Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #72 *ARREST*

[Auntie Cipation]

They did ask... they requested all video from businesses and home security camera data be saved from May 8th thru May 12th. It was early on, but I don't know exactly when. It may have been too late for some to be saved depending on schedule of overwriting. Example: if they asked on the day she went missing, Sunday, what happens if some cameras were on a normal schedule of deleting or overwriting on Saturdays?

Agreed, but LE didn't actually *take* the video from the community to inspect, instead asking the public to hold it, and then never followed up if I recall. To me that's essentially the same as not collecting it in the first place.

My point was that rather than waiting until they knew the "who" and "when" they were searching for, they should collect it all so that it's available if needed to confirm/deny possible scenarios they didn't initially have in mind.

 

[BrownRice]

They should get JL to testify. <modsnip - nothing linked to support speculation> He regularly heard from her. Does that make sense?

See, that’s the huge issue I have with JLs character (putting aside being a philandering married father of 6). He had to have known intimate aspects of the M’s marriage and issues. Perhaps BM’s verbal/physical abuse. That would have been very helpful to investigators early on.

The true example of character is doing the right thing when nobody is watching. And most of the time it’s the most painful and hardest option. IMO, that tells me he wasn’t that invested in his relationship with SM.

JL DID NOTHING TO HELP FIND SUZANNE.

 

[Hair of the Dog]

IMO, Barry's comments about "drunk eyes" and "taking the edge off in the evening" were meant to plant the seed that Suzanne was a lush and it was a look and behavior that he, the long suffering husband, was used to seeing and mitigating.

IMO, Barry reached his peak in high school and intellectually and emotionally Suzanne outgrew him. The bully turned cry baby when confronted, everything bad always someone else's fault, buying "stuff" to create the illusion of wealth for others to envy.

IMO, Suzanne was waiting on the sale of the IN house to close so she could have access to enough $ to get set up in a new place and that is why she couldn't just get in her car and drive away, she was biding her time.

 

[nodamselindistress]

Maybe others had thoughts on this and I missed it. I’m trying to understand why, knowing abusive people in my past, she texted her sister on the 8th that she was tired of BMs instability and verbal/ physical abuse. At some point she tells him that they are done. Yet on the 9th he asks her about going on a hike. She asks where and he doesn’t respond. In my mind leave it at that…”thank god I don’t have to spend time with him”. Yet she texts again and asks if he wants to meet up. He says no that he is coming home. I thought maybe she wanted things to appear normal but the daughters were not there….no audience to appear normal for. So why even entertain the idea?

My thoughts are she was hoping for that "civil" conversation to happen where they could discuss things calmly. I am guessing that perhaps they had previously had good times hiking together.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

MOO I thinks she watched her p's and q's. In an earlier text she said anything would set him off.

Plus she wanted to handle things civilly. Maybe she thought walking and talking would help.

Agree on both points.

When my relationship ended (admittedly amicably), we remained friends for years after. But -- Every. Single. Time he asked if I wanted to meet for lunch, go for a walk, visit, etc -- my mind hoped he wanted to have a heart-to-heart talk that would make things right between us. I rarely declined his invites for that reason. It took me years to realize it wasn't going to happen and I didn't need to waste my time. Sigh.

 

[genuineusa77]

See, that’s the huge issue I have with JLs character (putting aside being a philandering married father of 6). He had to have known intimate aspects of the M’s marriage and issues. Perhaps BM’s verbal/physical abuse. That would have been very helpful to investigators early on.

The true example of character is doing the right thing when nobody is watching. And most of the time it’s the most painful and hardest option. IMO, that tells me he wasn’t that invested in his relationship with SM.

JL DID NOTHING TO HELP FIND SUZANNE.

JL also said he was nervous about his family and job.

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

Do sportsmen/women travel along that river? Or is it too shallow? Private property?

MOO[/QUOTE]

Watch it, Buddy Teche! Not all of us are killers of humans and animals.

I prefer Gulf shrimps, fried or grilled, but if you know folks that dine on scavenger critters, that's alright with me.

Did Barry prepare his prey for the grille or did he prefer to watch them suffer in his many traps? That may be why he kept everything on his property under his watchful eyes by maintaining cameras everywhere.

Barry is counting on Salida residents to have sympathy because his wife sought a man, whom she previously knew, who showed her proper attention. Infidelity doesn't mean the same as it did when she married Barry. Today's audience is much more sympathizing to the many reasons that led her into loving arms.

This is why I tell you that he planned this kill before moving to Salida.

The DA wants to prove it was passion in the moment but I disagree. He wanted her money. Her mother was married to a Dr at the time. He knew there'd be riches.

Barry planned for everything except not being believed by LEO for he was trained by a wife who agreed with her man until the moment when she didn't. So, he killed her.

The truth will slowly unfold. I solemnly wish for time in my schedule that permitted a move to the area for this trial. I'd pull down my mask so he could see my smile.

actually the DA does NOT want to prove passion, as that would actually reduce the charge. If they charged first degree I think they are trying to lay the foundation for deliberate premeditation. If BM had the malice aforethought to get tranquilizer darts and to take other steps to plan, that is textbook murder one. MOO.

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

I still feel like BM did something or hid something in the creek in the property. Would explain his soaking wet appearance when Draper ran into him. Also would explain the “dead Turkey” caper. The creek could throw the dogs off a scent. Will be interesting to see how days 3 and 4 of the PH go.

 

[Boxer]

Agreed, but LE didn't actually *take* the video from the community to inspect, instead asking the public to hold it, and then never followed up if I recall. To me that's essentially the same as not collecting it in the first place.

My point was that rather than waiting until they knew the "who" and "when" they were searching for, they should collect it all so that it's available if needed to confirm/deny possible scenarios they didn't initially have in mind.

Do you know they didn't get what they needed from the areas they needed it from?
They don't publicize their collection.

 

[BrownRice]

JL also said he was nervous about his family and job.

Oh for sure, I understand his dilemma. And I never wish to be in that situation. I’m sure it was agonizing. But he chose his reputation and fear over SM’s safety. Of course, she was already dead (Moo) but nobody knew that.

 

[Truecolors]

See, that’s the huge issue I have with JLs character (putting aside being a philandering married father of 6). He had to have known intimate aspects of the M’s marriage and issues. Perhaps BM’s verbal/physical abuse. That would have been very helpful to investigators early on.

The true example of character is doing the right thing when nobody is watching. And most of the time it’s the most painful and hardest option. IMO, that tells me he wasn’t that invested in his relationship with SM.

JL DID NOTHING TO HELP FIND SUZANNE.

I’m certain he wasn’t that invested in the relationship, but neither was Suzanne, IMO. She picked him, for a reason. She reached out to a man who was married, had 4 kids, and lived states away. He was a “safe” choice for her.

I’m frustrated with JL for not alerting authorities when she was found to be missing. He had a responsibility to do so, imo. Not as a boyfriend, but as a human. Personal interests (his marriage, his job, his kids, her kids, and possibly his perception of her wishes) stopped him from doing for her what he would likely do for a stranger—call the tip line and give them the information you have!

MOO

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Do you know they didn't get what they needed from the areas they needed it from?
They don't publicize their collection.

IIRC it was discussed on these threads, that LE's request to the public specifically asked folks to retain video but not submit it to them. On the thread, I recall us wondering how many video owners would even know how to do that. I can't immediately link to that discussion though.

They may have eventually collected "needed" video but that's kinda my point that LE lost the opportunity to see things on video that they didn't yet know they needed. (considering that there are multiple routes that may have been driven between given places, and multiple vehicles that may have been used).

MOO

 

[Hair of the Dog]

I am a little unclear about the state of Barry's truck when he returned to Salida from Broomfield; was it just the cab that was messy and full of trash or was it the bed too? If it was the bed too, what did he do with the trash while he was at the carwash? If he put it back, it would lead me to believe he was trying to obfuscate any odors/evidence that might remain post carwash. He was making plans to acquire a new truck in the days prior to Suzanne's disappearance. Was his truck leased and the lease was coming due or was he trying to put some distance between him and the truck? Was the deal he got on a new truck in IN significantly better than the deal he would have gotten in CO? When you factor in the time to drive back and forth to IN and the cost of fuel to do so, you have to wonder IMO.

 

[10ofRods]

I am a little unclear about the state of Barry's truck when he returned to Salida from Broomfield; was it just the cab that was messy and full of trash or was it the bed too? If it was the bed too, what did he do with the trash while he was at the carwash? If he put it back, it would lead me to believe he was trying to obfuscate any odors/evidence that might remain post carwash. He was making plans to acquire a new truck in the days prior to Suzanne's disappearance. Was his truck leased and the lease was coming due or was he trying to put some distance between him and the truck? Was the deal he got on a new truck in IN significantly better than the deal he would have gotten in CO? When you factor in the time to drive back and forth to IN and the cost of fuel to do so, you have to wonder IMO.

Where did we learn that Barry was making plans for a new truck prior to Suzanne's disappearance? I know it has been mentioned here that he did in fact get one - in Indiana, IIRC, but how do we know he was planning to do so already?

He needed to go to Indiana anyway, to consult an attorney and do paperwork regarding the Guardianship.

 

[DizzyB]

IIRC it was discussed on these threads, that LE's request to the public specifically asked folks to retain video but not submit it to them. On the thread, I recall us wondering how many video owners would even know how to do that. I can't immediately link to that discussion though.

They may have eventually collected "needed" video but that's kinda my point that LE lost the opportunity to see things on video that they didn't yet know they needed. (considering that there are multiple routes that may have been driven between given places, and multiple vehicles that may have been used).

MOO

Since the first request went out for private citizens to save their footage, I have been complaining about it. I particularly hated the “don’t call us, we’ll call you” part of their release. Thankfully there are places that don’t overwrite their videos. Poncha Market was a big miss for me. I would loved to have seen Barry digging through the trash there, in its entirety. You can’t expect everyone in the area to bone up on how to save files just in case. One would figure that if LE needed my footage, they would have come calling pretty early in the game. Or at least said give us a call if you need more information or maybe they could have set up a Dropbox or email address to send files to. The clips could have sat there.

 

[LandManatee]

Just a couple thoughts: MOO

1 - When LE opened the safe in the garage where BM claims he had $70k in cash, isn’t it customary for LE to photograph the safe contents before moving anything out of it and/or before bagging it as evidence? I feel BM’s theft accusations could easily be disproven based on the documented photographs or evidence that LE has. They could easily show there was no cash in the safe when it was opened.

2 - BM’s accusatory comment about SM having drunk eyes or suggesting she was drinking based on her last known proof of life photo he was shown, doesn’t hold weight because of her chemo treatments. There is no way she would have been able to consume any level of alcohol while on chemo meds.

MOO

 

[Boxer]

IIRC it was discussed on these threads, that LE's request to the public specifically asked folks to retain video but not submit it to them. On the thread, I recall us wondering how many video owners would even know how to do that. I can't immediately link to that discussion though.

They may have eventually collected "needed" video but that's kinda my point that LE lost the opportunity to see things on video that they didn't yet know they needed. (considering that there are multiple routes that may have been driven between given places, and multiple vehicles that may have been used).

MOO

MOO the appeal to save video is public. But then the public does not hear about the collection visits.
Stauch and Dulos cases show this. With Leticia Stauch, a single neighbors footage dominated the news and YT as he revealed the video from the day Gannon disappeared, but detectives had not just collected his video but also video from all the other neighbors, cameras down the street on the highways and from stores.

 

[Hair of the Dog]

Do you know they didn't get what they needed from the areas they needed it from?
They don't publicize their collection.

Good point @ Boxer. I think we were concerned about that in the Dulos case but it turned out they indeed had footage of Fotis pedaling along the route to Jennifer's home on his very unique bicycle.

 

[Truecolors]

Random question—

Has there been a memorial service for Suzanne?

 

[Boxer]

Good point @ Boxer. I think we were concerned about that in the Dulos case but it turned out they indeed had footage of Fotis pedaling along the route to Jennifer's home on his very unique bicycle.

And the truck he borrowed from his employee travelling to Caanan parking a few blocks away with an alternative route connected by paths to the house.