If LE could answer one question related to the case evidence, what would you most want to know?
Who organised the girls’ camping trip and when?
Just sneaking in a question and a bit …

If LE could answer one question related to the case evidence, what would you most want to know?
Very well said. Your final sentence leaves me sad. I wonder if he ever contacted Andy? Or was the woman he carried a torch for just an escape from reality? Think of the hours spent texting and talking to SM that he could have invested in his 6 children. Lots of preventable collateral damage in his life.I can't say I agree with the happily ever after scenario. I see Suzanne getting out of the marriage as likely if not murdered...but, this guy made it quite clear that he didn't want to lose his job or his family. Those were his words. I think the affair would have continued for a time...but after Suzanne's independence....it would have ended at some point. Likely when Suzanne met someone who was readily and regularly available minus the complications and constant secrecy. That would have gotten old to a free woman, imo. This guy may have been trapped with his "gang"...but it was his gang....and he didn't want to lose it. Suzanne had managed to live in a marriage up until about the last two. She was both vulnerable and desperate....and JL benefitted from both..
Yes, @DizzyB , if I am reading that correctly.So the location where the bike was found was along the route that Barry said she biked, “up US 50 and then to Fooses”? But MH said she would not bike there because it was a “crazy climb”, and she would take her car to get to the trails she used?
Thanks, @Cindizzi.Deputy Brown found the bicycle shortly after getting notified of Suzanne Missing. He immediately put on his body warn camera when he got to Highway 50 and County Road 225. Noted no blood, skidmarks, brake marks, no struggle, no damage to the bicycle.
https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1424739624082153474?s=21
The bike is navy with light blue pedals. "Something is up with the front tire," the deputy said. The deputy brought the tire back up to the county road without gloves.
https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1424742841163685897?s=21
ETA. Around 4:00 LS describes watching video from body worn camera about the brake being on.
That is a good question. I think we would be at the same place still. LE has a theory, but it is still prosecution's responsibility to prove that theory ultimately. We don't know how long that cap has been in the lint trap. Prosecution would need to convince a jury that it has only been there since a certain date and that it was used to harm Suzanne to make it relevant. I'm pretty good at cleaning the trap every time I dry a load, but is everyone?If a tranquilliser cap had not been found in the dryer, I wonder where we would be at now?
My question would be - What, if anything, did they recover of evidentiary value regarding BM's trash dumps?
When did SM get the inheritance? I’ve seen a lot of people say BM was married to the money or it was all about the money to him. However it seems to me BM had a good thing going business wise at least at one point and earned a great living. Another words he earned most of the money in their assets. I understand after the move money was tight but that was a temporary situation, once the house sold and he picked up more jobs the money would flow again. Plus if they owned rental properties, that would be monthly income also. Plus BM didn’t like paying interest from all I’ve read so I imagine they didn’t have many outstanding loads.
I can see that BM would be upset that SM has all this money to herself, knowing she wanted out. On the flip side if I was the bread winner all those years it would be upsetting if SM was like it’s all mine. I’ve been reading for days so forgive me it I’ve missed something.
**** Biggest mistake made was moving, that was the beginning of the end will kind of…..
Barry, Suzanne and the gun are placed together at the same time and place, in Barry's own words. And this was just minutes prior to Suzanne's last known communication with the outside world, permanently. Gonna be difficult to escape that straight jacket....imo.That is a good question. I think we would be at the same place still. LE has a theory, but it is still prosecution's responsibility to prove that theory ultimately. We don't know how long that cap has been in the lint trap. Prosecution would need to convince a jury that it has only been there since a certain date and that it was used to harm Suzanne to make it relevant. I'm pretty good at cleaning the trap every time I dry a load, but is everyone?
We really don't know the true condition of their financial picture just yet. What we do know, is that they borrowed from GM over the years...their arguments, according to SM, was about money 80% of the time....and, according to MM....they had financial pressures, living beyond their means, etc. That doesn't sound entirely "successful" to me. And this is separate from any shady, questionable matters, such as possibly the COVID loan. We don't know yet just what their situation really was. But it will eventually come out.There is some truth to this. Everyone had the impression Suzanne was the "money bag" but they did quite well for 23 years of marriage with their businesses before the inheritance. I can see where Barry would be upset if Suzanne wanted $500,000 and out of the marriage, but he's smart enough to know the courts take all things into consideration when it comes to joint marital assets in a divorce...which it is now because they sunk it into the house in Colorado together in my opinion and the house was clearly was worth alot more than $500,000. If all this was was the house and all Suzanne wanted was $500,000 was she really going to walk away from $1.6 million in that single asset? Suzanne most likely would have gotten more than $500,000 in a divorce in equity from the marriage. I think there is too much focus on Suzanne's "inheritance" and not the big picture of their joint assets.
@NWLady, we hope we will be able to tighten the timeline even more and fill in some gaps after the final 2 days of the prelim next week. Right now it is fluid and we are trying to tweak it to make it as accurate as we can based on what official data has come out. Obviously, we won’t know everything until the AA is released so we probably shouldn’t park it there just yet. Hopefully, that will be in the next couple of weeks. It will likely go into the Media, Maps, and Timeline thread.
They did very well. Their spread in Indiana was magnificent. I believeThere is some truth to this. Everyone had the impression Suzanne was the "money bag" but they did quite well for 23 years of marriage with their businesses before the inheritance. I can see where Barry would be upset if Suzanne wanted $500,000 and out of the marriage, but he's smart enough to know the courts take all things into consideration when it comes to joint marital assets in a divorce...which it is now because they sunk it into the house in Colorado together in my opinion and the house was clearly was worth alot more than $500,000. If all this was was the house and all Suzanne wanted was $500,000 was she really going to walk away from $1.6 million in that single asset? Suzanne most likely would have gotten more than $500,000 in a divorce in equity from the marriage. I think there is too much focus on Suzanne's "inheritance" and not the big picture of their joint assets.
BBM: According to Melinda, I think they only borrowed from him once, $100K, when they were waiting for the sale of the Indiana home to go through.We really don't know the true condition of their financial picture just yet. What we do know, is that they borrowed from GM over the years...their arguments, according to SM, was about money 80% of the time....and, according to MM....they had financial pressures, living beyond their means, etc. That doesn't sound entirely "successful" to me. And this is separate from any shady, questionable matters, such as possibly the COVID loan. We don't know yet just what their situation really was. But it will eventually come out.
I can't say I agree with the happily ever after scenario. I see Suzanne getting out of the marriage as likely if not murdered...but, this guy made it quite clear that he didn't want to lose his job or his family. Those were his words. I think the affair would have continued for a time...but after Suzanne's independence....it would have ended at some point. Likely when Suzanne met someone who was readily and regularly available minus the complications and constant secrecy. That would have gotten old to a free woman, imo. This guy may have been trapped with his "gang"...but it was his gang....and he didn't want to lose it. Suzanne had managed to live in a marriage up until about the last two. She was both vulnerable and desperate....and JL benefitted from both..
That was my understanding....but people are trying to build a narrative around their finances to get to a motive. There is an expression: asset rich, cash poor and if they were disinclined to borrow they could be asset rich, cash poor which CAN put financial stress on a marriage because assets aren't cash until they are sold or converted or borrowed against as equity. We just don't know and we have no idea if prosecutors can spin it into a narrative that is beyond doubt ultimately in a trial situation.BBM: According to Melinda, I think they only borrowed from him once, $100K, when they were waiting for the sale of the Indiana home to go through.
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I don't think SM would have missed her maintenance appointment. Six months post-chemotherapy is such a milestone for patients and SM seemed to have a brilliant new vision for herself and her future. BM should have just let her go!
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