Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #74 *ARREST*

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  • #461
I did read something about WhatsApp and privacy and that supposedly they do not keep old messages on their servers. Of course I am not a techie so who knows if they could retain messages elsewhere and it was just word salad. I truly do wonder if Jeff would have been located without the spy pen. It was 6 months before they found him (do we know how?). Did it take six months for them to look at Suzanne constantly being on LinkedIn? Or did it just show as always being logged into LinkedIn? The LinkedIn data had to be connected to his name, unless he had a fake account. Either way it would tie back to him. If they didn’t track down Jeff, the defense’s SODDI would be a secret lover that had never been located. Would Jeff have still let the trial play out, keeping his secret, even if it meant Suzanne’s killer went free? You know what I think Jeff would have done.
LE found the spy pen in SM’s closet in June. Some files had been deleted, some not. So I don’t know long after that they discovered the 5 hours of conversation with her and JL. So they knew his first name and they played the recordings for SM girlfriends SO and HW. They didn’t know who he was. I guess LE didn’t know about SM using LinkedIn or WhatsApp until they got her iCloud. Remember the Sheriff office press release on November 10 asking anyone who communicated with her using WhatsApp, Voxer and other apps to contact them ?
So when they got her LinkedIn messages they finally knew who JL was.
JMO
 
  • #462
No mention anywhere of BM taking meds. AM has said he is very anti-drug of any kind.
BM complained of SM taking meds.

https://twitter.com/ashleykktv/status/1424755480048455680?s=21

Investigators say #BarryMorphew told them he and #SuzanneMorphew fought sometimes because he worked too much and he was upset about some medication Suzanne was on. He wanted her to get off the medication. @KKTV11News
Makes you wonder why he wanted her off the meds...Did it suppress their sex life? that would be my guess...it is all about Barry, you know.
 
  • #463
If I had to guess, I would say that Jeff deleted the messages before deleting his account. I hope he didn’t, but he sure seems like that kind of guy.
He couldn't have miscalculated the outcome more if he tried to. Not only did the secret come out...he will relive it for the entire world to see at trial...Not only will he be on display, sadly so will his family. Hopefully, his testimony will reflect on Suzanne's true condition..one that is trapped in loneliness, longing for freedom and a new life. If the trial reflects negatively on JL...thats on him.
 
  • #464
Makes you wonder why he wanted her off the meds...Did it suppress their sex life? that would be my guess...it is all about Barry, you know.
Hadn't thought of that. I just thought it was another way he tried to control her but that makes perfect sense.
 
  • #465
Makes you wonder why he wanted her off the meds...Did it suppress their sex life? that would be my guess...it is all about Barry, you know.
I can’t find the tweet but it was something to the effect that BM said he didn’t like the way she acted towards him when she was on her meds.
IMO she was probably acting happier and more sure of herself which would make him feel insecure about being able to control her.
MOO
 
  • #466
Trying frantically to catch up on my lunch break and just had a thought. Are washing machines / dryers “Smart” these days too? ie could you track when they were used at which time and date? Or would the Electrical Company be able to provide that type of information, knowing the normal ebbs and flows of power useage at a particular property? Just trying to narrow down if the washing was last done after 2.44pm on 5/9. Great work Everyone, and getting closer to Monday 23rd now! Cannot wait! :)

I have a smart washer. I can tell you from looking at my app that my husband set a wash on a 60 degree hygiene wash, on a 1800 spin at 12.56 today. He's clearly washing towels, good man!
 
  • #467
I do have a wee little bit of doubt about Barry browsing the dating sites. I am not 100% positive that Suzanne would never search a site on Barry’s phone in order to make him the bad guy, the cheater. She was trying to get out of the marriage and maybe she wanted some ammo. I know how stupid that sounds, but nothing shocks me in this case.
BBM
I respectfully disagree that this doubt is reasonable.

In this day and age, people contemplating divorce know that they don't need evidence of cheating to get a divorce. Both Indiana and Colorado are "true" no-fault divorce states - divorce will be granted by the court upon one party's attestation that the marriage is "irretrievably broken". Counseling may be required, but the divorce is inevitable if one party is adamant. "Ammo" in the sense of evidence of infidelity doesn't factor into the court's judgment in any way - including property settlement and financial support. There would be no significant custody issue, with the younger daughter nearing 18.

I believe SM was looking for evidence to support her belief that her husband had violated the marriage covenant, because in her worldview and among her friends, that covenant was important. She had endured much to keep the marriage, but upon rekindling an old flame, she was able to see a future without BM. She was working through the process of rationalizing and justifying her increasing inclination to leave.

IMO, it is unlikely that she had access to BM's phone. It seems clear that neither party trusted the other, and to me that means BM took steps to secure his phone from intrusions by his wife. She needed that spy pen because she had no other way to track his conversations.

All JMO, of course.
 
  • #468
tmar, while reading your, I paused to contemplate the treasures BM will take along with a fair yet justified sentence. There are exactly zero.

He will hopefully be placed in a cold cinder block cell made of concrete for a very long sentence.

Once, DD had a terrifying stalker episode while in college. DJ for the college's campus. Big man on campus. Via the Dean, we had him threatened with wearing concrete boots in the TX Red River if he didn't stop scary stuff and leave her alone sans formal charges and a restraining order that would ruin his permanent college record.

Where is Suzanne? For countless hours, I've traveled the routes on google earth to locate cameras, easy off ramps, perhaps to easy places to hide in the woods, visibility of waterways and lakes etal where Barry could easily access. Did Barry make Suzanne a pair of concrete boots?

Like many others, I am convinced, at this time, that the accused suffocated Suzanne, with intention, hopefully in the nicest ways, because, ya know, Barry loves her. It helps to consider SM was unconscious for an amount of time, hopefully the whole time, so that she never knew about the smothering of her life, does it really take 12 minutes, if that happened, nor would we want her to know or feel anything afterward being tranquilized.

Barry probably did the suffocating portion of the dastardly, dirty deed by standing behind her. If she was pushed off a cliff, then how could we be assured that she passed upon landing?

I truly believe the tranquilizer was used because BM didn't want SM to have the ability to fight back and leave marks on him. Everyone who follows true crime knows that police will take pics of any marks on a POIs body. Secondary to protecting him from defensive marks caused by SM, its a good way to move her without leaving cadaverine around. I think he killed her wherever her body is. Once that place is found, I think there will be alot more answers and lots of gaps filled in. Still praying her body is recovered and there is still evidence available.
 
  • #469
I had my coffee and am back to NoSi’s fabulous notes on Day 2. We are spoiled.

When did LE first take Barry’s phone? Had he already deleted all of the “I’m done” texts between him and Suzanne, before he even knew what had happened to her (ahem)? Was he very selective and only deleted any incriminating texts but left the hiking and get hot tub stuff?

One of his big errors was taking his phone during the bike dump. I assume he thought airplane mode was untraceable. He may have left his phone home during other murder related tasks, and it seemed obvious that he turned Airplane mode off when he wanted the data to show that he was sitting at home with Suzanne all night.
 
  • #470
Lol. Crime Online reporting “ squirrels ‘ instead of chipmunks.
Heard that squirrel swap in a written article yesterday too.
 
  • #471
@Lyanna
Remember last week when you noticed that in one of BM’s texts to SM that he spelled “ mere” as “ mear “ ? And wondered why his phone might have used that spelling as predictive text.
Well I was just looking at GM ‘s obituary and guess where his Christmas tree farm was?

After purchasing the root beer stand, Gene purchased a farm in Mears, Mich. that he'd seen while in the Army, where he proudly grew Christmas trees for sale at the stand for nearly 60 years with the help of his son Andrew Moorman and family.


https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/shorelinemedia/name/gene-moorman-obituary?pid=197126245


Not saying it means a thing. Just a weird co-winky-dink maybe.
MOO
 
  • #472
1. If he “trank”ed SM, he knew he could not let her autopsied, so he planned to hide her body well.
2. JL’s role in this tragedy will enable the defense to argue: she had at least one interstate affair that we know of. If JL didnt kill her, who’s to say it wasn’t a different boyfriend?”
IMO, the jury will be instructed not to indulge in such speculation:

"Reasonable doubt means a doubt based upon reason and common sense which arises from a fair and rational consideration of all of the evidence, or the lack of evidence, in the case. It is a doubt which is not a vague, speculative or imaginary doubt, but such a doubt as would cause reasonable people to hesitate to act in matters of importance to themselves."

Colorado Jury Instructions - Criminal, #3.04
 
  • #473
BBM
I respectfully disagree that this doubt is reasonable.

In this day and age, people contemplating divorce know that they don't need evidence of cheating to get a divorce. Both Indiana and Colorado are "true" no-fault divorce states - divorce will be granted by the court upon one party's attestation that the marriage is "irretrievably broken". Counseling may be required, but the divorce is inevitable if one party is adamant. "Ammo" in the sense of evidence of infidelity doesn't factor into the court's judgment in any way - including property settlement and financial support. There would be no significant custody issue, with the younger daughter nearing 18.

I believe SM was looking for evidence to support her belief that her husband had violated the marriage covenant, because in her worldview and among her friends, that covenant was important. She had endured much to keep the marriage, but upon rekindling an old flame, she was able to see a future without BM. She was working through the process of rationalizing and justifying her increasing inclination to leave.

IMO, it is unlikely that she had access to BM's phone. It seems clear that neither party trusted the other, and to me that means BM took steps to secure his phone from intrusions by his wife. She needed that spy pen because she had no other way to track his conversations.

All JMO, of course.
Oh I agree-ammo was a careless word choice on my part. I don’t think she was looking for money or anything for a court of law. I think she needed to justify it in her own head and heart. I think she married Barry for life, that covenant you spoke of, and for her it was important to respect it. I believe she needed Barry to have broken it in order for her to be able to move forward on her own.
 
  • #474
Any way you slice it....Suzanne was home on Mothers Day....alone, without her own family. No Barry, No daughters...I realize she never spent that day alone...because she was dead. But it would have been her, chatting with a boyfriend, who should have been honoring the wife of his own children that day...just like Barry should have been doing. This scenario is so far removed from what is normal...its insane.
Agree.
Dont leave me, I love you. Do you want me to shoot myself? My Angel, dont leave me!
Oh yeah, by the way girls are gone so for Mothers Day I am choosing to work and stay 3 hours away.
 
  • #475
I have a smart washer. I can tell you from looking at my app that my husband set a wash on a 60 degree hygiene wash, on a 1800 spin at 12.56 today. He's clearly washing towels, good man!
Does the smart dryer remind him to empty the lint trap? :)
 
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I truly believe the tranquilizer was used because BM didn't want SM to have the ability to fight back and leave marks on him. Everyone who follows true crime knows that police will take pics of any marks on a POIs body. Secondary to protecting him from defensive marks caused by SM, its a good way to move her without leaving cadaverine around. I think he killed her wherever her body is. Once that place is found, I think there will be alot more answers and lots of gaps filled in. Still praying her body is recovered and there is still evidence available.

It's heartbreaking to even think about this but I'm inclined to think he buried her while she was unconscious so there would be no chance of cadaverine being detected on anything he used in the process.
 
  • #478
Would they have run a telematics (?) search on Suzanne's vehicle? Be interesting to find out whether that was driven Saturday into Sunday at any point, whilst Barry's was parked up.

imo

Does anyone here know what year the available range rovers were? I would like to look into what info would be available if one of them was used instead of Barry's truck.
 
  • #479
Does anyone here know what year the available range rovers were? I would like to look into what info would be available if one of them was used instead of Barry's truck.
Have not seen that info with specific years.
IIRC there was one car almost sure to be pre-location monitoring, Suzanne's old RR, which daughter was using.
 
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  • #480
Hadn't thought of that. I just thought it was another way he tried to control her but that makes perfect sense.

May I add, a clinically depressed person is submissive. They have no energy. I'm sure that would have been his preference. Control would have been easier.

Her depression was treated successfully and she had energy and hope for the future. Imo.
 
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