Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #64 *ARREST*

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  • #861
I still think the spy pen is favorable to the defense in some way. He is a nut job and this is gig, laughing that he got us all again thinking it's hers. This is a vindictive, manipulative Barry move. Also, think his attorneys should just go down to grand Central station county jail ask their client the questions he was there that night he knows better than anyone
I understand the thinking that the pen can't be BM's because he would have gotten rid of it right away...but, he was busy cleaning the house and moving a body....combined with the fact that the house was locked down and sealed by LE rather quickly, followed by a second time...and overall for a lengthy amount of time. No way BM could tie up all of the loose ends....and he obviously didn't, imo.
 
  • #862
devil's advocate moment here......didn't the defense purposely refer to the pen as Suzanne's pen? If that is accurate, then they may be projecting its existence onto Suzanne while knowing full well that Barry planted it to monitor Suzanne's phone calls while he was not in the house. I think this is plausible, as we have seen examples where Suzanne would change her tune or clam up whenver Barry entered the room while she was on the phone. He would have been aware of that, and would have been motivated, imo, to find out what she was up to in his absence....especially if he thought she was preparing to leave him.

I think if it wasn't Suzanne's spy pen, the judge or the prosecutor likely would have corrected the defense. I didn't hear either of them do that.

They all would have been aware that there were many people watching these proceedings.
 
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  • #863
A slightly different look at Barry's life (growing up) and events leading up to his arrest...

 
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  • #864
If anything, the hearing demonstrated the limitations of attorneys when it comes to data evidence. The prosecution needs to appoint a main point of contact with digital forensic expertise to manage the flow of discovery and report to Lindsay. DA Lindsay is not capable of managing that. I wouldn’t be either (lawyer here). I think that would solve the majority of the issues here and the case is important enough to justify appointing such a person. MOO.
 
  • #865
Suzanne was helping to counsel at DV groups, not there as a victim of abuse. Am I not right?
I think no one really knows at this point. But we will find out fairly soon.
 
  • #866
If anything, the hearing demonstrated the limitations of attorneys when it comes to data evidence. The prosecution needs to appoint a main point of contact with digital forensic expertise to manage the flow of discovery and report to Lindsay. DA Lindsay is not capable of managing that. I wouldn’t be either (lawyer here). I think that would solve the majority of the issues here and the case is important enough to justify appointing such a person. MOO.
I’m sure Barry is paying for tech people to comb through every byte of evidence. I would want the best tech in Colorado on the prosecution’s team. You don’t want evidence thrown out on technicalities.
 
  • #867
I understand the thinking that the pen can't be BM's because he would have gotten rid of it right away...but, he was busy cleaning the house and moving a body....combined with the fact that the house was locked down and sealed by LE rather quickly, followed by a second time...and overall for a lengthy amount of time. No way BM could tie up all of the loose ends....and he obviously didn't, imo.
I’m guessing the fingerprints on the pen revealed who owned the pen. Regardless, of who owned it, my guess is it will work against BM, and that’s what matters most!

MOO With regard to that man-cave of a home, Melinda assured us that Suzanne chose the home and loved it. For me, the problem with that is that Suzanne said this well before she realized how emotionally and psychologically abused she was. Manipulators like BM have a way of making you believe you want what they want. Then it appears to others that they are giving you a choice. Also, for Suzanne the move to CO was a positive move if infidelity was a problem back in IN. Her goal was to save her marriage and the man she loved and as the “good/subservient” wife she needed to make him “happy” so that he would love her again as he once did. That would also mean loving the house he was hinting at. Unfortunately, the love train left the station in IN for BM and he had a one-way ticket. When I think of that card/note that he produced to show how “in love” she was with him, I want to slap him across that leathered face. That was a desperate plea from Suzanne attempting to win him back, wanting him to love her the way she loved him. What a sick move for him to use that the way he did.

Like all of you, I can’t wait for the prelim and the AA. I want to know everything he doesn’t want us to know :). Really hoping there are no delays in the forecast!
 
  • #868
LE Learns of Pen. How?
@SeekingJustice**sbm Good question. If pen belonged to SM, then other inter-related questions: Who bought pen for SM? How was it paid for? How did SM physically obtain it? <--- Presumably w BM unaware. {ETA: Esp'ly since he is purported to be sooo controlling of her}.

During 1st search of PP home, pursuant to SW, did LE find spy pen there & recognize it was no ordinary pen, just by pure luck? Maybe. If so, did they specify pen as an item sought on SW #2, then "find" it on later search?

Did someone tell LE about it, so it was specified in SW & LE found?
1. Relative/long standing friend in IN, aware of dom. issues (whatever kind) bought for her, at her request or of own accord. Maybe bought in IN, tucked into larger object, mailed/UPS'ed to her in CO.
2. CO friend aware of dom. issues (whatever kind) bought for her, at her request or of own accord. Maybe gave it to her in person.
3. DV-group friend ^ ditto.^
4. Dau's Mal or Mac. ^ ditto. ^
5. _____________^ ditto.^ Any ideas???

Maybe SM bought for self ---
1. At stix & brix store, not in Salida & when BM was not w her. Took it home herself.
2. Online, had delivered elsewhere, or to PP w spec'l instructions re packaging.
If so, then LE may have learned of it thru Documentary evd. #1, bank stmts, etc.

Documentary evd of payment - hard copy or online.
1. Bank/CU stmts, debit or CC card, check image, w debit/charge to obvious retailer - a spy store/equivalent, a tech-centric store.
2. PayPal a/c, Venmo a/c or similar.

_______ Other? IDK. {ETA: Regardless pen's audio/vid content will be interesting.} my2ct.
I’m guessing the fingerprints on the pen revealed who owned the pen. Regardless, of who owned it, my guess is it will work against BM, and that’s what matters most!

MOO With regard to that man-cave of a home, Melinda assured us that Suzanne chose the home and loved it. For me, the problem with that is that Suzanne said this well before she realized how emotionally and psychologically abused she was. Manipulators like BM have a way of making you believe you want what they want. Then it appears to others that they are giving you a choice. Also, for Suzanne the move to CO was a positive move if infidelity was a problem back in IN. Her goal was to save her marriage and the man she loved and as the “good/subservient” wife she needed to make him “happy” so that he would love her again as he once did. That would also mean loving the house he was hinting at. Unfortunately, the love train left the station in IN for BM and he had a one-way ticket. When I think of that card/note that he produced to show how “in love” she was with him, I want to slap him across that leathered face. That was a desperate plea from Suzanne attempting to win him back, wanting him to love her the way she loved him. What a sick move for him to use that the way he did.

Like all of you, I can’t wait for the prelim and the AA. I want to know everything he doesn’t want us to know :). Really hoping there are no delays in the forecast!
yes.....and, I am not casting aspersions upon Suzanne, re. the home being a mancave..I was pointing to the animal trophy heads hanging about...not her decorating, I would think...and simply the financial cost. Did she really intend to sink her entire inheritance into brick and mortar? The Morphews doubled their investment in housing, though the size of the family was the same...In fact, its a bit puzzling why buy such a big house when the daughters would soon be out on their own, leaving just a couple? Of course, there's grand kids to visit, etc...but.....double from 800k to 1.6mil? I just see Barry projecting his desires upon Suzanne, as you alluded to vis-a-vis the grandiose house...What other grandiose commitments did Barry rope Suzanne into?
 
  • #869
I doubt the defense even touches the bleach issue....they would just ignore it as "meh"....they could explain it away in either the hotel or the house...but not both, imo...because Barry is the only common denominator.
Sure they could explain the home…if he had just charged the hot tub and left the sliders open. The hot tub is just outside the great room up next to the house.
 
  • #870
Just to be crystal clear, all talk of DV is complete speculation across the board, right? It pops up all the time but I think people have told themselves a story here because its been a year and we still have basically no actual evidence.

Trying to catch up so my apologies if this has already been mentioned. However, in the amended complaint against Barry https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...8/21CR78 Morphew Amended Complaint 051821.pdf it states in bold, caps, right across the top, before the list of charges "DOMESTIC VIOLENCE".

I know it was discussed at length at the time the complaint was amended. So no, the discussion of DV is not at all complete speculation. I'm still unsure exactly why it's listed this way, but I suspect there's enough evidence (circumstancial or actual) uncovered in this investigation for that to be listed on the amended complaint.

jmo
 
  • #871
I’m guessing the fingerprints on the pen revealed who owned the pen. Regardless, of who owned it, my guess is it will work against BM, and that’s what matters most!

MOO With regard to that man-cave of a home, Melinda assured us that Suzanne chose the home and loved it. For me, the problem with that is that Suzanne said this well before she realized how emotionally and psychologically abused she was. Manipulators like BM have a way of making you believe you want what they want. Then it appears to others that they are giving you a choice. Also, for Suzanne the move to CO was a positive move if infidelity was a problem back in IN. Her goal was to save her marriage and the man she loved and as the “good/subservient” wife she needed to make him “happy” so that he would love her again as he once did. That would also mean loving the house he was hinting at. Unfortunately, the love train left the station in IN for BM and he had a one-way ticket. When I think of that card/note that he produced to show how “in love” she was with him, I want to slap him across that leathered face. That was a desperate plea from Suzanne attempting to win him back, wanting him to love her the way she loved him. What a sick move for him to use that the way he did.

Like all of you, I can’t wait for the prelim and the AA. I want to know everything he doesn’t want us to know :). Really hoping there are no delays in the forecast!
is a spy pen detectable to an unsuspecting person that it is more than an ink pen?
What little I know about spy pens...it appears that they actually do write as pens should. Could it be placed on a desk...someone then picks it up and starts using it...while recording is going on incognito?
 
  • #872
Sure they could explain the home…if he had just charged the hot tub and left the sliders open. The hot tub is just outside the great room up next to the house.
Yikes. Would that mean their home would frequently smell of bleach?
 
  • #873
Yikes. Would that mean their home would frequently smell of bleach?
Sure could. Depends on the person maintaining and how they treat and what they use. I have experienced stinky hotels that have indoor pools and stinky hot tubs. Point is in my opinion the prosecution will want to avoid evidence that is easy to counter and some of what we chat about will not be used at trial.
 
  • #874
Trying to catch up so my apologies if this has already been mentioned. However, in the amended complaint against Barry https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases of interest/21CR78/21CR78 Morphew Amended Complaint 051821.pdf it states in bold, caps, right across the top, before the list of charges "DOMESTIC VIOLENCE".

I know it was discussed at length at the time the complaint was amended. So no, the discussion of DV is not at all complete speculation. I'm still unsure exactly why it's listed this way, but I suspect there's enough evidence (circumstancial or actual) uncovered in this investigation for that to be listed on the amended complaint.

jmo

I guess it's been a while so I'll add this refresher about Colorado Law and DV:

Domestic violence in Colorado is not treated as an independent crime. Rather, DV is a sentencing enhancement. It increases the punishment for any offense against current or former spouses or dating partners (i.e., intimate relationships).

Since DV is an enhancement, the punishment depends on the underlying charge. The judge may order that the defendant be evaluated and complete a DV treatment program. The judge may also extend the restraining order.

Colorado is a mandatory arrest state, which means police must arrest anyone they have probable cause to believe committed domestic violence (* i.e, assault, stalking, harassment, child abuse, sexual contact, menacing, false imprisonment, elder abuse, etc.). It does not matter if the alleged victims recant or wish not to press charges. And while DV charges are pending, defendants will have a protection order taken out against them.

Domestic violence enhancement can apply to any criminal charge or municipal ordinance violation. Even crimes against pets or property:

Example: Jeff bashes his ex-boyfriend’s Rex’s car windows. Jeff could then face charges for criminal mischief (CRS 18-4-501) for damaging the car. And since Rex and Jeff used to date, the prosecutor would also bring a DV enhancement against Jeff.

DV charge always triggers a mandatory protection order. While the order is active, the defendant may not have alcohol and must avoid the accuser.

Violating a protective order (CRS 18-6-803.5) in a criminal case is a class 1 misdemeanor. The penalty is:
  • 6 – 18 months in jail, and/or
  • $500 – $5,000 in fines.3
Colorado Domestic Violence Laws - A Defense Lawyer's Guide

ETA: add examples of 8 crimes* which commonly include DV enhancement
 
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  • #875
Ok, so I have a question for anyone who has more knowledge of the legal system. Specifically when charging someone with a crime. This is literally going to sound insane so don’t laugh. It has been bugging me and I need clarification. Here goes… so we know there are DV charges. And we now know of a spy pen and perhaps a journal. This is hypothetical, but what IF SM wanted to disappear herself? And that her daughters knew. That would explain why there were no pleas or searches or actually anything from them. My question is this, since we know nothing of any evidence found, how concrete (oh god, for lack of a better example,) does the evidence have to be to charge Murder 1??? Pretty solid right?? Let me just say I know this scenario is not true, but what they have must be incredibly incriminating right? TIA and JMO
 
  • #876
I’m guessing the fingerprints on the pen revealed who owned the pen. Regardless, of who owned it, my guess is it will work against BM, and that’s what matters most!

MOO With regard to that man-cave of a home, Melinda assured us that Suzanne chose the home and loved it. For me, the problem with that is that Suzanne said this well before she realized how emotionally and psychologically abused she was. Manipulators like BM have a way of making you believe you want what they want. Then it appears to others that they are giving you a choice. Also, for Suzanne the move to CO was a positive move if infidelity was a problem back in IN. Her goal was to save her marriage and the man she loved and as the “good/subservient” wife she needed to make him “happy” so that he would love her again as he once did. That would also mean loving the house he was hinting at. Unfortunately, the love train left the station in IN for BM and he had a one-way ticket. When I think of that card/note that he produced to show how “in love” she was with him, I want to slap him across that leathered face. That was a desperate plea from Suzanne attempting to win him back, wanting him to love her the way she loved him. What a sick move for him to use that the way he did.

Like all of you, I can’t wait for the prelim and the AA. I want to know everything he doesn’t want us to know :). Really hoping there are no delays in the forecast!
"Unfortunately, the love train left the station in IN for BM"
I truly believe this statement in that BM was moving on and quickly. I'm the one who feels BM began a murder plot after Suzanne inherited the $600k.
BM is all of that you've written plus the most wicked manipulator of his children. We may discover that BM had his entire family tiptoeing on eggshells for quite some time. No one willingly fights the bear.
 
  • #877
I’m sure Barry is paying for tech people to comb through every byte of evidence. I would want the best tech in Colorado on the prosecution’s team. You don’t want evidence thrown out on technicalities.

BBM:

The DA's office has both CBI and FBI tech experts assisting them.
It doesn't get any better than that.

Both agencies have done stellar work in past/current Colorado cases I've followed.*
Unfortunately, owing to Judge Murphy's questionable decision to keep the AA veiled in a cloak of secrecy, we can't yet see what the LE digital forensic experts have discovered.

What we DO know is that the DA has amassed more than 10,000 pages of discovery.

Those pages aren't blank.

JMO.

*see AAs in Gannon Stauch and Kelsey Berreth investigations
 
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  • #878
Any speculation on whether TN, CC or the bike shop owner will be key witnesses for the prosecution? I say yes.
 
  • #879
Ok, so I have a question for anyone who has more knowledge of the legal system. Specifically when charging someone with a crime. This is literally going to sound insane so don’t laugh. It has been bugging me and I need clarification. Here goes… so we know there are DV charges. And we now know of a spy pen and perhaps a journal. This is hypothetical, but what IF SM wanted to disappear herself? And that her daughters knew. That would explain why there were no pleas or searches or actually anything from them. My question is this, since we know nothing of any evidence found, how concrete (oh god, for lack of a better example,) does the evidence have to be to charge Murder 1??? Pretty solid right?? Let me just say I know this scenario is not true, but what they have must be incredibly incriminating right? TIA and JMO

The DA's Office knows they only get one bite at the apple, i.e., double jeopardy.

They would not bring charges in a no-body case forward for prosecution without rock-solid evidence that SM was murdered.

So, yes, the case they have will be incredibly damning against BM.

JMO.
 
  • #880
Any speculation on whether TN, CC or the bike shop owner will be key witnesses for the prosecution? I say yes.
Hoping Mrs TN chimes in as well
 
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