Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #73 *ARREST*

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  • #741
Going back to the incoming and outgoing calls at midnight and a few hours later in early morning at 2 or 3am May 10th- why didn’t they release who those calls were to and from? They must know since they have those cell records. Why didn’t they just say who they were to in court like they did the other records they have found? Find it weird they didn’t disclose that information.

I’m wondering if it’s some damning evidence and will come out in trial. Maybe it is proof BM did really know about the affair but told LE he did not. Jmo
 
  • #742
I'm also very interested in what a forensic accountant has to say at trial. I think there were a lot of financial irregularities. We already know he took out the fraudulent Covid loan for employees that he doesn't have and tried to vote for her, so I'm confident that BM is no stranger to cooking the books using various recipes.
MOO
Didn’t one of the messages shared in the preliminary reference her telling JL that she was working on Barry’s books? If she kept the books I don’t see prosecution opening that can of worms as it could imply she was complicit.
 
  • #743
I can see BM telling the lender, Suzanne is recovering from cancer, and using Covid as an excuse to "take the paperwork home" for her to sign. If the lender was someone they had worked with before, the excuse many have been easily accepted.
MOO
I would buy this if they were still in Indiana - but they were new to CO - could he have established that kind of relationship (perhaps a volunteer FF was a bank officer?) - we sometimes handle small re-fi's -and there are always documents which require signing before a notary public - how could he pull that off? I really don't see him getting any cash out of PP and that's why he needed the IN sale to go through - he probably googled the uniform guardianship procedures and used those to "sign" for her getting all of that money for himself. Then used the same guardianship letters to sell their PP home - he didn't need a line of credit...
IMO
 
  • #744
I can see BM telling the lender, Suzanne is recovering from cancer, and using Covid as an excuse to "take the paperwork home" for her to sign. If the lender was someone they had worked with before, the excuse many have been easily accepted.
MOO

Do you know if anyone looked to see if there is a lien on the property, and if so who the holder is?
 
  • #745
Do you know if anyone looked to see if there is a lien on the property, and if so who the holder is?
considering the property sold, if there was a lien on the property it would have needed to be paid off from the proceeds at the sale for the title policy - when @Seattle1 and I were looking at the deeds we did not find anything officially recorded in the public record at that time. I think he is just renting now and he also sold the vacant land - he was busy with those guardianship letters.
IMO
 
  • #746
Didn't give that much thought.....Barry would have been terrified about divorce proceedings discovery by Suzanne's attorney. Having those shenigans discovered and examined in a civil proceeding could have led to criminal ones for Barry....or additional civil ones for that matter.

Agreed. People outside the USA may not grasp what a HUGE issue divorce is due to providing health insurance, retirement, and alimony support for a non-working spouse after divorce.

BM would be facing a lot of financial scrutiny, alimony, and health insurance payments for Suzanne, as well as an inheritance clawback in the event of a divorce.

I truly want to see the financials and see if BM dutifully paid into SS and Medicare for him and Suzanne over the years. And if Suzanne just melded her inheritance into a marital asset without isolating it into a trust payable to her children and not her husband.
 
  • #747
This set of transactions is very interesting because it appears to have been very impactful on Suzanne. Any thoughts?

Kinda in response but also jumping off your post a little :)

BM somehow gained access to inheritance/persuaded (manipulated) Suzanne to put that money into PP house as a way to keep her - MM2's boyf has already disclosed to LE that separation has been raised before, and I think Barry would not have liked that one little bit, particularly if it was Suzanne who raised it previously, after all, 'No-one leaves Barry'. He clearly isn't above nasty and vile comments about paying for health care if Suzanne left, as well as demonstrate other manipulative behaviours to keep her, it appears he would play dirty to get his own way often, so it's only reasonable to picture him doing other dastardly deeds with things that he sees belong to him such as money - he would do 'anything it takes' to keep what's his (in his mind) and if that meant stealing her inheritance from her, somehow, to keep her with him, then I can see that happening.
jmo
 
  • #748
SM's $500K inheritance was from her mother -- long divorced from Gene. According to Andy, SM had to contribute these monies towards the purchase of PP after their Indiana residence did not sell as quickly as the couple anticipated. I always believed SM wanted to recover this money as her separate property from the Indiana balloon payoff which occurred just weeks after SM disappeared.

Allegedly, BM and SM had a 30-year history of informally borrowing from Gene, without incident. Due to the delayed sale of the Indiana residence, I think the couple found themselves "cash poor" during their first year in Colorado, and called on Gene for help. However, I think it was SM's siblings that made the last loan from Gene an issue, which put significant pressure on SM (and angered BM) when her siblings wanted BM & SM to produce a promissory note. Gene was older and in failing health where I think others had become aware/involved in his affairs. MOO based on info from Andy and later MBM.
did not know that very important piece of information. $$ was from Mom.
 
  • #749
Even the world's best cadaver dogs cannot smell products of decomp until the body has gone through rigor mortis (at about 3-6 hours), the enzymatic changes in the body cells of that process have ceased, and then, tiny amounts of cadaverine are usually detectable at about 12 hours. Typically, they start working with decomp dogs at 24 hours.

But if Suzanne was rapidly removed from PP or if she left PP alive, there would be no decomp. She wasn't lying around in one place for 12 hours. I believe he put her into a game bag or similar right away. He probably wrapped her in plastic too. Then the cooler.

All of this took place before rigor set in. Products of decomp would not be present at that time.
I'm inclined to believe that BM strangled SM -- whether at PP or another location. I'm thinking about Shanann Watts, strangled in her bed, and Chris taking her to his job site that morning on his regular work shift. Chris also stripped the bed, throwing the fitted sheet in the home garbage, and taking the flat sheet with Shanann. No hits by the cadaver dogs at the house or property.
 
  • #750
I would buy this if they were still in Indiana - but they were new to CO - could he have established that kind of relationship (perhaps a volunteer FF was a bank officer?) - we sometimes handle small re-fi's -and there are always documents which require signing before a notary public - how could he pull that off? I really don't see him getting any cash out of PP and that's why he needed the IN sale to go through - he probably googled the uniform guardianship procedures and used those to "sign" for her getting all of that money for himself. Then used the same guardianship letters to sell their PP home - he didn't need a line of credit...
IMO
I did just sell some property and went to a notary to have docs signed, never had to be in person for anything. Check came in the mail.

I’m a notary. I have been asked to notarize signed docs where the spouse was not present, and I have had to refuse-it’s an uncomfortable thing, because acquaintances just expect you to do it for them. I’m a rule follower. I can see a notary friend or acquaintance acquiescing to Barry’s request, especially with his cancer patient wife at home during Covid. I also read about a shady notary notarizing docs for people who murdered a couple-something about the sale of their boat.
 
  • #751
I'm inclined to believe that BM strangled SM -- whether at PP or another location. I'm thinking about Shanann Watts, strangled in her bed, and Chris taking her to his job site that morning on his regular work shift. Chris also stripped the bed, throwing the fitted sheet in the home garbage, and taking the flat sheet with Shanann. No hits by the cadaver dogs at the house or property.
and he might know this considering all the publicity the murders had - being a follower of true crime and all. Wonder if he watched the netflix documentary on the Watts murders?
IMO
 
  • #752
I'm inclined to believe that BM strangled SM -- whether at PP or another location. I'm thinking about Shanann Watts, strangled in her bed, and Chris taking her to his job site that morning on his regular work shift. Chris also stripped the bed, throwing the fitted sheet in the home garbage, and taking the flat sheet with Shanann. No hits by the cadaver dogs at the house or property.
If she was incapacited from the tranquilizer....several possibilities: drowning, strangulation or suffocation. I think maybe the latter, with a plastic bag of some type strapped over her head and tightened up while she was unconscious...little movement, he wouldn't even have to see her face...just cut off air for the necessary period of time...quiet and peaceful. But any of these three would result in the same outcome...lack of oxygen...no blood.
 
  • #753
did not know that very important piece of information. $$ was from Mom.
Does anyone know if $500k was the total inherited from her Mom? I've seen $600k referenced here before. Just curious. TIA
 
  • #754
I did just sell some property and went to a notary to have docs signed, never had to be in person for anything. Check came in the mail.

I’m a notary. I have been asked to notarize signed docs where the spouse was not present, and I have had to refuse-it’s an uncomfortable thing, because acquaintances just expect you to do it for them. I’m a rule follower. I can see a notary friend or acquaintance acquiescing to Barry’s request, especially with his cancer patient wife at home during Covid. I also read about a shady notary notarizing docs for people who murdered a couple-something about the sale of their boat.
BBM
I'm confused - you "went to a notary" but "never had to be in person for anything" - so was a notary an in person witness to the documents you signed? In my state, we recently allowed "remote notarization" but it's a bit rigorous as far as training and certification. I have also been asked by well meaning friends to notarize via facetime but I just won't do it. If I decide to do the remote, I will take the class and get certified. Otherwise you will need to be in my presence with your valid ID.

I am hoping the financial information does come out eventually but maybe not until trial? How much do they need to convince the judge - that's the question IMO.
 
  • #755
Even the world's best cadaver dogs cannot smell products of decomp until the body has gone through rigor mortis (at about 3-6 hours), the enzymatic changes in the body cells of that process have ceased, and then, tiny amounts of cadaverine are usually detectable at about 12 hours. Typically, they start working with decomp dogs at 24 hours.

But if Suzanne was rapidly removed from PP or if she left PP alive, there would be no decomp. She wasn't lying around in one place for 12 hours. I believe he put her into a game bag or similar right away. He probably wrapped her in plastic too. Then the cooler.

All of this took place before rigor set in. Products of decomp would not be present at that time.
If he did take her Range Rover, there’s a major issue here according to @NoSI’s notes.

May 12, 2020: Search warrant for Verizon phone records, RTT data, F350. No human blood found in F350. Decomp dogs (2 different dogs, 2 different handlers) did not hit. An exhibit was shown: Image of inside of garage with 2 Range Rovers parked in it. Dogs did not hit.

That’s why I’m leaning towards another vehicle being in play here.

I'm thinking he buried her alive, under a tree, on or near the property. Wasn't he going to bury BF under a tree, and there was tree planter disposed of? Then there's no dead body for dogs to hit on anywhere, and he can drive around and act suspicious, leading LE to waste time digging up job sites. And didn't agent agree with defense that there wasn't enough time to dispose of a body on his drive morning of 10th?
 
  • #756
Anyone have any guesses as to why BM called GM on 5/7?
This is the day after “I’m done” text from SM to BM.
Was he asking for another loan? I doubt it. There was bad blood over the last one. However, he did call someone that same day about buying a new truck.
Or
What if BM told him, “You better talk to your daughter. I think she’s having an affair and she’s threatening to leave me and our daughters.” (Poor me.)
 
  • #757
and he might know this considering all the publicity the murders had - being a follower of true crime and all. Wonder if he watched the netflix documentary on the Watts murders?
IMO
That one was chilling.
 
  • #758
I'm giving up trying to snip bold etc.

I'm going for @OldCop last point as my guess
 
  • #759
Anyone have any guesses as to why BM called GM on 5/7?
This is the day after “I’m done” text from SM to BM.
Was he asking for another loan? I doubt it. There was bad blood over the last one. However, he did call someone that same day about buying a new truck.
Or
What if BM told him, “You better talk to your daughter. I think she’s having an affair and she’s threatening to leave me and our daughters.” (Poor me.)
If they were arguing about money how could he afford the cash for a new truck? I think you are right - a new "loan" from GM and tattling on his wife perhaps? I think he also called him about the guardianship when she went missing.

Regarding the cadaver hits (or lack thereof on PP property) I ran across this:
FBI agents are seen investigating plot of land owned by Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew's husband | Daily Mail Online
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He says along with the scent picked up by cadaver dogs at BMs plot of land near Poncha Springs, they made another ‘hit’ at the riverfront worksite in Salida. CBI investigators have now taken over the site.

AM also revealed that CBI are processing three other finds: a tarp, a towel and a blanket found on the mountain trails near SMs home.

(note, edited for initials)

We haven't heard any evidence about the tarp, towel or blanket yet - wonder if LE concluded they were not involved?
 
  • #760
and he might know this considering all the publicity the murders had - being a follower of true crime and all. Wonder if he watched the netflix documentary on the Watts murders?
IMO
I suppose it makes sense that BM would choose to copy another bungling, overconfident narcissist. But didn't he make it to the end of the doc where CW is spending life in prison? :rolleyes:
 
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