Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #79 *ARREST*

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  • #841
When I heard BM mention “CBD Tim” I nearly laughed, it sounded so cartoonish.

It reminded me of the comic books that are passed out to kids by the school resource cop (they called it the DARE program when I was in school, not sure if Drug Abuse Resistance Education is still a thing)

“Now kids, don’t talk to CBD Tim or Weed Wally……”
Now that’s hilarious! Definitely remember that program.
 
  • #842
Hmmm….maybe. If the defence is going to rely on the daughters to show SM lied about her whereabouts, the prosecution will question them about any abuse they may have been witness to. If they lie, they risk being exposed, especially if they confided in anyone outside the home. The defence may posit that SM lied to SO about the abuse, but what if one of the daughters confided in a boyfriend that she herself did in fact counsel her mother to seek a restraining order?

From my perspective, I don’t see the defence overcoming the circumstantial evidence against BM. The fact that SM lied to conceal an affair is well, understandable. His explanations of what she was wearing, what he was doing with her and all the other inconsistencies will be enough for anyone with firing brain cells to determine he’s lying through his teeth. Veneered teeth, at that! I believe the real “meat and potatoes” will be served up at trial. JMHO

The daughters’ phones were taken into evidence, so any discussion they may have had between themselves, or with others, about the state of their parents’ marriage may be documented.
 
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Is he truly that cheap? Are there bootprints somewhere out there that will match his? moo
Yeah, I think he was worried about prints somewhere. That’s something he would know from his true crime podcasts (I’m still blown away by that).
 
  • #845
I have ID Discovery on, and just heard a great quote from a detective:

“A provable lie is the next best thing to a confession.”

How about a couple dozen of them?
 
  • #846
I have ID Discovery on, and just heard a great quote from a detective:

“A provable lie is the next best thing to a confession.”

How about a couple dozen of them?

That’s a great quote. Poor Barry. Had to lie or “can’t recall” 95+ times. All because that mean Agent Grusing wouldn’t promise him immunity. :D

Barry must have missed the crime podcast that would tell him that the murderer doesn’t get the immunity.
 
  • #847
So JL texted her once on May 11, 2020 and Suzanne did not respond. Allegedly that was his last text to her.

Doesn’t it seem odd that after an 18 month relationship he wouldn’t text her again, after receiving no response? MOO
It does make you wonder the depth of his feelings and emotions for her when he doesn't follow up communications with her when they suddenly stop.


If we didn't know any better we would be side eyeing him deeply.

I am glad for something though, when Suzanne was murdered she was oblivious to the lack of depth and strength of the man she fantasised about running away with.


moo
 
  • #848
It does make you wonder the depth of his feelings and emotions for her when he doesn't follow up communications with her when they suddenly stop.


If we didn't know any better we would be side eyeing him deeply.

I am glad for something though, when Suzanne was murdered she was oblivious to the lack of depth and strength of the man she fantasised about running away with.


moo
He knew BM had supicions at the very least. Any lover would minimize the damage by not texting if the phone seemed to be in the wrong hands. He thought "she'll call me when the coast is clear." Just a guess.
 
  • #849
I thought it was interesting that Mike asked Linda about the "death stare" that Barry gave her during the pre-lim. She told him that she just stared right back. Can you imagine staring down the very person who has your life in their hands and the entire court system on their side!? Just how entitled and emboldened is this man? I also love to imagine that the thought of her being a female is enough to send him into one of his rages from time to time. In his cell, pacing the tiny perimeter, of course.

*Vanessa (from Unmasked) and Jewels of Thought (also in the courtroom for the pre-lim) both said that Barry stared them down like that, too. Vanessa said she had to finally look away because she felt so uncomfortable, and Jewels said basically the same. She said she gave Vanessa her chair in the courtroom on the final day of the pre-lim (and she went to the fairgrounds), because she honestly felt uneasy about going back in there and sitting in the room with him. The vibe that both women picked up from BM was described as "intense" and "scary."
 
  • #850
I thought it was interesting that Mike asked Linda about the "death stare" that Barry gave her during the pre-lim. She told him that she just stared right back. Can you imagine staring down the very person who has your life in their hands and the entire court system on their side!? Just how entitled and emboldened is this man? I also love to imagine that the thought of her being a female is enough to send him into one of his rages from time to time. In his cell, pacing the tiny perimeter, of course.

*Vanessa (from Unmasked) and Jewels of Thought (also in the courtroom for the pre-lim) both said that Barry stared them down like that, too. Vanessa said she had to finally look away because she felt so uncomfortable, and Jewels said basically the same. She said she gave Vanessa her chair in the courtroom on the final day of the pre-lim (and she went to the fairgrounds), because she honestly felt uneasy about going back in there and sitting in the room with him. The vibe that both women picked up from BM was described as "intense" and "scary."


I very much hope the judge noticed and saw how Barry was behaving towards all these women.
 
  • #851
I am STUNNED by the number of people who are taking Barry's "clipped her" comment at face value.

Clearly they have been blessed to never have been a victim of domestic abuse or had a close friend or family member who was/is.

If he openly admitted to clipping her on one occasion, he beat the hell out of her on others. Abusers only admit to little things, to try to deflect the big things. From the state of the MBR door frame, he physically assaulted her on more than one occasion.

Controlled abusers are the worst, they're experts at not leaving marks and deflecting.

Barry is VERY controlled.

We have to start talking about domestic abuse openly. It's not always about violence. Honestly, the gaslighting and mental abuse are way more damaging than physical abuse.
Yes the image I see when saying clipped her nose was like a miscued back hand might 'just' clip her nose.
HARD
:(

moo
 
  • #852
I do wonder if Suzanne was JL's first or only girlfriend.
 
  • #853
I do wonder if Suzanne was JL's first or only girlfriend.
I have no idea, but I have been wondering whether JL was Suzanne's first? I think its best we don't speculate on either. There is enough in the mix as it is.
 
  • #854
I think she had an affair because BM had been unfaithful for years. She just decided to have one herself…what’s good for the goose…

I have speculated if it was a combination of this and constant unfounded accusations from BM of SM behaving inappropriately with other men… well, if you already think I am…
moo
 
  • #855
If the cap fits . . .
 
  • #856
He knew BM had supicions at the very least. Any lover would minimize the damage by not texting if the phone seemed to be in the wrong hands. He thought "she'll call me when the coast is clear." Just a guess.

Maybe he thought that. Or maybe he’s just a garden-variety coward. But he didn’t kill Suzanne. Mostly he’s irrelevant, aside from his presence in Suzanne’s life providing one of the motives for Barry to commit homicide.
 
  • #857
I’ve stopped asking the “why” of Suzanne’s affair. It’s counterproductive. I understand that we all want to like Suzanne and we want to justify her choice. Suzanne may not have been who we thought she was, or what drew us to this case. Barry cannot murder her because of her choices. When the defense highlights her behavior that includes lying and sneaking around, it is designed to deflect from the facts of what happened to Suzanne. Barry’s movements and Suzanne’s disappearance are absolutely connected and there is no alternative explanation. We can get lost in Suzanne’s choices and Barry can walk.
 
  • #858
He knew BM had supicions at the very least. Any lover would minimize the damage by not texting if the phone seemed to be in the wrong hands. He thought "she'll call me when the coast is clear." Just a guess.
It would be interesting to see JL’s computer search history after he learned that Suzanne was missing. Wonder if he searched for every news story? Or completely avoided anything regarding Suzanne.
 
  • #859
Yes - precisely. Thank you so much for capturing my aspiration. I'm not there yet. But I shouldn't be so angry at JL - he didn't kill Suzanne and I wouldn't even be talking about him if he hadn't gotten involved (unwittingly) in a rare femicide event.



I think we learn from the webcam of MH (the young man) that Suzanne is a relative beginner. That being said, it's possible she had biking shoes - but that's never been mentioned (when I was her age, I gave up on bicycle shoes and clips, due to the higher risk of taking a bad fall without being able to disengage my foot). She wasn't doing the strenuous mountain paths near her (MH actually mentions the park she goes to, I'll try find it on a map). She was probably on a paved trail and not trying to set any speed records.
That is a factor for sure....Suzanne was basically a novice. I would expect her bike rides to be controlled and confined to safe terrain. I have tried to get a map which shows where both the helmet and bicycle were located...in order to try to mimick where an "abductor" would need to navigate in order to dispose of both....One would expect it to be the bike first, then the helmet....but I wonder what direction on the map that would look like? That is what Barry would have us believe happened.
 
  • #860
It would be interesting to see JL’s computer search history after he learned that Suzanne was missing. Wonder if he searched for every news story? Or completely avoided anything regarding Suzanne.
I wonder if JL's wife noticed a change in his behavior after Suzanne was reported missing? Was he home more often? More attentive to her and their children? Or was he basically the same?
 
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