Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #68 *ARREST*

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  • #281
The whole 2:47 am or pm thing is so frustrating!
This is why I only use 24-hour clock military timing.

You'd think that LE and courts of law would as well.

But then again, I s'pose there'd probably be even more confusion amongst those who don't grasp the 24 hour correlation well enough.

jmoo soz
 
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  • #282
So far I’m not seeing the reason for sealing the AA to protect the girls - it’s an affair so what else is in that warrant ? I’m truly astonished that the DA/LE team kept this under wraps all this time …
JMO
Doesn't that make sense? If the judge's concern was that there was excessive information in the AA that he wasn't sure was relevant to probable cause but could lead to harassment, you wouldn't really expect to see it presented at the preliminary hearing since it's not central to the prosecution's case.
 
  • #283
Did Melinda Morphew in one of her interviews suggest that Barry had had affairs in Indiana prior to their move to Colorado? It was the reason they wanted to move and make a fresh start. Am I misremembering here?
 
  • #284
Her "ray of sunshine" was a nice, safe, married father of six. Did she deserve happiness? Yes. But her choices had the potential to hurt many people & now they have. I think she might even own that were she here today. He was SAFE - they weren't going to run away to Ecuador. And finding a new partner would never satisfy what was missing - a sense of her own agency, which she had yielded to her husband for most or all of her adult life.

Not victim-blaming. Just pointing out that such "happiness" is shallow. I would want much, much more for Suzanne.
As always, JMOO.

That’s all true. But it still doesn’t change the fact that the affair was a ray of sunshine in the midst of a lot of bleakness for her. She was probably feeling pretty desperate.

I start with the premise that one capable of murder is evil and has the ability to make the lives of his or her loved ones, miserable. When we add in the facts we are hearing about his abusiveness and control, that makes it all the more true, for me.

Domestic violence is the issue in this case, IMO. Because to me, it’s that which often prevents a person from getting out and seeking a deeper and fuller happiness and a safe life apart from the abuse.

There are so many layers to DV. The fear it causes. The feeing that there is no way to escape. The beaten down self-concept that makes a victim believe he or she isn’t worthy of something truly good.

She sought a ray of sunshine and she got it. I’m glad she had at least that before her life was taken from her.
 
  • #285
That’s just not normal criminal behavior. We see that in bad movies, but not in real life.

Barry didn’t have a great deal of time to work with, and his priority was getting rid of Suzanne’s body, and building an alibi.

I do think the bleach is going to factor in however, just maybe not in the way we imagined. I think he may have used it to destroy any trace of Suzanne in the back of his vehicle or something.

I was just thinking, he being a true-crime podcast fan, and all. He'd be smug, and toss red herrings.

I know, sorry. I'm just still sleep deprived! Like jet-lag and hangover combined!
 
  • #286
Did Melinda Morphew in one of her interviews suggest that Barry had had affairs in Indiana prior to their move to Colorado? It was the reason they wanted to move and make a fresh start. Am I misremembering here?

That's definitely the impression I got!

jmoo
 
  • #287
They talked for hours on end!! That’s called an emotional connection. Not a shallow one. Mo
But, I, too, would want more for her than a married father of 6 sneaking around and afraid to come forward. 10000% with you
I agree that they must have had a deep emotional connection. No doubt it filled a need for both of them. But true happiness (fulfillment) is unlikely to have been attainable in such a complicated scenario of "yours, mine & ours".
 
  • #288
Wonder if they think it was 2nd degree, but the fact that he disposed of her body pushes it up to 1st degree.

Contemplating a crime of passion type of scenario I was confused by the first degree charge. But upon reviewing CO homicide charges it appears that first degree murder doesn’t have to be premeditated. It can just be “knowing”. Second degree in CO is reserved for total unintentional killings.
 
  • #289
This is the state's case. The state called these witnesses. The state somehow thinks this is important.

One rule in litigation is to get ahead of your bad facts. The state may have thought they wanted to introduce this up front to get it over with so the defense can't do an "ah ha" later on.

Or they may be setting this up for motive.

Suzanne is texting her boyfriend at 2:11pm. Barry walks in and sees her texting, grabs her phone, reads through the messages and flies into a rage. Cue their evidence of his destruction of evidence over the next few hours.
Just gonna say...

This case is literally crazy.

Not very often is it found the victim (is she in Ecuador? o_O) is the one having the affair.

Cheaters often suspect their SO’s of cheating, don’t know if it’s a guilt thing or?

She literally went and got a spy pen. And.... got NOTHING. They stated he wasn’t having an affair!

I don’t know why I’m leaning all weird but this is WEIRD!

I’m very blindsided by today. The media portrayed her as a victim and cancer survivor. But WHO doesn’t tell their BEST FRIEND what’s really going on?

Suzanne. She was secretive even to her best friend.

Kinda makes me think she was the narcissistic sociopath. Not trying to victim blame but...

It was stated he didn’t know about the affair! What’s the motive?

Cannot wait til tomorrow. I might delete this post then ...
MOO Not having an affair when she was trying to find out. Her suspicions were spring 2018.
 
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I'm not as shocked that SM was having an affair as I am that BM wasn't. MOO.

Just because he wasn’t having an ‘affair’, doesn’t mean he wasn’t unfaithful…. Still plenty of room for his shenanigans to be revealed.
 
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Did Melinda Morphew in one of her interviews suggest that Barry had had affairs in Indiana prior to their move to Colorado? It was the reason they wanted to move and make a fresh start. Am I misremembering here?
I believe that Melinda said that Suzanne suspected that Barry was having an affair. I got the impression that she did not confront Barry about her suspicions. IMO
 
  • #294
I was just thinking, he being a true-crime podcast fan, and all. He'd be smug, and toss red herrings.

I know, sorry. I'm just still sleep deprived! Like jet-lag and hangover combined!
That true crime thing shocked me. People have been talking about that rumor for a long time, and I never bought it for a second.

The fact that he’s been charged with first degree murder though, means that he didn’t listen closely enough.

If was probably some knock off version, “Fornesic Flies.”
 
  • #295
I could agree with all you said except that Suzanne did not find happiness. She found death instead. And I do not believe for one moment JL would have left his life, his wife, and his kids for her. He even hid while authorities really needed to find him. Suzanne’s life was sad and tragic but she was not living some romantic dream.

You don’t think BM would’ve killed her if she left and then began a relationship? Or if she just left?

I do.

The affair didn’t cause her to be murdered. A controlling narcissist did.

But she did have happiness with that dude, no matter how fleeting it would’ve ended up being.
 
  • #296
Double post.
 
  • #297
I don’t think it would be shady at all. This is a prelim. The judge decides whether there is probable cause to believe he committed a crime. Her conduct isn’t relevant as part of the narrative, at this stage...unless it IS.

You have to remember that evidence at a prelim is a skeleton of what will be shown at trial. So unless it is key to probable cause, it’s hard to think of another reason for them bringing it up. Unless they just want to get a potential jury pool to get used to the idea so they can get over any dramatic, irrational impulses to judge her into the bad guy and BM as the victim.
Agree.
Reason to lead with this would be that BM knew she was really going to leave, whether he knew of affair or just felt her resolve.

To get it out there so it not from E&N.
 
  • #298
I posted LS’s Live Recap from tonight .Just realized there’s a Part 1. ( the stream froze up and she started a new one ).
I posted part 2 earlier.

 
  • #299
That true crime thing shocked me. People have been talking about that rumor for a long time, and I never bought it for a second.

The fact that he’s been charged with first degree murder though, means that he didn’t listen closely enough.

If was probably some knock off version, “Fornesic Flies.”
The fact that Suzanne’s SPY PEN confirmed what his hunting buddies had said about him being a true crime fan truly is beyond my wildest imagination of what we’d learn.
 
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  • #300
I do wonder if Suzanne told him she was leaving him, maybe Friday night. Maybe this was common with them, they fought and then reconciled. She could have told she was having an affair even, and was leaving him for her new man. There is a story there that has to do with 2 doors opening on Barry’s truck when it left Puma Path, and only one opens when Barry returns. They have to have Suzanne’s cell moving along with that truck.

Is the hearing continuing tomorrow?
 
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