys" cheating, so he figured he would too.

jmo
Agree, if he really did say that then he knew what he was doing. The People Magazine article says he "allegedly" made that claim. I think if he doesn't plea deal this charge we'll find out in the court docs if he admitted knowingly comitting fraud at the time.
 
  • #618
BBM:

Make room for Letecia!

She's going to be joining their ranks soon, too.

The Colorado Department of Corrections is fast becoming a veritable "Who's Who" of America's most moronic murderers.

JMO.
Hah, I forgot about dodo brain. I can only imagine the conversations between those 4......

well, exactly! :p
 
  • #619
I haven’t found the msm link about Franz Lake, aka Franz #1 Reservoir, but it is interesting that it is located between the Longhorn Ranch subdivision, where BM bought, and later sold, a lot, and the beach house construction site, where BM reportedly had a job and where the FBI searched early on.
 
  • #620
I haven’t found the msm link about Franz Lake, aka Franz #1 Reservoir, but it is interesting that it is located between the Longhorn Ranch subdivision, where BM bought, and later sold, a lot, and the beach house construction site, where BM reportedly had a job and where the FBI searched early on.
Frantz Lake is a reservoir and a popular fishing location just outside the "main" part of Salida. Everything is relative if you look at a map - pretty much one main N/S (Hwy. 285) and one main E/W (Hwy. 50) and a backroad out to 285 with Salida being used as an identifier since it is the main commerce area for many, many miles as well as a population concentration of almost 6,000 out of the 19,000+ who live in the entire Chaffee county area. https://cpw.state.co.us/learn/Maps/FrantzMtShavanoSandsSWA_geo.pdf

edited to add map of Chaffee County. Chaffee County, Colorado - Wikipedia
 
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