Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #65 *ARREST*

[Love Never Fails]

Not knowing the specifics of the evidence does not negate the existence of that evidence.

10k pages of police reports, are certainly not blank pages.

Hundreds of hours of audio and video would presumably contain evidence (1 terabyte can store 500 hours of video alone).

Can you even imagine 1 terabyte? And yet a person could think there is zero evidence? I guess CBI, FBI, the Sheriff had nothing else to do but record some movies in their “spare” time.

 

[CGray123]

I believe it would be illegal for them to do so, so hopefully the two of them are familiar with defending themselves against possible criminal proceedings. And it would be SO easy to figure out, because any money left over in that account is subject to various legal claims (including claims from the daughters in future). While Barry once had full control of his wife's money, if he skips on bail, he loses that control. If the lawyers spend all of it (which they will, IMO), they get to keep it. But if they don't, Barry doesn't get it - victims of his crimes will get it.

Or any creditors. A lawyer who facilitated Barry's escape to Costa Rica by illegally forwarding funds to him would be in very hot water indeed.

You're right. BM is unlikely to retain much of the family fortune regardless of the outcome. By the time bail could be set, he will have incurred maybe $100,000 in earned attorney fees and costs.

On top of that, bail alone is probably beyond his personal means. He'd likely have to pay a bondsman $150,000.00 (a nonrefundable fee) just to get out if the judge agreed to set bail. So, $250,000 gone by the end of August if he gets out.

If he then absconded, the bondsman would diligently try to recover the forfeited amount (Say, $1.5 million) from any of BM's assets, including the law firm trust remainder. This alone would prevent the firm (and the bank, for that matter) from doing what the law would (MOO) otherwise require, even if the victims of his crimes don't pursue their remedies.

Maybe BM already has accounts outside the country that would make it difficult, but his creation of those accounts would provide evidence of intent to flee and undermine his argument that the judge should set bail.

As many have said, it will be an interesting month for all following the case.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I don't entirely disagree with what RumorMonger has posted. People do project their own feelings, history, emotions and people do "make up their minds" with very little information which can be perplexing to people who make decisions not on emotions generally. The expression in social media is scroll and roll, which I did through anything related to peanut butter or tongue in cheek misspellings of Barry Morphew's name, but I particularly like this forum because people are more thoughtful and tolerant of varying opinions and genuinely curious about discussions the legalities. I don't have any vested interest in the outcome of this particular trial other than to ensure that LE didn't become blindered and that the wrong person is running around free. And honestly, once they strip out everything that isn't admissible, isn't an admissible prior bad act or character assassination and it comes down to the facts of the case I will be very interested to see how the prosecution fares and what the evidential foundation of their case is as it's currently not anything we know. I have no problem imaging the volume of notes from all the so called "tips" that were called in on this case over the course of a year so the "size" of the files didn't really tell me much and we already know probably alot is background or hearsay. I'm sure it was interesting reading but probably not too far off what we're all been exposed to following this case.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Thank you for making additional comments about evidence. Unfortunately, nothing you said refutes my point. Presumably, yes, there is evidence. We don't have access to it. People that are coming to conclusions on any of the topics that I originally mentioned are telling themselves stories.

I tend to see it as folks filling in the blanks based on what has been said, what hasn't been said, actions of LE, etc. Sure it's speculation but that's what we do here - discuss the case based on what we know, what we don't know, float some ideas, some speculation (usually based on both past cases where things were similar, and/or our own personal experiences in similar circumstances), and discuss whether or not it's a logical conclusion based on what little info we have.

What really strikes me, is how often folks here are utterly spot on with their assessments, based on SO little factual info at the time. There's some really smart folks here.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

In terms of looking at the facts of the case, these are undeniably:

Suzanne Morphew has disappeared

Barry Morphew has been arrested for her murder, Murder 1

Barry Morphew has been denied bail and remains detained

The legal system will ensure Barry Morphew gets a fair trial

I don't entirely disagree with what RumorMonger has posted. People do project their own feelings, history, emotions and people do "make up their minds" with very little information which can be perplexing to people who make decisions not on emotions generally. The expression in social media is scroll and roll, which I did through anything related to peanut butter or tongue in cheek misspellings of Barry Morphew's name, but I particularly like this forum because people are more thoughtful and tolerant of varying opinions and genuinely curious about discussions the legalities. I don't have any vested interest in the outcome of this particular trial other than to ensure that LE didn't become blindered and that the wrong person is running around free. And honestly, once they strip out everything that isn't admissible, isn't an admissible prior bad act or character assassination and it comes down to the facts of the case I will be very interested to see how the prosecution fares and what the evidential foundation of their case is as it's currently not anything we know. I have no problem imaging the volume of notes from all the so called "tips" that were called in on this case over the course of a year so the "size" of the files didn't really tell me much and we already know probably alot is background or hearsay. I'm sure it was interesting reading but probably not too far off what we're all been exposed to following this case.

None of us know what is contained within the huge file but I'm going to venture a guess it is way more than background, hearsay and interesting reading. And tips called in. I think the legal system would be very ropey if these were enough to secure an arrest, and denial of bail.

JMO

 

[LandManatee]

Can you even imagine 1 terabyte? And yet a person could think there is zero evidence? I guess CBI, FBI, the Sheriff had nothing else to do but record some movies in their “spare” time.

I was watching a segment on the case of Grace Millane out of New Zeland. They happened to mention they had terabytes of evidence and it turned out to be mostly CCTV HD video evidence (the most crisp and clear security camera footage I have ever seen btw. Pretty impressive.) They pretty much had the video timeline of events before and after Grace’s murder documented in extremely fine detail, leaving no doubt about who murdered her. They only recently released the almost 1 hour footage they compiled together for the trial. To say it’s compelling and sickening at the same time to watch the actions of the monster who killed her is putting it mildly.

It made me think of the Morphew case and I remain hopeful that if there is also terabytes of information/evidence that the investigative team gathered and prosecution team will present in court, then it’s likely the CCTV footage they obtained is making up a good portion of their evidence as well, just like in the Millane case. Scanned evidence image files or pictures alone wouldn’t take up that much space.

I hope the CCTV footage will show Barry’s indisputable nefarious actions around the dates of 5/8/20 - 5/11/20. I would imagine at minimum they have him on video at/from the following locations: Dept of Trans, Ring/home security cameras in Mayfield, Holiday Inn, Walmart in Broomsfield and surrounding businesses plus businesses in Salida, like the store chlorine tablets were purchased from, restaurants, gas stations, etc. IMO MOO

 

[kshultz06082]

That’s definitely possible, as it would explain the second search. I don’t think that’s what happened though.

Suzanne going to these lengths would probably have been for a compelling reason, and I can’t imagine she wouldn’t have told a close friend that she was making recordings.

I also believe this wasn’t her idea, as I doubt many people would even think to use a device like this. I think whoever suggested this to her also knew what she was doing.

These sorts of things probably were revealed early on the investigation, likely before the first search warrant. I’m just glad we won’t have to wait long for the answers.

I think the person that was recorded on the spy pen is the same person that LE was referring to when they asked to hear from anyone that interacted with SM on the 5 apps (Viber, fb, etc). I think they only had this person's voice to go by to identify them. If the app was one that allows a certain level of anonymity, even if LE had SMs phone, it may not have helped to identify the individual. And since we don't know who this person is, nor the content of the pen recordings, it's hard to guess why this "witness" is consequential or the recordings of this person would be considered crucial or critical. More info needed to even begin to speculate, but IMO, Barry is not the witness referred to by the defense. JMO

 

[Scootie98]

I was watching a segment on the case of Grace Millane out of New Zeland. They happened to mention they had terabytes of evidence and it turned out to be mostly CCTV HD video evidence (the most crisp and clear security camera footage I have ever seen btw. Pretty impressive.) They pretty much had the video timeline of events before and after Grace’s murder documented in extremely fine detail, leaving no doubt about who murdered her. They only recently released the almost 1 hour footage they compiled together for the trial. To say it’s compelling and sickening at the same time to watch the actions of the monster who killed her is putting it mildly.

It made me think of the Morphew case and I remain hopeful that if there is also terabytes of information/evidence that the investigative team gathered and prosecution team will present in court, then it’s likely the CCTV footage they obtained is making up a good portion of their evidence as well, just like in the Millane case. Scanned evidence image files or pictures alone wouldn’t take up that much space.

I hope the CCTV footage will show Barry’s indisputable nefarious actions around the dates of 5/8/20 - 5/11/20. I would imagine at minimum they have him on video at/from the following locations: Dept of Trans, Ring/home security cameras in Mayfield, Holiday Inn, Walmart in Broomsfield and surrounding businesses plus businesses in Salida, like the store chlorine tablets were purchased from, restaurants, gas stations, etc. IMO MOO

Not sure what a terabyte is....If any poster can project in layman's terms what that means....for example, is 5 full motion pictures a terabyte? Just some context to relate to evidence would help if one here understands it. I gather that video footage is likely a big chunk of it....but motion activated cameras only catch moments of activity, normally. Just an area of ignorance for me.

 

[Seattle1]

Not sure what a terabyte is....If any poster can project in layman's terms what that means....for example, is 5 full motion pictures a terabyte? Just some context to relate to evidence would help if one here understands it. I gather that video footage is likely a big chunk of it....but motion activated cameras only catch moments of activity, normally. Just an area of ignorance for me.

Per dropbox.com relative to 1 TB storage capacity:

1 TB gives you the option of storing roughly: 250,000 photos taken with a 12MP camera; 250 movies or 500 hours of HD video; or. 6.5 million document pages, commonly stored as Office files, PDFs, and presentations.

 

[Scootie98]

Per dropbox.com relative to 1 TB storage capacity:

1 TB gives you the option of storing roughly: 250,000 photos taken with a 12MP camera; 250 movies or 500 hours of HD video; or. 6.5 million document pages, commonly stored as Office files, PDFs, and presentations.

Very informative....much Thanks.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I think you can find a 1 TB thumb drive these days, but my guess it's on an external hard drive and they may not have filled the entire drive. However if they send over every document, every note from every interview and follow up to tips, images, etc. etc. over the course of a year...that is alot of data. Doesn't speak to the quality of the data, just the amassing of such.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Per dropbox.com relative to 1 TB storage capacity:

1 TB gives you the option of storing roughly: 250,000 photos taken with a 12MP camera; 250 movies or 500 hours of HD video; or. 6.5 million document pages, commonly stored as Office files, PDFs, and presentations.

and thanks

 

[10ofRods]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> I want to know how much the transcripts to the prelim and the trial will actually cost. Hopefully, I'll be satiated by the few reporters who are allowed in, but I'd really like to see the entire transcripts on this one.

I can only imagine what has gone on in Judge's chambers up until now. The Judge has likely seen or heard about every theory and piece of available prosecutorial evidence - some of which he's said, "Uh oh, you're not using that," and the rest will be played out in the prelim.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I was watching a segment on the case of Grace Millane out of New Zeland. They happened to mention they had terabytes of evidence and it turned out to be mostly CCTV HD video evidence (the most crisp and clear security camera footage I have ever seen btw. Pretty impressive.) They pretty much had the video timeline of events before and after Grace’s murder documented in extremely fine detail, leaving no doubt about who murdered her. They only recently released the almost 1 hour footage they compiled together for the trial. To say it’s compelling and sickening at the same time to watch the actions of the monster who killed her is putting it mildly.

It made me think of the Morphew case and I remain hopeful that if there is also terabytes of information/evidence that the investigative team gathered and prosecution team will present in court, then it’s likely the CCTV footage they obtained is making up a good portion of their evidence as well, just like in the Millane case. Scanned evidence image files or pictures alone wouldn’t take up that much space.

I hope the CCTV footage will show Barry’s indisputable nefarious actions around the dates of 5/8/20 - 5/11/20. I would imagine at minimum they have him on video at/from the following locations: Dept of Trans, Ring/home security cameras in Mayfield, Holiday Inn, Walmart in Broomsfield and surrounding businesses plus businesses in Salida, like the store chlorine tablets were purchased from, restaurants, gas stations, etc. IMO MOO

Ah, good news! We will know soon! Thank you.

 

[Pyrite]

I’m curious about discovery. By sending the 1 TB of data, the DA is sending all the data they found, applicable to the case or not for the prosecution, since the defense may find something to defend Barry that the prosecution will not be using. Does the prosecution have to annotate what in that terabyte of data they plan on using to prosecute BM, so the defense can prepare efficiently? Or if sending 1 TB of data unannotated, are they using a ‘flood the defense’ strategy, hoping to overwhelm the defense with irrelevant data so they might miss the relevant.

 

[10ofRods]

I think the person that was recorded on the spy pen is the same person that LE was referring to when they asked to hear from anyone that interacted with SM on the 5 apps (Viber, fb, etc). I think they only had this person's voice to go by to identify them. If the app was one that allows a certain level of anonymity, even if LE had SMs phone, it may not have helped to identify the individual. And since we don't know who this person is, nor the content of the pen recordings, it's hard to guess why this "witness" is consequential or the recordings of this person would be considered crucial or critical. More info needed to even begin to speculate, but IMO, Barry is not the witness referred to by the defense. JMO

Here's some speculation (complete speculation), based on your speculation. Let's say the voice on the pen was indeed unknown to LE (so it wasn't Barry).

What if it was a private investigator? What if, after figuring out who it was, that person is the consequential witness? LE might still play the person's own voice back to them, to jog their memory and to ask what else they knew.

I still think it was likely Barry's voice (and I have other theories about who might have been communicating with Suzanne via app). But I have theories about everything, so big grain of salt.

 

[Whitneyh]

In my opinion,
Super curious to see what his defense will be I think he would have been better off with them finding her body. I think his only avenue now is saying she ran off which I don’t think will fair well for him. Js

 

[MassGuy]

In my opinion,
Super curious to see what his defense will be I think he would have been better off with them finding her body. I think his only avenue now is saying she ran off which I don’t think will fair well for him. Js

We’ll obviously have a better idea of what avenues are available for the defense, following the preliminary hearing.

I think it’s likely to be a bit of a mud throwing mix, with multiple alternative suspects and the defense alluding to Suzanne taking off.

 

[NWLady]

Here's my opinion on things being said about BM. I, and everyone else, have a right to our opinion. Whether it be here on WS, or by writing a book or a letter, or saying it directly face-to-face with one person only or thousands of people. And furthermore, I don't really care if someone likes or dislikes my opinion, because if I want to say it, then I'm going to say it. It's that simple.

Also, everything I have said about BM on here (or anywhere else for that matter), I would have no problem whatsoever in saying it directly to BM if I was given the chance.

So, to sum up the point of my post, I don't care whether he (BM) or anyone else doesn't like what my opinion of him is and actually, I hope he (BM) reads here to see what is being said, but if that's not possible, then I sure hope that someone lets him know what is being said, which I'm guessing probably is the case.

But, after all, we all have the right to our own opinions, do we not?

 

[ar3593]

I tend to see it as folks filling in the blanks based on what has been said, what hasn't been said, actions of LE, etc. Sure it's speculation but that's what we do here - discuss the case based on what we know, what we don't know, float some ideas, some speculation (usually based on both past cases where things were similar, and/or our own personal experiences in similar circumstances), and discuss whether or not it's a logical conclusion based on what little info we have.

What really strikes me, is how often folks here are utterly spot on with their assessments, based on SO little factual info at the time. There's some really smart folks here.

@Ontario Mom, my sentiments exactly, so impressed by the minds in this forum..a LOT of very sharp people!! Love you all