Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #73 *ARREST*

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  • #81
I don't think she was there on Mothers Day and I am beginning to wonder if she was there on the Saturday. Yes I know a selfie was taken and sent to JL and a request to switch from linked in to Whats app but did JL and SM physically talk or did they just text that day. What I also find interesting is that on the list of 50 things is apparently BM having an affair I find that really hypocritical. I also find the Spy Pen really odd why would SM be so bothered if she herself were having an affair it just doesn't make sense. I realise SM and JL are not on trial but I do find it interesting.
MOO Her suspicions were long standing.
She retained it on her list.
 
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  • #82
I don't think she was there on Mothers Day and I am beginning to wonder if she was there on the Saturday. Yes I know a selfie was taken and sent to JL and a request to switch from linked in to Whats app but did JL and SM physically talk or did they just text that day. What I also find interesting is that on the list of 50 things is apparently BM having an affair I find that really hypocritical. I also find the Spy Pen really odd why would SM be so bothered if she herself were having an affair it just doesn't make sense. I realise SM and JL are not on trial but I do find it interesting.
SM was writing this list for herself, not us. From what we know about it, the entries are brief & some words even truncated.

Right now, I'm not completely comfortable trying to interpret them. We need more context.

But you are correct if read just straight without the context we will hopefully get as this moves forward.

Such PRIVATE thoughts for us to analyze and overanalyze. I, for one, would be angry BM for being unfaithful even if I were having an affair. To me, that does not illustrate cognitive dissonance.

But my opinion means nothing in an evidenciary sense, right?

MOO
 
  • #83
I understand some people see Suzanne's interest in whether or not Barry was having an affair as being hypocritical. But I don't think she was emotionally attached to the issue at all. She didn't care about his sexual interests from a feelings standpoint...she was already emotionally divorced. She wanted to document all of the reasons why the divorce was necessary; and to inventory that neither spouse was properly devoted to the marriage. It served her interests with the courts in the eventual divorce proceedings...and also with her daughters...who Barry was using as allies. To pit his daughters against their mother is a despicable and evil tactic....which quite frankly, justifies Suzanne's attempts to document Barry's cheating. And the facts are still not fully accounted for on that score, either, imo..
 
  • #84
Did we get a timestamp for when Barry was carting in random hand tools to the hotel? (Yes, we did. After 5:55.)

Because that would be a really peculiar thing to do while, say, your neighbor is calling the police for a welfare check FOR YOUR WIFE. Casually carry in a wrench and a screw and a shovel and a trowel and and and....

I wonder how urgent his step.

JMO

SUZANNE MORPHEW: Preliminary hearing in Barry Morphew trial reveals new details | FOX31 Denver
Great point.
He forgot to care.
 
  • #85
I agree with you this is a murder case and not a divorce case - I can only speak for myself and not others but to murder someone needs a Motive of some sort and I truly think people are exploring a possible motive/s for murder
Right. That makes total sense. What disturbs me are questions like,"Will BM get off the hook for murder now due to the affair?" Huh? Why would BM get off the hook for a murder because his wife had an affair? Or do women deserve to be murdered for this reason? This isn't the middle east where women are killed for "getting themselves raped" or for having an affair.
 
  • #86
MOO Her suspicions were long standing.
She retained it pn her list.

I reckon there's a chance BM had an affair in Indiana, this may have prompted the move to Colorado jmo
 
  • #87
Right. That makes total sense. What disturbs me are questions like,"Will BM get off the hook for murder now due to the affair?" Huh? Why would BM get off the hook for a murder because his wife had an affair? Or do women deserve to be murdered for this reason? This isn't the middle east where women are killed for "getting themselves raped" or for having an affair.
I think it’s a valid comment though (but I disagree with it). The defense will latch on to it to discredit SMs character. Because if she is Saint SM, the jury may have more compassion towards her. Of course it shouldn’t matter, but it jurors often show bias.
 
  • #88
I don't recall reading that on the list of 50 things and a search of tweets hasn't thrown it up either. Do you have a link to it please.
so these are the tweets I could find about grievances


Crime Talk with Scott Reisch
@CrimeTalkPod
May 8, 7:02 am: computer scientist able to recover from notes on phone a list of grievances against Barry. 50 reasons why Suzanne is leaving the marriage

Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV
On MAY 8, a note in #SuzanneMorphew was a list of 50 reasons why she wanted to leave the marriage. Ex. A lot of Women on FB, and said it was good for business

Marc Sallinger
@MarcSallinger
FBI was able to recover a note on Suzanne's iCloud from her phone. It was a "list of grievances" that FBI agent testifies was written by Suzanne about things she thought were wrong with her marriage with Barry. This is when she has already talked to friends, family about divorce

Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV
Agent Grusing said he spoke with Sheila and #Barrymorphew and other friends about this list. He spoke to Barry about a time in Mexico trying to take her phone and look at it.

Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV
Agent Grusing spoke with Sheila about #SuzanneMorphew list. More examples of grievances: concerns about recovering from cancer with #BarryMorphew still in the picture. Concerns about cameras in the garage. Accusing Suzanne of Boyfriend. They spoke with Barry about this.
 
  • #89
Right. That makes total sense. What disturbs me are questions like,"Will BM get off the hook for murder now due to the affair?" Huh? Why would BM get off the hook for a murder because his wife had an affair? Or do women deserve to be murdered for this reason? This isn't the middle east where women are killed for "getting themselves raped" or for having an affair.
The affair provides him with a strong motive, especially if he discovered it on the day he murdered her.
 
  • #90
I think it’s a valid comment though (but I disagree with it). The defense will latch on to it to discredit SMs character. Because if she is Saint SM, the jury may have more compassion towards her. Of course it shouldn’t matter, but it jurors often show bias.
Yes, but that's just the defense gaslighting, IMO. Following the playbook of their client. If I were the defense, I would be more careful. At some point (personally, I believe we're already there) denigrating SM's character is useless. BM's volatile & threatening behavior if and when facts about it come into evidence, will be game over for the defense when it comes to character. I already believe SM's statements to others about BM's horrible DV. His voice is on the spy pen. Will be chilling to hear that.

JMHO
 
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  • #91
So, I’m convinced there’s another vehicle here.

Barry’s truck moved once, but just a ways down the driveway. We haven’t heard any evidence that Barry traveled anywhere until the early morning hours of the 10th.

Defense now recounting the movement of #BarryMorphew truck. Recall-- it was parked in the Morphew driveway from the afternoon of May 9th to early morning May 10th. @KKTV11News

He just has to have dumped Suzanne’s body before heading to Broomfield, but it doesn’t look like he used his truck. Then I remembered this Tweet from Lauren:

On May 7, #BarryMorphew texted a person about getting a new truck. Attempted to call #SuzanneMorphew dad Gene. Also texted George Davis. Mallory was sending pictures of their trip to Utah and also a text that said, "Finally got the job!"

I don’t think he did get a new one, obviously, but I do wonder if he borrowed one to dispose of Suzanne. The reset of his truck doesn’t wipe out the data in the future, yet there’s nothing there.

I think there’s a bombshell coming.

maybe BM’s truck computer being reset wasn’t him trying to delete the GPS data, but instead he was trying to make it look like his truck wouldn’t start so that he could borrow someone else’s vehicle?
 
  • #92
Yes, but that's just the defense gaslighting the jury, IMO. Following the playbook of their client. If I were the defense, I would be more careful. At some point (personally, I believe we're already there) denigrating SM's character is useless. BM's volatile & threatening behavior if and when facts about it come into evidence, will be game over for the defense when it comes to character. I already believe SM's statements to others about BM's horrible DV. His voice is on the spy pen. Will be chilling to hear that.

JMHO
MOO Hammerimg the floozy angle is going to be constant bevause its the basis of their "some other guy."
 
  • #93
Why did BM unhook his trailer, and detrailer his Bobcat. It was needed in Broomfield the next day. If the Bobcat played no part, wonder why, what logistics.
 
  • #94
The affair provides him with a strong motive, especially if he discovered it on the day he murdered her.
IMPO I don't think he found out about it the day she disappeared, I think he found out about it a long time before she disappeared. As I say my personal opinion Only
 
  • #95
Maybe one of you have the PC hearing tweets handy, particularly the ones about MM2’s boyfriend being questioned at the Morphew house the night SUZANNE was reported missing.

<modsnip - no links>

I did a cursory search for links to both the boyfriend’s statement and Andy’s in the media threads, but had no luck yet.
 
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  • #96
Why did BM unhook his trailer, and detrailer his Bobcat. It was needed in Broomfield the next day. If the Bobcat played no part, wonder why, what logistics.

It was needed to do the job Barry was sub-contracted to do, but it wasn't needed for what he was actually doing.
Therefore, leave it at home.

Points right back to him setting up Broomfield as an alibi, possibly even as far back as the 7th.

He worked that job the fall prior, so he knew full well what tools and equipment would be needed for the repair, and he purposely had none of those with him.
He also knew it was against city by-laws to be working on Sunday.
The materials were never even ordered.

JP picked up on it right away (and rightfully earned a @Warwick7 "BAM!") when he said the whole thing felt like an alibi.
 
  • #97
I have just tried searching for the quote I’m looking for back through the three previous threads but am unable to find it so please bear with me Mods (sorry) :(
I distinctly remember a quote from LE stating Barry told them he “loaded the truck the night before” - But we now know he didn’t bring any of the right tools for his workers to use when he arrived in Broomfield, so what exactly WAS he loading on Saturday night? Still so hoping we will find out when the HIE room was reserved too ... :rolleyes:
ETA oh Ontario Mom you and I must have been typing at the exact same time !
 
  • #98
I didn't realize the DVR was actually missing. Wonder if that was something BM was disposing of on his infamous trash run?
Blimey loosing a DVR is quite something, It is the box of magic tricks at the heart of your CCTV System basically without it nothing happens. For it to go missing is ODD. For those that don't know a DVR is a box with a memory in it when cameras record they can save to the memory (hard copy until over written) and most have the ability to upload or save to the cloud. Without the box(dvr) being attached
nothing works. This sort of thing does not simply go missing.
 
  • #99
On the subject of no evidence of a BM affair.

The definition of an affair indicates an ongoing relationship. I’m willing to bet any affairs conducted by BM (think rich widows, as someone said, or wealthy businesswomen with useful contacts) were quite separate, and in addition, to other proclivities.

His internet searches for “Cute girls near Salida” was raised at the prelim. The location qualifier suggests he wasn’t just idly looking for pictures, he was looking for hook-ups. Searching for “Cute girls near Salida” was hardly going to lead to wholesome mentoring opportunities for him with high school girls. The tangible results would likely be links to paid sex workers.

Could that have been a hobby he engaged in (didn’t SM allude, in one of her recovered text messages, to “what you’ve been up to for years”?) while legitimately denying he was having an affair.

IMO
 
  • #100
Blimey loosing a DVR is quite something, It is the box of magic tricks at the heart of your CCTV System basically without it nothing happens. For it to go missing is ODD. For those that don't know a DVR is a box with a memory in it when cameras record they can save to the memory (hard copy until over written) and most have the ability to upload or save to the cloud. Without the box(dvr) being attached
nothing works. This sort of thing does not simply go missing.
Could the previous owners of PP have taken it with them in 2018? Not sure cameras inside the house ever worked or recorded are we?
MOO
 
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