Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #72 *ARREST*

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  • #501
Have started typing up notes and came across this. I am sure it made it on a tweet, but wanted to make sure.

Spy pen: “relevant” as per Special Agent Kenneth Harris. They listened to the files on spy pen.
# Recording 1: Unintentional recording of radio when BM was driving F-350. News from 2/3/20 on radio. BM also listened to a/part of a Forensic Files episode were a woman went missing while riding her bike.

Now think about this.... Forensic Files would not be on the radio. With the poor reception in the area he would have had to have chosen that particular episode and downloaded it. Things that make you go hmmm....
 
  • #502
I'm thinking that it was on Friday, instead of Saturday, and the employee just mixed up the days. This is just a guess. LE should know when he was really there via phone and truck records. Just wish we knew...
I wonder how long the time gap was between the day Barry actually went into the Spa store and the day that the investigators interviewed the Spa owners.
 
  • #503
I hoping a jury will be repulsed & disgusted cause BM is a Chris Watts.
There may be no body ..but the evidence can conclude he selfishly not only ended her life but devalued, desecrated, probably mutilated her.

MOO
That backing up of the truck got to me.
These monsters.
 
  • #504
I wonder how long the time gap was between the day Barry actually went into the Spa store and the day that the investigators interviewed the Spa owners.
And I really did lose track of days during Covid. We always joked that it was one very long day…
 
  • #505
And I really did lose track of days during Covid. We always joked that it was one very long day…
For me too, Groundhog Day, everyday.
 
  • #506
I feel as though giving too much of what they want to say away in the preliminary would likely give the defense time to really go after whatever angle it is. Is it likely they want to be as general as possible now so they don't show too much? I feel these LE witnesses are there to just show the facts they uncovered. Most of it is so straight forward and not really open for interpretation. He said he was at xx location or doing xyz and his phone, truck gps, or video showed he was doing abc instead. He claimed x, but text messages show y. I can't wait to find out the specifics, but that isn't what is needed for these hearings. The defense is doing more it seems to me to convivence the judge these things aren't suspicious or odd. The prosecution isn't there to show how they think it happened exactly, just that there is evidence to show she was alive before Barry arrived home and no further proof of life after he did arrive home. If I recall, the defense has brought up more details beyond what the prosecution brought up in order to make her look bad and it has only made him look worse! LOL
I disagree that it made him seem worse because by pointing out the texts they showed that by all accounts they weren’t fighting to any degree that would be unexpected by one spouse who is asking for a divorce. I have seen friends rip each other in shreds from texts. It showed that in the days leading up Saturday afternoon life was pretty normal. They go for a walk and meet the cleaning person at the dumpster. They eat lunch together. Barry gets pizza one night. She reminds him to stop at the pool and spa store…I think that did nothing to make Barry seem worse or feel ominous. If anything they both felt like they were purposefully not getting into a fight by the civility…
 
  • #507
I missed seeing this detail about finding the bike.

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1424746051320352769?s=21

Deputy asked what paths Suzanne would take? Asks if she was an avid mountain biker? The deputy describes how the bike was found and Barry responded, "It may have flipped." The deputy asked people not to touch the bike with their hands.
 
  • #508
That has puzzled me, too, to read that SM sent an "I'm done" text to BM after all the time she supposedly worked with the domestic violence group at her church. Basically the first thing they tell you is that it's the most dangerous when you leave the abuser. Then, she tells him she's leaving when there's not a soul around, and she hasn't packed up and fled already? I don't understand this.

Seems to me that SM did not realize the danger she was in. She wouldn't be the first that did not take her own advice. I think she used her mother's experience as her guide on how mom determined to leave SM's dad (Gene), and how she would go about doing this -- setting money aside, etc. SM could not let her head go to where BM would disappear her. MOO

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  • #509
I am an avid reader, and not so much of a poster. Admittedly, I have not read every single post on this case though. Has anyone had the thought that the pings around the house after 2:47 could have been Barry running around inside the house gathering things he needed in order to take her somewhere to harm her? He could have tranquilized her in order to take her somewhere else to finish the deed?

Actually, this is exactly what I think (and everyone I talk to IRL thinks so too - some of the details suggested to me by others have clicked with what I'm thinking).

Best way to avoid forensic evidence of a murder on your property is to go elsewhere. With a living, breathing human.

I think he already knew where he was going to take her.
 
  • #510
@Sillybilly has approved this Live discussion with Unmasked due to the guests are CM and LS.

It says 7:00 p.m. today. Not sure what time zone. I’m on Mountain time and it’s showing me 3 hours from now- that will be 6:00 pm for me.

 
  • #511
I disagree that it made him seem worse because by pointing out the texts they showed that by all accounts they weren’t fighting to any degree that would be unexpected by one spouse who is asking for a divorce. I have seen friends rip each other in shreds from texts. It showed that in the days leading up Saturday afternoon life was pretty normal. They go for a walk and meet the cleaning person at the dumpster. They eat lunch together. Barry gets pizza one night. She reminds him to stop at the pool and spa store…I think that did nothing to make Barry seem worse or feel ominous. If anything they both felt like they were purposefully not getting into a fight by the civility…
When my controlling narcissist husband and I were in the middle of a divorce, we went to dinner at the Officers' Club. I will always remember a man walking over to us and asking us if we were on our honeymoon.

Looks (and texts) can be deceiving. Barry was in the middle of "trying" to seem civil. Been there, done that.

To add: If this were premeditated (and I think that it was), he wanted to lull her into a false sense of security. Being civil is a way to do so.

JMO.
 
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I disagree that it made him seem worse because by pointing out the texts they showed that by all accounts they weren’t fighting to any degree that would be unexpected by one spouse who is asking for a divorce. I have seen friends rip each other in shreds from texts. It showed that in the days leading up Saturday afternoon life was pretty normal. They go for a walk and meet the cleaning person at the dumpster. They eat lunch together. Barry gets pizza one night. She reminds him to stop at the pool and spa store…I think that did nothing to make Barry seem worse or feel ominous. If anything they both felt like they were purposefully not getting into a fight by the civility…
She may also have been terrified being alone with him. Keen to keep harmony. Somebody mentioned Julia Roberts character in Sleeping With The Enemy. I think that is probably a good reference point.
 
  • #513
True and there is a lot of info about why she would be found if she were in the water. Bodies rarely aren’t found in water even if they get caught on something. I think the water idea was pretty well covered in searches and is not a possibility for me.

I am curious what you mean by “Bodies rarely aren’t found in water even if they get caught on something.”?

ETA: I ask because I live in an area with 3 rivers and plenty of creeks, and lots of people end up in the water here, to be found years later, or not at all.
 
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  • #514
What kind of safe was it? How big was it? Who had the combination? Where was it in the Garage? Was it just sitting there or did you hide it behind a picture?
What did you keep in it, besides 70,000 dollars I guess? was it a gun safe? Did you keep darts in there?

I want everyone to tell me if they have a large amount of cash, in a safe sitting in your garage.
No No No don't !Mostly likely it would not be there in the morning.

Just because it says Safe on the outside it ain't safe . IMO

I also wonder where the tree went?
 
  • #515
I disagree that it made him seem worse because by pointing out the texts they showed that by all accounts they weren’t fighting to any degree that would be unexpected by one spouse who is asking for a divorce. I have seen friends rip each other in shreds from texts. It showed that in the days leading up Saturday afternoon life was pretty normal. They go for a walk and meet the cleaning person at the dumpster. They eat lunch together. Barry gets pizza one night. She reminds him to stop at the pool and spa store…I think that did nothing to make Barry seem worse or feel ominous. If anything they both felt like they were purposefully not getting into a fight by the civility…

The calm of discussing snow tires and eating veggie soup stands in stark contrast to his recent threats of suicide and her standing strong and saying it’s over.

Suzanne seemed hopeful that a civil divorce was possible. She fakes civility toward that end. Barry had no intention of divorce, and was calculating his plan to come out of this marriage with all the money, plus sympathy. He fakes civility toward that end.

MOO
 
  • #516
Seems to me that SM did not realize the danger she was in. She wouldn't be the first that did not take her own advice. I think she used her mother's experience as her guide on how mom determined to leave SM's dad (Gene), and how she would go about doing this -- setting money aside, etc. SM could not let her head go to where BM would disappear her. MOO

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Yes exactly - who ever does imagine their husband of 30 years will kill them? Our located deceased forum is full of wives just like her with one exception- they’ve been found. I don’t think we will ever find her …
Jmo
 
  • #517
Yeah except that every time the defense comes up with a reasonable answer a piece gets taken away. :-(
They can have opposing easels, the defense can start with a full one :)
 
  • #518
How many meth heads did this guy employ? Is it possible one of them went to his house on Mother's day and caused Suzanne's demise?

Let’s see:

Barry arrives home, and there is frantic activity in the backyard. Barry is dumb enough to all but admit to this some nine months later, with the hilarious “Alvin and the Chimpmunks,” story.

Suzanne never shows a sign of life after that moment, but Barry sure is a busy boy.

He conceals the location of his phone, and wipes the his vehicle data. One of these things could be a crazy coincidence, but two is astronomically unlikely.

Then we get to the good stuff. Barry claims to have set his alarm for 4:30, but he’s active a good hour before that. His phone is in the vicinity of the bike location, and his vehicle activity supports this massive lie.

Then of course, Suzanne’s phone goes dark before Barry even leaves the house that morning. Weird right?! We will surely hear more about this during round two.

It’s Mother’s Day, and Suzanne’s phone never comes online. Not only that, but she doesn’t communicate with a soul. Not her lover, not her daughters, not her best friend. No one.

Meanwhile, husband of the year is dumping trash, changing shirts, spending 11 minutes at this job site that he left incredibly early for, and most importantly, lying through his teeth to the FBI about it.

He claimed he worked all day, and actually received the phone call from the neighbor while he was at the job site. The evidence shows that this was a stunning lie, and he spent most of the day in his hotel room (probably napping, as he wouldn’t have slept since the prior day).

I’ll stop here to answer your question, “is it possible one of them went to his house on Mother’s Day and caused Suzanne’s demise?”

I would argue no, as Suzanne could only be murdered once.

*clarity
 
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  • #519
Text messages between SO and SM -

# Peoples Exhibit 6
– “I can’t handle the unstableness. The day he cut his leg he accused me of wanting to go back to town to get his meds and talk to someone. I came back with I can’t question you about another but you can me? He literally opened his car door while I was driving up the mountain like he was going to jump. His usual tactic when I bring up another”; “Macy mentioned us separating today or divorcing. She wants us happy. She is tired of the tension”; He plays the hurt one”; “Says he loves me and can’t handle the pain from me not giving him the love he needs” Discussion about physical abuse, pushing SM into closet, putting gun to his head and saying “is this what you want?”

# Peoples Exhibit 8 – “I feel no peace when he is here

# Peoples Exhibit 9 – “I feel numb”; “I wouldn’t feel safe alone with him”. Discussion about plan for MaM to graduate and then SM filing for divorce. Uses “control mechanisms” -> As per SAH, “he would use girls to keep SM in marriage”.

# Peoples Exhibit 10 – Discussion about MaM living @ PP and MalM in Gunnison d/t school.

# Peoples Exhibit 11 – “Not sure he could take high road

# Peoples Exhibit 12/13 – “I tried to hold on for Macy

# Peoples Exhibit 14 – “He wants me to be the bad guy”; “I stood my ground… He left again”; “Told him I am done. That I need peace”. Discussion that end of marriage would have to be SMs fault.

# Peoples Exhibit 17 – “Stressful marriage”. BM asked SM “How will you pay for medical bills if you leave?

(# Peoples Exhibits 18-26 – Text message screenshots 2019 - 2020 between SM and SO.)

# Peoples Exhibit 19: “She (MaM) sees how he is towards me and almost begged me to divorce him”; “My heart aches for them both in different ways

# Peoples Exhibit 20: “But dealing with a narc”; “Macy said mom we could move to Salida and both get jobs this summer

# Peoples Exhibit 22: “She even mentioned a restraining order” (MaM).

# Peoples Exhibit 23: “Jekyll and Hyde”, calm and angry, rage and really angry. Discussion about 70x7 forgiveness that SM mentioned in the text messages. Matthew 18:21-22 in the new King James version of the Bible reads: Then Peter came to Him and said, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?" Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven."

# Peoples Exhibit 25: “He won’t speak of divorce. Begging for another chance”.

# Peoples Exhibit 26: Discussion that daughters were center for SMs world.
 
  • #520
Let’s see:

Barry arrives home, and there is frantic activity in the backyard. Barry is dumb enough to all but admit to this, some 9 months later, with the hilarious “Alvin and the Chimpmunks,” story.

Suzanne never shows a sign of life after that moment, but Barry sure is a busy boy.

He conceals the location of his phone, and wipes the his vehicle data. One of these things could be a crazy coincidence, but two is astronomically unlikely.

Then we get to the good stuff. Barry claims to have set his alarm for 4:30, but he’s active a good hour before that. His phone is in the vicinity of the bike location, and his vehicle activity supports this massive lie.

Then of course, Suzanne’s phone goes dark before Barry even leaves the house that morning. Weird right?! We will surely hear more about this during round two.

It’s Mother’s Day, and Suzanne’s phone never comes online. Not only that, but she doesn’t communicate with a soul. Not her lover, not her daughters, not her best friend. No one.

Meanwhile, husband of the year is dumping trash, changing shirts, spending 11 minutes at this job site that he left incredibly early for, and most importantly, lying through his teeth to the FBI about it.

He claimed he worked all day, and actually received the phone call from the neighbor while he was at the job site. The evidence shows that this was a stunning lie, and he spent most of the day in his hotel room (probably napping, as he wouldn’t have slept since the prior day).

I’ll stop here to answer your question, “is it possible one of them went to his house on Mother’s Day and caused Suzanne’s demise?”

I would argue no, as Suzanne could only be murdered once.
Can we get this post on a loop??
 
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