Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #77 *ARREST*

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  • #701
Supposedly, the prosecution had 465 pieces of evidence they intended to show during the PH.... Did we even see/hear of 10 of those?

IMO, if this judge doesn't bind Barry over for trial, the prosecution only has themselves to blame. They were not even remotely aggressive about making their points. They let the defense run roughshod over them. The PH is "supposed" to be the prosecution's chance to lay out what they believe happened, but instead they handed their chance over to the Defense. They barely even objected. If this goes to trial and they have Jeff Lindsey doing all the talking, I hope he can manage to raise his voice above a whisper. At this point, they should offer Barry a plea because I don't see any chance of him doing any time for this following a trial. But if the defense is smart, they will decline a plea deal and take their chances at trial cuz he will probably get off.

I'm disgusted and disappointed, but most of all, I'm sad for Suzanne. Jmo
I do agree the prosecution needs to step up their game. This PH could put someone to sleep.
 
  • #702
which was at the house.
This piece really puzzles me I don't believe she would leave all those things in car even if she were at the house. She would be constantly running in and out to grab things out of her purse. I don't buy it. I think at some point they did go somewhere in the RR I think that was the vehicle that was used IMO.
 
  • #703
Wonder where Suzanne's car keys were at the time of her disappearance? Only cos her purse/bag was in the vehicle, I keep my keys in my bag, in my house, when not needing them, I know it probably makes no difference and everyone has different habits - I just wonder, considering defence is creating a picture that someone else may have stolen Suzanne and her life with partial prints 'inside' vehicle and no mention of outside, did said potential new person just happen to have a set of keys, considering no alarm was triggered etc.

Just moo and some thoughts :) (I don't buy defence thoughts on this, just thinking bout how they could reasonably, fully explain that)
 
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Updated list of things is have to ignore to believe Barry is innocent.

What was going on in that marriage.

Barry deleting texts that reflected poorly in the state of that marriage (he claimed Suzanne had never asked for a divorce, yet deleted a text from her in which she discussed it).

Barry’s lies on the state of their marriage.

The fact that Suzanne said she was afraid of him.

The psychological abuse, and the threats of suicide.

The fact that Suzanne dropped off the grid when Barry arrived home that afternoon (not a text, not a sighting, not a message; nothing).

The cell phone data that showing Suzanne’s phone went dark before Barry claims to have left the house.

The syringe cap in the dryer, the package with one missing, and the materials he admitted to throwing away.

The car and cell phone data that puts him outside an hour before he claims to have woken up, and in the vicinity of the bike.

The left turn that put him right in the area of the helmet, when he should have turned right (he claimed he saw a herd of elk, which don’t travel in herds that time of year).

The 5 trash dumps, the costume changes, and the boots being thrown away.

Barry forgetting what he threw away.

The fact he left early for a job without the proper equipment, worked 11 minutes, and then lied to the FBI about it.

Barry encouraging his employees to keep working well after Suzanne disappeared, despite knowing full well they couldn’t do that job with what he left them, and materials that were never delivered.

The lie about where he claimed he was when he received the call.

The changing stories he gave to law enforcement over the entirety of the investigation.

The near confession (immunity), the missing journal, the one plate dinner, the book turned to May 9, and the very clothes he was wearing hours before being in the dryer.

The scratches on his arms (3 potential fingernail marks on his upper arm).

The hilarious excuse for possessing tranquilizing darts and chemicals (shooting deer and cutting their antlers off in fricken April, which is all sorts of illegal).

The missing towel Suzanne was photographed with in her last “proof of life.”

What I miss?

I was thinking during the break, an organized list would include 4 major columns.

LIES/INCONSISTENCIES

BM's BEHAVIORS
before the disappearance
after the disappearance

COINCIDENCES

PHYSICAL EVIDENCE
 
  • #706
When did that come in to the Prelim, if you remember? I'm sure the Judge knows about it, but did we hear about it at the Prelim?



Me too. I just keep telling myself that the amount that can be presented at trial could be a real avalanche. Right now, it's just about what led LE and the DA to ask for an arrest and then to bind Barry over for trial.

@MassGuy I just remembered that despite Barry sawing off antlers of defenseless, drugged deer, no sawed off antlers at the house.

And in re the furniture of the house and where it went: most of the furniture we see in the living room came with the house (per earlier Zillow photos). So no need to bring that up and obviously, the storage unit was not mentioned at the Prelim.

There are so many things that would come up at trial (the FBI "plant" at the condo complex, Barry's plans to flee, the bulk of SO's statements and also the friend whose name starts with H, also CC, and whatever SD and her BF knew (her BD inserted himself in the case very early). SD is currently on the jail list of approved visitors for Barry...

Who are SD and BD?
 
  • #707
Many cases are like you describe what people sometimes call slam dunks. This case never ever was. If you strip out all the social media speculation and pseudo psychoanalysis there was very little known and some big surprises that no one speculated about. There was a reason the original DA did not press charges... very little of what prosecution had they had a very long time ago. The new DA is taking a risk. If it goes to trial and the state does not succeed Barry goes free. I will be alittle surprised if the judge sends this to trial with the entire laundry list of charges plus aggravation and Murder 1. But then there is a trial and a do-over for prosecution to button things up better.

I wasn't following back then, wasn't there still much important evidence being discovered just before the former D.A. left, such as the identity of JL and all that ensued with it? MOO
 
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Our home has heavy wooden doors as I'm sure that the Morphew's $1.6M home also had. Some kind of extreme force caused it to split. Of course, that's just my opinion without seeing the door or having any additional information.

JMO.

It's not an exterior door that was damaged, I don't think. (I feel confident LE would have noticed such as "attempted unlawful entry".)

As I understood it, it was the interior door to the master bedroom that was broken in, with damage to either the door itself or to the jamb.

MOO
 
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  • #711
Our home has heavy wooden doors as I'm sure that the Morphew's $1.6M home also had. Some kind of extreme force caused it to split. Of course, that's just my opinion without seeing the door or having any additional information.

JMO.


MOO - Just thinking out loud here…
In LS’s Live recap last night, she mentioned that one of the items found in the fireplace was a piece of wood with a black lacquer veener-type finish. It definitely sounded misplaced. She also noted that the firewood next to the fireplace had not been disturbed.

I wonder how extensive the damage may have been to the door frame and if this piece of wood wasn’t from the door trim? However, I then think if a portion had been busted off with the impact of a door being forced open, when would BM have had time to repair it without it being so glaringly obvious. So it’s likely not from the splintered door frame.

Nonetheless, I found this tidbit of information interesting and also wondered if the piece of wood didn’t come from sort of broken furniture that could have been used in self defense or as part of an assault weapon.
 
  • #712
A loving mother has mysteriously out of character not communicated with her 2 daughters she gave birth to and dissappeared off of the face of the earth, and 25,000 times out of 25,001 times it is the usual suspect. And when questioned about his whereabouts he is shown to change his story and his alibi does not hold water.Motive dinero.

And when those crying girls plead with a jury, please don’t send our daddy to prison. He didn’t do it. He’d never do it. Why are you wanting to hurt us even more?

It’s going to take a team of strong jurors to separate emotion from the evidence.
 
  • #713
Supposedly, the prosecution had 465 pieces of evidence they intended to show during the PH.... Did we even see/hear of 10 of those?

IMO, if this judge doesn't bind Barry over for trial, the prosecution only has themselves to blame. They were not even remotely aggressive about making their points. They let the defense run roughshod over them. The PH is "supposed" to be the prosecution's chance to lay out what they believe happened, but instead they handed their chance over to the Defense. They barely even objected. If this goes to trial and they have Jeff Lindsey doing all the talking, I hope he can manage to raise his voice above a whisper. At this point, they should offer Barry a plea because I don't see any chance of him doing any time for this following a trial. But if the defense is smart, they will decline a plea deal and take their chances at trial cuz he will probably get off.

I'm disgusted and disappointed, but most of all, I'm sad for Suzanne. Jmo

I’m with you. Very disappointed in today. I really hope the prosecution has a final bombshell to drop. IMO they need it.
 
  • #714
Supposedly, the prosecution had 465 pieces of evidence they intended to show during the PH.... Did we even see/hear of 10 of those?

IMO, if this judge doesn't bind Barry over for trial, the prosecution only has themselves to blame. They were not even remotely aggressive about making their points. They let the defense run roughshod over them. The PH is "supposed" to be the prosecution's chance to lay out what they believe happened, but instead they handed their chance over to the Defense. They barely even objected. If this goes to trial and they have Jeff Lindsey doing all the talking, I hope he can manage to raise his voice above a whisper. At this point, they should offer Barry a plea because I don't see any chance of him doing any time for this following a trial. But if the defense is smart, they will decline a plea deal and take their chances at trial cuz he will probably get off.

I'm disgusted and disappointed, but most of all, I'm sad for Suzanne. Jmo
I do agree the prosecution needs to step up their game. This PH could put someone to sleep.
That was the defense excuse after the fact. People with nothing to hide do not ask for immunity.
But one of our attorneys, Alethea I think, stated he could have been worried about taxes or financial questions and something to do with why he wanted immunity if his life was to be an open book. My words are not her exact quote. Must be guilty of something for sure!
 
  • #715
I'm not discouraged at all. The judge has also read that 129 page AA, so he already knows a lot.

I had much higher expectations of all sorts of BAM! moments, but really, they just need to present enough to send it to trial. I think that is more than covered.

Certainly a few BAMs! in there.
 
  • #716
Wonder where Suzanne's car keys were at the time of her disappearance? Only cos her purse/bag was in the vehicle, I keep my keys in my bag, in my house, when not needing them, I know it probably makes no difference and everyone has different habits - I just wonder, considering defence is creating a picture that someone else may have stolen Suzanne and her life with partial prints 'inside' vehicle and no mention of outside, did said potential new person just happen to have a set of keys, considering no alarm was triggered etc.

Just moo and some thoughts :) (I don't buy defence thoughts on this, just thinking bout how they could reasonably, fully explain that)

If someone abducted her and left partial prints in the car, I would think they RR and money would be gone, too. There is no evidence that she left the house. If someone broke into her house and killed her, they would have left her there in the house. No need to remove body; unless you lived there. Also, if she was abducted in her home. Murdered outside the home. I would think that she would have been found by now. Why hide her body?? The abduction theory makes zero sense to me. JMO
edited post because of grammar
 
  • #717
When did that come in to the Prelim, if you remember? I'm sure the Judge knows about it, but did we hear about it at the Prelim?



Me too. I just keep telling myself that the amount that can be presented at trial could be a real avalanche. Right now, it's just about what led LE and the DA to ask for an arrest and then to bind Barry over for trial.

@MassGuy I just remembered that despite Barry sawing off antlers of defenseless, drugged deer, no sawed off antlers at the house.

And in re the furniture of the house and where it went: most of the furniture we see in the living room came with the house (per earlier Zillow photos). So no need to bring that up and obviously, the storage unit was not mentioned at the Prelim.

There are so many things that would come up at trial (the FBI "plant" at the condo complex, Barry's plans to flee, the bulk of SO's statements and also the friend whose name starts with H, also CC, and whatever SD and her BF knew (her BD inserted himself in the case very early). SD is currently on the jail list of approved visitors for Barry...
yes, we heard about him listening to the FF episode of the missing biker during the first hearings.
 
  • #718
Jennifer Hicks

@JenniferCHicks

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Court is back in session for the Barry Morphew preliminary hearing, and the prosecution is continuing its cross-examination of CBI Agent Joseph Cahill.
 
  • #719
Do we have a timeline of Barry's wardrobe changes that day? I meant to ask that yesterday.
I see Barry's changes following Conan's pattern...
 

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Updated list of things is have to ignore to believe Barry is innocent.

What was going on in that marriage.

Barry deleting texts that reflected poorly in the state of that marriage (he claimed Suzanne had never asked for a divorce, yet deleted a text from her in which she discussed it).

Barry’s lies on the state of their marriage.

The fact that Suzanne said she was afraid of him.

The psychological abuse, and the threats of suicide.

The fact that Suzanne dropped off the grid when Barry arrived home that afternoon (not a text, not a sighting, not a message; nothing).

The cell phone data that showing Suzanne’s phone went dark before Barry claims to have left the house.

The syringe cap in the dryer, the package with one missing, and the materials he admitted to throwing away.

The car and cell phone data that puts him outside an hour before he claims to have woken up, and in the vicinity of the bike.

The left turn that put him right in the area of the helmet, when he should have turned right (he claimed he saw a herd of elk, which don’t travel in herds that time of year).

The 5 trash dumps, the costume changes, and the boots being thrown away.

Barry forgetting what he threw away.

The fact he left early for a job without the proper equipment, worked 11 minutes, and then lied to the FBI about it.

Barry encouraging his employees to keep working well after Suzanne disappeared, despite knowing full well they couldn’t do that job with what he left them, and materials that were never delivered.

The lie about where he claimed he was when he received the call.

The changing stories he gave to law enforcement over the entirety of the investigation.

The near confession (immunity), the missing journal, the one plate dinner, the book turned to May 9, and the very clothes he was wearing hours before being in the dryer.

The scratches on his arms (3 potential fingernail marks on his upper arm).

The hilarious excuse for possessing tranquilizing darts and chemicals (shooting deer and cutting their antlers off in fricken April, which is all sorts of illegal).

The missing towel Suzanne was photographed with in her last “proof of life.”

What I miss?
The activity of his truck -- doors and engine -- during the evening and night while BM claimed to be eating steak, having sex, and sleeping.
 
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