Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #64 *ARREST*

[al66pine]

LE Learns of Pen. How?

....I'm curious to find out how LE found the spy pen, was it just a lucky find during their search or were they tipped off by someone.

@SeekingJustice**sbm Good question. If pen belonged to SM, then other inter-related questions: Who bought pen for SM? How was it paid for? How did SM physically obtain it? <--- Presumably w BM unaware. {ETA: Esp'ly since he is purported to be sooo controlling of her}.

During 1st search of PP home, pursuant to SW, did LE find spy pen there & recognize it was no ordinary pen, just by pure luck? Maybe. If so, did they specify pen as an item sought on SW #2, then "find" it on later search?

Did someone tell LE about it, so it was specified in SW & LE found?
1. Relative/long standing friend in IN, aware of dom. issues (whatever kind) bought for her, at her request or of own accord. Maybe bought in IN, tucked into larger object, mailed/UPS'ed to her in CO.
2. CO friend aware of dom. issues (whatever kind) bought for her, at her request or of own accord. Maybe gave it to her in person.
3. DV-group friend ^ ditto.^
4. Dau's Mal or Mac. ^ ditto. ^
5. _____________^ ditto.^ Any ideas???

Maybe SM bought for self ---
1. At stix & brix store, not in Salida & when BM was not w her. Took it home herself.
2. Online, had delivered elsewhere, or to PP w spec'l instructions re packaging.
If so, then LE may have learned of it thru Documentary evd. #1, bank stmts, etc.

Documentary evd of payment - hard copy or online.
1. Bank/CU stmts, debit or CC card, check image, w debit/charge to obvious retailer - a spy store/equivalent, a tech-centric store.
2. PayPal a/c, Venmo a/c or similar.

_______ Other? IDK. {ETA: Regardless pen's audio/vid content will be interesting.} my2ct.

 

[marylamby]

I still think the spy pen is favorable to the defense in some way. He is a nut job and this is gig, laughing that he got us all again thinking it's hers. This is a vindictive, manipulative Barry move. Also, think his attorneys should just go down to grand Central station county jail ask their client the questions he was there that night he knows better than anyone

I see absolutely nothing wrong with Suzanne owning and using a spy pen/recording device, if it was hers and I believe it was. I think it's clear to anyone and everyone that she needed to record evidence to get out of her situation. She was right. She is dead, after all.

 

[DizzyB]

I see absolutely nothing wrong with Suzanne owning and using a spy pen/recording device, if it was hers and I believe it was. I think it's clear to anyone and everyone that she needed to record evidence to get out of her situation. She was right. She is dead, after all.

Yes let us not forget Suzanne. For some reason, this God fearing, till death do us part, obey your husband mother and wife felt the need to make recordings on a spy pen, Those recordings are important to the prosecution of her husband who is accused of her murder. Justice for Suzanne.

 

[Brubon]

But this theory opens with the supposition that Barry was an abusive husband…we don’t know if that is even a true statement. And now the recording pen that prosecution and defense attributed to Suzanne is now Barry’s? I think things are what they are. Trying to “fit” circumstances to create a theory still has to encompass the facts.

It is a true statement that the obituary of Gene Moorman requested donations be made to "your local domestic violence organization" on Gene's behalf.

My DH's obituary requested donations to our area "Meals on Wheels" organization. Feeding the indigent became his passion during his 9 years of retirement.

Obituaries, IMO, do not lie.

MOO

 

[SouthAussie]

It is a true statement that the obituary of Gene Moorman requested donations be made to "your local domestic violence organization" on Gene's behalf.

My DH's obituary requested donations to our area "Meals on Wheels" organization. Feeding the indigent became his passion during his 9 years of retirement.

Obituaries, IMO, do not lie.

MOO

As well ......


FOX31 and Channel 2 asked Moorman if he thinks Barry Morphew was involved in Suzanne’s disappearance.

“I’m afraid this is domestic abuse,” shared Moorman.

Moorman said he learned while searching for Suzanne that she was “working with domestic abuse meetings.”

‘I’m afraid this is domestic abuse’; Suzanne Morhpew’s brother says husband not participating in search, carrying shotgun to keep people off property | FOX31 Denver

 

[Aloe]

Makes me wonder if someone else was aware she was going to be using the spy pen to gain recordings of some kind and they tipped off LE once SM went missing.

Could there be charges coming for some crime in the past SM eventually suspected BM was involved in? Part of the reason for leaving Indiana, perhaps?

I thinking "Yes".

 

[O.Incandenza]

That case was very different though; it was totally winnable.

It was either a murder, or it was a suicide. I could have gone either way on that one, which is to say I would have found him not guilty.

Good defense attorneys make a difference in close cases or in cases where their client is actually innocent. They don't make much of a difference in cases where there is a mountain of evidence against their client, unless the prosecution or LE royally screws up.

We don't know for certain yet how solid the prosecution's case is, but it sure sounds like they have a lot of evidence. And the fact that BM was still sitting down for interviews with the FBI without a lawyer as recently as this April is... something else. That's sure not going to help him much.

 

[DeDee]

If Suzanne hired a private investigator, she may have been speaking to him, as recorded on her 007 spy pen, during which she listened to messages that the PI uncovered, which may have confirmed whatever suspicions led to her getting a PI....

The star witness, one of them anyway, could very well be a PI.

Additionally Suzanne may have been looking for a rat... and insodoing discovered a sewerful....

That message to her sister, the day before, may have laid that out --

My heart is broken.

In addition to all things we've come to learn about Suzanne -- kind, beautiful -- we now learn she was damn smart.

She just needed more time.

Just one more thing he took away from her.

I wish I could have known her.

I'm sorry I ever even read his name.

May the DA use this new information judiciously. Closing statement written -- such that Suzanne herself gets the last word.

JMO

Suzanne did not know it but she was out of time. She would never believe Barry would murder her. He knew that about her.

The thing about living with a overbearing, malignant NPD like him, is that they learn; they know, more about you, their victim, than you may know about yourself. Suzanne was in mortal danger for decisions she may not have made yet but Barry may have thought that she had. Barry had a fatally tight deadline.

From Spy Pen evidence, SM apparently was working on an undercover project concerning her husband. Odd to need to record audio convos and using a Spy Pen in order to do it.

 

[seekingjustice**]

But this theory opens with the supposition that Barry was an abusive husband…we don’t know if that is even a true statement. And now the recording pen that prosecution and defense attributed to Suzanne is now Barry’s? I think things are what they are. Trying to “fit” circumstances to create a theory still has to encompass the facts.

Well I think the ultimate form of domestic violence is murder and that is what BM has been charged with so I believe that my theory is correct based on the evidence of his arrest. As for who 'owned' the spy pen, I agree it sounds more likely to be SM based on the statement made by the defense team referring to it as 'SM spy pen' but I also like to explore other ideas and possibilities out as well.

 

[katydid23]

I know U.K. and USA law is different and presented differently too but in the U.K. this is part of the rules of disclosure and had it not been put on the disclosure schedule to the defence, then that action once found out about, would be enough to have a mistrial in the U.K. with the case thrown out on prosecution procedural issues

Same in the US. You have 'discovery' ----all of which has to be handed over to the defense---even mitigating evidence.

 

[al66pine]

BM talking w LE. When?

....
We don't know for certain yet how solid the prosecution's case is, but it sure sounds like they have a lot of evidence. And the fact that BM was still sitting down for interviews with the FBI without a lawyer as recently as this April is... something else. That's sure not going to help him much.

@O.Incandenza sbm bbm Agree w you: BM's little tete-a-tete w FBI in April 2021 will not help him, at least re the election ballot crim counts.

But aside from that interview, do we know when BM was still sitting down w LE, w'out atty? Any time since May or June 2020, when presumably he'd consulted atty re Guardianship? (Did he first talk w a CO. atty re Gdnship,
who advised him to engage IN-licensed atty for that?) Or do we know when BM engaged Colorado criminal counsel?

Iirc, FBI approached him less formally. Franz Lake/Reservoir area? Did BM think if convo was not a sit-down in FBI office, it did "not count." Or he crossed his fingers? /sarc

 

[Aloe]

Suzanne did not know it but she was out of time. She would never believe Barry would murder her. He knew that about her.

The thing about living with a overbearing, malignant NPD like him, is that they learn; they know, more about you, their victim, than you may know about yourself. Suzanne was in mortal danger for decisions she may not have made yet but Barry may have thought that she had. Barry had a fatally tight deadline.

From Spy Pen evidence, SM apparently was working on an undercover project concerning her husband. Odd to need to record audio convos and using a Spy Pen in order to do it.

At this point, I won't be shocked if it comes out that she was working as an CI for CBI or FBI. JMO ( No eye rolls, please )

 

[Cindizzi]

BM talking w LE. When?
@O.Incandenza sbm bbm Agree w you: BM's little tete-a-tete w FBI in April 2021 will not help him, at least re the election ballot crim counts.

But aside from that interview, do we know when BM was still sitting down w LE, w'out atty? Any time since May or June 2020, when presumably he'd consulted atty re Guardianship? (Did he first talk w a CO. atty re Gdnship,
who advised him to engage IN-licensed atty for that?) Or do we know when BM engaged Colorado criminal counsel?

Iirc, FBI approached him less formally. Franz Lake/Reservoir area? Did BM think if convo was not a sit-down in FBI office, it did "not count." Or he crossed his fingers? /sarc

IMO he did not have a lawyer until after arrest.

We now know of 2 FBI interviews in April 2021.
April 22 near Franz Lake to discuss his Ballot Fraud/Forgery.
April 5 when FBI presented him with 26 pieces of evidence according to his counsel IE in yesterday’s hearing.
May 5 day of arrest at Press Conference DA Stanley was asked if BM made any statements and she said No. he asked for a lawyer.

https://twitter.com/marcsallinger/status/1390064613593546754?s=21
NEW: Here is Barry Morphew’s mug shot from the Chaffee County Sheriff’s Office. Investigators say he did not answer questions this morning after being taken into custody and requested a lawyer. He’ll be in court tomorrow morning #9News

May 6 First appearance represented by Public Defender Office.

May 17 Public Defender Office withdrawal from case and private attorneys IE and DN now counsel of record.

Can’t wait for the AA and Prelim to hear about the 3-30 hours of interviews.
MOO

 

[Aloe]

Well, the words Domestic Violence are at the top of the charging document Page 1.
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases of interest/21CR78/21CR78 Morphew Amended Complaint 051821.pdf

IANAL, but I believe it’s on there because it’s a sentence enhancement.
The very act of Murder is DV . IMO

You are correct that we have seen no evidence of DV in MSM or from LE, but we the public, and the Press have not seen the AA yet.

SM’s family members have alluded to having found out that SM was involved somehow with DV groups.
JMO DV does not only include physical abuse but also mental, verbal, psychological control/abuse. IMHO

Yep, and also: https://www.dvconnect.org/domestic-violence/financial-abuse/

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Whoever bought the spy pen and used it,it's just not a normal thing to do in a healthy marriage.

There can be no *good* reason to bring that into a relationship. Someone wants to secretly record someone else, is what it boils down to.

It tells us something was badly wrong within that marriage.

JMO

 

[HongKongPhooey]

As well ......


FOX31 and Channel 2 asked Moorman if he thinks Barry Morphew was involved in Suzanne’s disappearance.

“I’m afraid this is domestic abuse,” shared Moorman.

Moorman said he learned while searching for Suzanne that she was “working with domestic abuse meetings.”

‘I’m afraid this is domestic abuse’; Suzanne Morhpew’s brother says husband not participating in search, carrying shotgun to keep people off property | FOX31 Denver

Thanks for posting this.

It's so sad that Suzanne is no longer here to know that many of us here believe she suffered abuse she maybe felt she couldnt talk about, and are gunning for justice on her behalf.

 

[Scootie98]

I disagree that it was clear during the hearing that the spy pen recording by SM was of a man, and that the man listening to the spy pen was in fact the man SM recorded.

From my personal, contemporaneous notes during the WebEx hearing, I recall that defense attorney IE referenced the spy pen audio twice. The first time was when the Judge was recounting the motion filed by the defense:

My notes...

Spy pen recording was reproduced for the defense; defense does not have the FBI enhanced version that they used to interview a consequential witness in this case.

FBI played the recording for a male witness. In the recording the defense received, they can hear the investigators interaction with the witness while he’s listening to the recording (but can’t hear the pen recording itself).

Second reference by IE requesting enhanced audio by FBI:

My notes...

One spy pen recording that Suzanne recorded—it was between her and another individual on the telephone AND also her listening to messages from this individual, that are extremely critical to the case. It’s acknowledged by FBI agent they are difficult to hear. FBI replayed messages for a male that listened using headphones.

MOO

ETA: OP previously took exception to MSM/Fox21 report citing SM record a male using a spy pen.

devil's advocate moment here......didn't the defense purposely refer to the pen as Suzanne's pen? If that is accurate, then they may be projecting its existence onto Suzanne while knowing full well that Barry planted it to monitor Suzanne's phone calls while he was not in the house. I think this is plausible, as we have seen examples where Suzanne would change her tune or clam up whenver Barry entered the room while she was on the phone. He would have been aware of that, and would have been motivated, imo, to find out what she was up to in his absence....especially if he thought she was preparing to leave him.

 

[Scootie98]

I disagree that it was clear during the hearing that the spy pen recording by SM was of a man, and that the man listening to the spy pen was in fact the man SM recorded.

From my personal, contemporaneous notes during the WebEx hearing, I recall that defense attorney IE referenced the spy pen audio twice. The first time was when the Judge was recounting the motion filed by the defense:

My notes...

Spy pen recording was reproduced for the defense; defense does not have the FBI enhanced version that they used to interview a consequential witness in this case.

FBI played the recording for a male witness. In the recording the defense received, they can hear the investigators interaction with the witness while he’s listening to the recording (but can’t hear the pen recording itself).

Second reference by IE requesting enhanced audio by FBI:

My notes...

One spy pen recording that Suzanne recorded—it was between her and another individual on the telephone AND also her listening to messages from this individual, that are extremely critical to the case. It’s acknowledged by FBI agent they are difficult to hear. FBI replayed messages for a male that listened using headphones.

MOO

ETA: OP previously took exception to MSM/Fox21 report citing SM record a male using a spy pen.

devil's advocate moment here......didn't the defense purposely refer to the pen as Suzanne's pen? If that is accurate, then they may be projecting its existence onto Suzanne while knowing full well that Barry planted it to monitor Suzanne's phone calls while he was not in the house. I think this is plausible, as we have seen examples where Suzanne would change her tune or clam up whenever Barry entered the room while she was on the phone. He would have been aware of that, and would have been motivated, imo, to find out what she was up to in his absence....especially if he thought she was preparing to leave him.

 

[Scootie98]

Technically speaking, it just doesn’t work for it to be anything other than Suzanne’s, which is how it was referred to during the hearing “Suzanne’s pen.”

It would have to manually be turned on, and intentionally held near a phone for recording. It’s something you use to record others, and not the other way around.

If Barry wanted to monitor Suzanne, he could have placed a listening device in the home, or simply put an app on her phone.

A pen just doesn’t work.

while this is sensible....it would work as well as BM signing onto SM's facebook account from his phone, while posing as SM, no?

 

[Scootie98]

I think there is a good chance that we need to prepare for the fact that there could be no certain information that Suzanne is deceased. But that there is a whole lot of circumstantial evidence - when taken in sequence - that says that this is the case.

Possibly no large pools of luminoled blood, no large pools of blood on the underside of a carpet, no smoking gun, no gun residue on hands ....

The defense could be indicating that this is one area that they are going to use to try to create reasonable doubt.

"Because no-one has heard from Suzanne in over a year doesn't mean she is dead."
"Because our client used great amounts of chlorine to clean himself doesn't mean she is dead."
"Because bleach was smelled in the hotel room (and in the house?) doesn't mean she is dead."
Etc, etc, etc .....

Not saying that this is right, but they will use any tactic that they can think of to try to create reasonable doubt.
The best thing possible, at the moment, would be for Suzanne's remains to be discovered. Then that argument would be cancelled out.

I doubt the defense even touches the bleach issue....they would just ignore it as "meh"....they could explain it away in either the hotel or the house...but not both, imo...because Barry is the only common denominator.