Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #72 *ARREST*

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  • #841
@DizzyB I think JL did live his life from May to November (when LE came knocking) as if Suzanne never existed. I'm sure he was scared to death his wife was going to find out, imo.

@Herat JL's testimony at trail is going to be very interesting. He's going to be under oath too with a lot of private messages (and photos) revealed. I hope he's been truthful to his family about what really happened.
 
  • #842
yep. And the big thing I’m waiting for is if LE on the evening of May 10 saw anything indicating if Suzanne even got up on Mother’s Day. Her morning coffee stuff, breakfast plates, lunch debris, her sleeping cloths, her day cloths, wet shower towels, ANYTHING online since maybe the FIRST thing she did on a normal morning would be check her phone and then go on the internet!

I'm intrigued bout the 'little' everyday things too, wet shower tray/bathtub etc.
Still really curious as to why, when Barry put up PP for sale there were no images of kitchen, utility area and garage, also, iirc some garden pictures were missing - there was a whole heap of trees photographed, looked like it was taken in just one spot and the creepy 'shrine' like bathroom with pictures in frames round edge of tub - anyone else remember that?
 
  • #843
And Lauren caught even more to BM’s “ drunk eyes “ comment:

This picture is the last PROOF OF LIFE of #Suzannemorphew Barry looked at the photo and allegedly told investigators she looked drunk. Described her eyes as drunk eyes, "it would take the edge off for the night."

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1425189024453517313?s=21
Yes, I’ve always found that to be a huge tell. When someone says he/she “would do,” something, that’s a red flag.

They should be talking about what happened at the time, “he/she did,” as opposed to a pattern of past behavior.

He should have said something like, “she was drunk, and it took the edge off that night.”

Letecia Stauch talked like this.
 
  • #844
Amen, those first few days, weeks and then months are critical to any missing persons case. JL knew more about what was going on in the marriage than BM did. He could have shed a lot of light early on in the investigation while LE was chasing mountain lion sized fairy trails...jmo
In the big scheme of things, JL not stepping forward may be a blessing. LE suspected foul play and searched the home more than once. They called in FBI and CBI. They had to explore all avenues, regardless, else be accused of a "rush to judgment."

The evidence provided by JL information just further confirmed that they were on the right track.

I don't see how the defense thinks smearing Suzanne's reputation negates their client murdering her. IMO, it doesn't. It just gives him another reason to do so.

I want to add that a male narcissist related to us did the same thing that Barry did. He called my husband, bad mouthed his wife (husband's relative) and said that the only reason that she would leave is if there were another man waiting in the wings.

I see so many similarities in the narcissist's playbook, whether it be a male or a female. We have dealt with a female narcissist, too. Same playbook.

JMO.
 
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  • #845
SUZANNE MORPHEW: Where was Barry Morphew on May 9 and 10? | FOX31 Denver (kdvr.com)

"Morphew got his car washed, and went to a Men’s Warehouse parking lot for another trash run that lasts 40 minutes."

I believe he paid particular attention to cleaning the windshield but the wash wasn't limited to the windshield.
You may be right. Without the AA, facts are hard to come by!
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  • #846
Do prosecutors only share portions of evidence during preliminary hearings since they only have to have a judge rule that there is enough for a trial?
I ask because IMO, there doesn't seem to be anything (so far) that would convince me that BM killed SM. (I personally believe that he did, but not sure that reasonable doubt wouldn't exist based on the evidence).
 
  • #847
Yes, I’ve always found that to be a huge tell. When someone says he/she “would do,” something, that’s a red flag.

They should be talking about what happened at the time, “he/she did,” as opposed to a pattern of past behavior.

He should have said something like, “she was drunk, and it took the edge off that night.”

Letecia Stauch talked like this.
I also thought back to my days of walking on eggshells. Barry's statement was telling. Suzanne said that she couldn't be herself around Barry and didn't feel comfortable. If true, it's no wonder she had to do something to "take the edge off" when he was around.

My follow-up question: What was this edge that was causing Suzanne to drink?

JMO.
 
  • #848
Do prosecutors only share portions of evidence during preliminary hearings since they only have to have a judge rule that there is enough for a trial?
I ask because IMO, there doesn't seem to be anything (so far) that would convince me that BM killed SM. (I personally believe that he did, but not sure that reasonable doubt wouldn't exist based on the evidence).
They share just enough to prove to a judge that there is probable cause to support the charges, and move the case forward to trial.

There are still two days left, and they haven’t shown premeditation, nor have they showed more specific evidence that Suzanne is in fact dead.

I’m more than confident that’s coming.
 
  • #849
We don't know when or how LE challenged Barry during his 3 30 hours.... but I can imagine this:

LE: Barry, walk us through Saturday.....

BM: Listen, I got up early. Picked up MG, we raked the beach area. Came home for lunch, veggie soup. Went back to town to get hot tub supplies and do a mechanical thing on the Bobcat, was there allllll afternoon. Went back home about 4.... and had more soup with Suzanne. We had soup until bedtime.... got up early, left her asleep at 5....

LE: hmmm. Your vehicle data and surveillance video would say otherwise, that you WEREN'T doing a mechanical thing to your Bobcat for 5 hours.

BM to LS: just because I forgot the time I was doing a mechanical thing to the Bobcat....

Remember he wasn't in his right mind when LE was questioning him, having just learned that his wife was missing.

Or... to the point, Barry wasn't in anyone's right mind WHILE getting his Bobcat repaired precisely because it happened in the sliver of time between surveilling his backyard and murdering his wife.

Anyway, IMO this might be how that mechanical thingy and timing came into play, if he tried to use the repair to alibi himself for Saturday, depending on what LE showed him.

‘People don’t know the truth’: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado

BBM

I snorted! :D

As wholesome as a warm bowl of veggie soup, if you ignore the suicide threats, the tranquilizer dart cap, and the missing wife :(
 
  • #850
Oh man, this just occurred to me. Think about this for a second.

This photo was sent about 40 minutes before the prosecution alleged Barry murdered Suzanne.

Grusing testifies that Suzanne sent her lover, Jeff Libler, a photo at 2:03 p.m. on Saturday, May 9. Grusing says that #BarryMorphew told them that Suzanne appeared drunk in the photo. Grusing says it's the last 'proof of life' for Suzanne.

May 9th while #BarryMorphew was away #SuzanneMorpehw was sending LinkedIn messages to Jeff Libler. Investigators showed a picture Suzanne sent to Jeff to Barry, he said she "looked drunk" and she had "drunk eyes"
Investigators say this is the last sign of Suzanne being alive

Now, Barry would claim Suzanne was alive and well when he returned home, so he should know her condition, and he shouldn’t be deducing anything from a photo.

She was drunk on their wonderful day together, or she was not. It’s not complicated.

So I’d like to hear this entire interview, because I can totally see him getting in a jam with this line of questioning.

https://twitter.com/russellhaythorn/status/1425188918912114688?s=21

https://twitter.com/ashleykktv/status/1425188597632753673?s=21

The defense also spoke of nude photos.. I wonder if the photo shown in court was actually a cropped photo. That would explain why the defense claimed they hadn't seen the picture and needed a copy. If this photo is cropped, BM could have seen her taking a hypothetical top less photo and even if he didn't know who exactly it was sent to, it could be assumed it wasn't sent to the girls, another family member or her best friend and I doubt she had been sending BM those types of photos recently. It could also explain why no bathing suit top was mentioned by anyone. We know her hair covered where bathing suit straps SHOULD be, but we don't know if they were actually there. If the picture showed a bathing suit and this pic is her last PROOF of life, wouldn't she be presumed to be wearing that when she disappeared?
 
  • #851
In the big scheme of things, JL not stepping forward may be a blessing. LE suspected and searched the home more than once. They called in FBI and CBI. They had to explore all avenues, regardless, else be accused of a "rush to judgment."

The evidence provided by JL information just further confirmed that they were on the right track.

I don't see how the defense thinks smearing Suzanne's reputation negates their client murdering her. IMO, it doesn't. It just gives him another reason to do so.

JMO.
Yes, I can see a situation where if JL came forward immediately, SM may have been treated as an adult that was voluntarily missing-- delaying the criminal investigation.
 
  • #852
In the video interview with LS last night, she mentioned that one of Barry's co-workers mentioned to her that Barry would watch the videos from his trail cams, ALL the time. So, since he's the one who installed them, he'd know exactly which angles each one of them cover. I wonder if it's possible that there were one or more of them somewhere near the river behind the house (where the alleged turkey was that M shot, according to Barry) that he either removed or turned off, just in case they'd capture him on video doing something that might incriminate him later?
 
  • #853
Poor SM. She had BM to contend with . JL does not sound like a rock. He deleted all traces of their relationship instead of going to the Police. This in itself is selfish. I doubt he was really going to run away with SM.
Especially since he said he was nervous about his family and job. He was never going to leave that.
 
  • #854
Watching Unmasked with Chris and Lauren. Lauren says Barry stopped and purchased some things at Walmart. Please let Walmart be what brings this dude down. Somewhere around 47:00 minutes. Still live.


Every single case involves Walmart!!! Why does every murderer/disappearer go to Walmart? Will they never learn? Ugh. The stupidity! I'm grateful for it though, I just don't understand it.
 
  • #855
Yes, I can see a situation where if JL came forward immediately, SM may have been treated as an adult that was voluntarily missing-- delaying the criminal investigation.
Yes, definitely could have muddied the waters!
 
  • #856
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Investigator testified that JL's wife was still unaware of JL's affair with SM in November when first interviewed.

Also, I believe SM/JL took a break after the daughter found the text communication but resumed communicating again around Christmas.

MOO

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Lauren Scharf@LaurenScharfTV

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@LaurenScharfTV
One of Libler's daughters found out about him speaking with Suzanne and told her older brothers and Uncle. Suzanne and Libler paused their relationship for a while but then got back to communication in Christmas of 2019.

2:51 PM · Aug 9, 2021·
 
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  • #857
Every single case involves Walmart!!! Why does every murderer/disappearer go to Walmart? Will they never learn? Ugh. The stupidity! I'm grateful for it though, I just don't understand it.
BBM: LOL Because there are so many of them!
 
  • #858
That was my impression. The brother was JL's brother. I picture JL downplaying the relationship or promising to end it and then being more careful with the way that they connected (ex: Linkedin).

JMO.
It depends on what the daughter read. I would have freaked out and told Mommy
 
  • #859
Every single case involves Walmart!!! Why does every murderer/disappearer go to Walmart? Will they never learn? Ugh. The stupidity! I'm grateful for it though, I just don't understand it.
I think the majority of people in the US go to Wal-Mart, at least occasionally, and most communities have a Wal-Mart. I would guess if someone needed items to quickly deal with a situation (ie: covering up a murder), that is where they would go.
 
  • #860
Especially since he said he was nervous about his family and job. He was never going to leave that.

This was a fantasy relationship for the both of them, but I think Suzanne put more meaning into it than was there.

I think she was musing a plan to leave BM and what she would/could do. The Ecuador thing was never something she was going to do on her own, it just served as a point for discussion of what escaping the relationship might entail.
 
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